Anonymous
Post 08/16/2017 16:05     Subject: What careers/jobs will always be stable throughout a woman's life?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm in my early thirties in a dead end field and going back to school for nursing next year. Absolutely buzzy feeling to know my earning power will increase exponentially and predictably in this field, especially with additional education.


What the heck are you talking about?
Nursing is a fine career for many reasons but your salary will not exponentially increase with experience or even with more education. Many nurses take a pay cut if they go back to school for a master's degree.
You will start around $50K in the DC area and in 3 years you may make $75K. In 10-20 years you may make $90K. If you become a nurse practitioner you may make $80-120K.
That's it.
Nursing is awesome and flexible and has a lot going for it. But exponential income increases? NO.

I find that people on this board ALWAYS over estimate what nurses earn.

signed,
RN with 18 years experience in a ton of different fields including as an NP, a nurse recruiter, etc.


+1

- RN with 10 years experience and a MSN who works at the bedside because it's better for finances and work/life balance


If the PP worked for minimum wage at year 0, was a secretary at year 3, nurse at year 6 her salary would grow like this.....

year - salary
0 - 25,000
3 - 37,000
6 - 50,000
9 - 75,000
15 - 90,000

Which is an exponential growth of 9% per year for 15 years at which time she would need to be a NP to continue the exponential growth.

- Math geek
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2017 16:03     Subject: What careers/jobs will always be stable throughout a woman's life?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm in my early thirties in a dead end field and going back to school for nursing next year. Absolutely buzzy feeling to know my earning power will increase exponentially and predictably in this field, especially with additional education.


What the heck are you talking about?
Nursing is a fine career for many reasons but your salary will not exponentially increase with experience or even with more education. Many nurses take a pay cut if they go back to school for a master's degree.
You will start around $50K in the DC area and in 3 years you may make $75K. In 10-20 years you may make $90K. If you become a nurse practitioner you may make $80-120K.
That's it.
Nursing is awesome and flexible and has a lot going for it. But exponential income increases? NO.

I find that people on this board ALWAYS over estimate what nurses earn.

signed,
RN with 18 years experience in a ton of different fields including as an NP, a nurse recruiter, etc.


+1

- RN with 10 years experience and a MSN who works at the bedside because it's better for finances and work/life balance


I know NPs in the DC area making 120 k with less than 10 years experience. No you aren't going to make 300k, but acting like 120 is unheard of isn't true. Perhaps the wo of you built your careers wrong.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2017 15:54     Subject: What careers/jobs will always be stable throughout a woman's life?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm in my early thirties in a dead end field and going back to school for nursing next year. Absolutely buzzy feeling to know my earning power will increase exponentially and predictably in this field, especially with additional education.


What the heck are you talking about?
Nursing is a fine career for many reasons but your salary will not exponentially increase with experience or even with more education. Many nurses take a pay cut if they go back to school for a master's degree.
You will start around $50K in the DC area and in 3 years you may make $75K. In 10-20 years you may make $90K. If you become a nurse practitioner you may make $80-120K.
That's it.
Nursing is awesome and flexible and has a lot going for it. But exponential income increases? NO.

I find that people on this board ALWAYS over estimate what nurses earn.

signed,
RN with 18 years experience in a ton of different fields including as an NP, a nurse recruiter, etc.



Perhaps your jumping around is why you haven't seen a significant shift in pay. " Old" nurses such as yourself will probably never see the 100K mark new grad NPs will definately get paid that.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2017 15:53     Subject: Re:What careers/jobs will always be stable throughout a woman's life?
Watch these PBS videos and you will understand why it's not a sexist question at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTjg7ECgSPI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as6bS-7ZlgQ
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2017 15:49     Subject: What careers/jobs will always be stable throughout a woman's life?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No one sees this thread as pretty sexist and reactionary? Women have always been consigned the roles of teacher or nurse, the most acceptable profession for college-educated women since the 1940s. Has nothing really changed?


Well, these are union jobs. The question was about job stability, not breaking the glