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I feel in love with SD as much as I did with her dad. She was almost 8 at the time. She's almost 13 now. She is my only "child." I had ever intention to just be like an aunt for her but she pushed me into a mom role with her. Even called me mom this whole time, despite my original hesitation over it. She's with us 50%. Bio mom and step dad live nearby. Neither of her bio parents really parented her the way she needed when she was young and the step dad affirmatively hates kids and won't be bothered with her. Mom and DH weren't neglectful but just...absent and kind of not engaged when around and also...so permissive that SD was kind of feral when I met her. She blossomed under my more structured parenting and we've been madly close for all these years. Until now. At 13, she loves having checked out parents cuz...who wouldn't at that age. They think they know what's best and don't want to be "controlled." Hurts like hell to have her look me in the eye and throw in my face that I'm not "her mom" no matter how much I "pretend" I am. That she only "needs" 2 parents and I need to leave her alone. More importantly than me being hurt is not knowing if I should listen to her and just convert into being a "fun Aunt" and leave the parenting to 2 people who aren't interested in doing it or if I should just handle it like I would if I WERE her bio mom, understand that its developmentally normal for her to push away, and just continue to parent her in whatever way she needs. very, very complicated.
Serious question, why did you marry a man who is not a good parent? I sincerely want to know.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No and have no interest in them. They treated their Dad horribly as teens per their mom's wishes. When they were young, we tried hard. But, after years of doing things, like sending clothing (brands, styles, colors they wanted) and other stuff and never once getting it acknowledged (just it arrived, didn't even have to be a thank you), I gave up and stopped trying. They only call if they want something, usually money which Dad will no longer give. If the situation were different, I'd love them and would do a lot for the one who has a child. We have a child and I cannot imagine raising them to hate the other parent and discouraging a relationship.
Why wasn't their father more involved beyond sending clothes and material things? Did he spend time with them? Show up at all their functions? Drive them to school? Participate in their daily and care and life?
If not, it's easy to understand their resentment.
Mom moved them cross country and Dad could not follow. Dad at one point tried to move there and daughter pitched a fit saying mom would be upset. He would buy plane tickets and she would refuse to put them on the plane. The courts would just say send the kids and give dad more visitation and make her pay more costs but she refused. Courts would not do anything. Dad did as much as he could. Mom cheated, left, took the kids and blamed Dad saying he cheated and was a deadbeat (he never was) and was horrible to him. Kids copied behavior to get mom's approval. Its weird as she's very nice to us now and frequently texts to see how he, we, our child or his mom is (whom she treated horribly). His daughter sends random emails too. He wishes they would stop.
She moved without permission? He was fully involved in the kids' lives and she just up and left?
Or was he not that involved and then OK'd the move, expecting somehow that he could be a Disneyland parent here and there and is now upset he doesn't get full respect even though he wasn't a full parent?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have 4 children. 2 I carried and 2 I did not. I came into their lives when they were 2 and 5.
DH and I have 4 children. We love them all. Each one has different needs and we try very hard to meet those needs.
We are financially responsible for all 4 kids. When we sit down to do the budgets for school, activities, clothes, trips, it's a lot of give and take. The pie is only so big and has to be split 4 ways. Both DH and I work to make the household run and give the kids what the need/want.
The 2 children that I did not carry talk with me daily about whats going on in their lives, are amazing siblings to the other 3 kids, and contribute to the household. Either parent can discipline any of the 4 children. All kids know that what one parent says goes for the other parent. I suspect it helps a lot that DH and I have very similar parenting/discipline philosophies.
I think this is important and has been echoed in a few other posts.
I love my skids in the sense that I want what's best for them and will support them in all they do. I like everything about them...they're wonderful kids. However, we only live five minutes from their mother and both BM and DH are fully available to the kids at all times so I had no "need" to fill in that respect. As someone else suggested, I am more like an "aunt" to them. It didn't help that DH never supported me in a parenting role in our household. When I tried to do things like ask them to clean up after themselves from lunch or pick up their towels off the bathroom floor, DH would get mad at me. He felt they were guests in our home and shouldn't have chores. When I asked him to keep them out of my room b/c I didn't want them digging through my drawers taking my stuff, he told me "it's what kids do" and I would have to deal with it. I'm given no thought on the holidays - no cards, no presents even though I bend over backwards to help DH shop for them every year. I don't harbor any ill will toward them or DH for any of this, I just adjusted my expectations, took on a stand offish role, and basically just became their friend and supporter in life. Looking back, I regret not trying to build my own relationship with them outside of DH. Because now I worry about what will happen when DH is gone and he's not there to facilitate their visits. Will they ever reach out ot me? Will they respond if I reach out to them? Will they maintain a relationship with their half siblings who absolutely adore them? We'll see.
Anonymous wrote:I feel in love with SD as much as I did with her dad. She was almost 8 at the time. She's almost 13 now. She is my only "child." I had ever intention to just be like an aunt for her but she pushed me into a mom role with her. Even called me mom this whole time, despite my original hesitation over it. She's with us 50%. Bio mom and step dad live nearby. Neither of her bio parents really parented her the way she needed when she was young and the step dad affirmatively hates kids and won't be bothered with her. Mom and DH weren't neglectful but just...absent and kind of not engaged when around and also...so permissive that SD was kind of feral when I met her. She blossomed under my more structured parenting and we've been madly close for all these years. Until now. At 13, she loves having checked out parents cuz...who wouldn't at that age. They think they know what's best and don't want to be "controlled." Hurts like hell to have her look me in the eye and throw in my face that I'm not "her mom" no matter how much I "pretend" I am. That she only "needs" 2 parents and I need to leave her alone. More importantly than me being hurt is not knowing if I should listen to her and just convert into being a "fun Aunt" and leave the parenting to 2 people who aren't interested in doing it or if I should just handle it like I would if I WERE her bio mom, understand that its developmentally normal for her to push away, and just continue to parent her in whatever way she needs. very, very complicated.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My stepson was really young - like 2 - when he started coming around more often (every other weekend). Very sticky situation that I won't go into depth over. I care about him enough to not let anything bad happen to him, but I don't love him like my own children. I don't actually like his personality very much either, but he's just a kid, so it is what it is. All kids have their quirks.
Wow, does he dad know you feel this way? Poor kid. I'm sure he picks up on your bad vibes.
Anonymous wrote:I have 4 children. 2 I carried and 2 I did not. I came into their lives when they were 2 and 5.
DH and I have 4 children. We love them all. Each one has different needs and we try very hard to meet those needs.
We are financially responsible for all 4 kids. When we sit down to do the budgets for school, activities, clothes, trips, it's a lot of give and take. The pie is only so big and has to be split 4 ways. Both DH and I work to make the household run and give the kids what the need/want.
The 2 children that I did not carry talk with me daily about whats going on in their lives, are amazing siblings to the other 3 kids, and contribute to the household. Either parent can discipline any of the 4 children. All kids know that what one parent says goes for the other parent. I suspect it helps a lot that DH and I have very similar parenting/discipline philosophies.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No and have no interest in them. They treated their Dad horribly as teens per their mom's wishes. When they were young, we tried hard. But, after years of doing things, like sending clothing (brands, styles, colors they wanted) and other stuff and never once getting it acknowledged (just it arrived, didn't even have to be a thank you), I gave up and stopped trying. They only call if they want something, usually money which Dad will no longer give. If the situation were different, I'd love them and would do a lot for the one who has a child. We have a child and I cannot imagine raising them to hate the other parent and discouraging a relationship.
Why wasn't their father more involved beyond sending clothes and material things? Did he spend time with them? Show up at all their functions? Drive them to school? Participate in their daily and care and life?
If not, it's easy to understand their resentment.
Mom moved them cross country and Dad could not follow. Dad at one point tried to move there and daughter pitched a fit saying mom would be upset. He would buy plane tickets and she would refuse to put them on the plane. The courts would just say send the kids and give dad more visitation and make her pay more costs but she refused. Courts would not do anything. Dad did as much as he could. Mom cheated, left, took the kids and blamed Dad saying he cheated and was a deadbeat (he never was) and was horrible to him. Kids copied behavior to get mom's approval. Its weird as she's very nice to us now and frequently texts to see how he, we, our child or his mom is (whom she treated horribly). His daughter sends random emails too. He wishes they would stop.
She moved without permission? He was fully involved in the kids' lives and she just up and left?
Or was he not that involved and then OK'd the move, expecting somehow that he could be a Disneyland parent here and there and is now upset he doesn't get full respect even though he wasn't a full parent?
Yes to this. Nobody would ever "move" my children across the country without a nuclear war coming out of my end. Sounds like dear old dad wasn't interested. Honestly, the ex doesn't even need to spread any lies about him to his kids to get them to hate him, he did a fine job all on his own.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No and have no interest in them. They treated their Dad horribly as teens per their mom's wishes. When they were young, we tried hard. But, after years of doing things, like sending clothing (brands, styles, colors they wanted) and other stuff and never once getting it acknowledged (just it arrived, didn't even have to be a thank you), I gave up and stopped trying. They only call if they want something, usually money which Dad will no longer give. If the situation were different, I'd love them and would do a lot for the one who has a child. We have a child and I cannot imagine raising them to hate the other parent and discouraging a relationship.
Why wasn't their father more involved beyond sending clothes and material things? Did he spend time with them? Show up at all their functions? Drive them to school? Participate in their daily and care and life?
If not, it's easy to understand their resentment.
Mom moved them cross country and Dad could not follow. Dad at one point tried to move there and daughter pitched a fit saying mom would be upset. He would buy plane tickets and she would refuse to put them on the plane. The courts would just say send the kids and give dad more visitation and make her pay more costs but she refused. Courts would not do anything. Dad did as much as he could. Mom cheated, left, took the kids and blamed Dad saying he cheated and was a deadbeat (he never was) and was horrible to him. Kids copied behavior to get mom's approval. Its weird as she's very nice to us now and frequently texts to see how he, we, our child or his mom is (whom she treated horribly). His daughter sends random emails too. He wishes they would stop.
She moved without permission? He was fully involved in the kids' lives and she just up and left?
Or was he not that involved and then OK'd the move, expecting somehow that he could be a Disneyland parent here and there and is now upset he doesn't get full respect even though he wasn't a full parent?
Anonymous wrote:I have 4 children. 2 I carried and 2 I did not. I came into their lives when they were 2 and 5.
DH and I have 4 children. We love them all. Each one has different needs and we try very hard to meet those needs.
We are financially responsible for all 4 kids. When we sit down to do the budgets for school, activities, clothes, trips, it's a lot of give and take. The pie is only so big and has to be split 4 ways. Both DH and I work to make the household run and give the kids what the need/want.
The 2 children that I did not carry talk with me daily about whats going on in their lives, are amazing siblings to the other 3 kids, and contribute to the household. Either parent can discipline any of the 4 children. All kids know that what one parent says goes for the other parent. I suspect it helps a lot that DH and I have very similar parenting/discipline philosophies.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No and have no interest in them. They treated their Dad horribly as teens per their mom's wishes. When they were young, we tried hard. But, after years of doing things, like sending clothing (brands, styles, colors they wanted) and other stuff and never once getting it acknowledged (just it arrived, didn't even have to be a thank you), I gave up and stopped trying. They only call if they want something, usually money which Dad will no longer give. If the situation were different, I'd love them and would do a lot for the one who has a child. We have a child and I cannot imagine raising them to hate the other parent and discouraging a relationship.
Why wasn't their father more involved beyond sending clothes and material things? Did he spend time with them? Show up at all their functions? Drive them to school? Participate in their daily and care and life?
If not, it's easy to understand their resentment.
Mom moved them cross country and Dad could not follow. Dad at one point tried to move there and daughter pitched a fit saying mom would be upset. He would buy plane tickets and she would refuse to put them on the plane. The courts would just say send the kids and give dad more visitation and make her pay more costs but she refused. Courts would not do anything. Dad did as much as he could. Mom cheated, left, took the kids and blamed Dad saying he cheated and was a deadbeat (he never was) and was horrible to him. Kids copied behavior to get mom's approval. Its weird as she's very nice to us now and frequently texts to see how he, we, our child or his mom is (whom she treated horribly). His daughter sends random emails too. He wishes they would stop.
She moved without permission? He was fully involved in the kids' lives and she just up and left?
Or was he not that involved and then OK'd the move, expecting somehow that he could be a Disneyland parent here and there and is now upset he doesn't get full respect even though he wasn't a full parent?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No and have no interest in them. They treated their Dad horribly as teens per their mom's wishes. When they were young, we tried hard. But, after years of doing things, like sending clothing (brands, styles, colors they wanted) and other stuff and never once getting it acknowledged (just it arrived, didn't even have to be a thank you), I gave up and stopped trying. They only call if they want something, usually money which Dad will no longer give. If the situation were different, I'd love them and would do a lot for the one who has a child. We have a child and I cannot imagine raising them to hate the other parent and discouraging a relationship.
Why wasn't their father more involved beyond sending clothes and material things? Did he spend time with them? Show up at all their functions? Drive them to school? Participate in their daily and care and life?
If not, it's easy to understand their resentment.
Mom moved them cross country and Dad could not follow. Dad at one point tried to move there and daughter pitched a fit saying mom would be upset. He would buy plane tickets and she would refuse to put them on the plane. The courts would just say send the kids and give dad more visitation and make her pay more costs but she refused. Courts would not do anything. Dad did as much as he could. Mom cheated, left, took the kids and blamed Dad saying he cheated and was a deadbeat (he never was) and was horrible to him. Kids copied behavior to get mom's approval. Its weird as she's very nice to us now and frequently texts to see how he, we, our child or his mom is (whom she treated horribly). His daughter sends random emails too. He wishes they would stop.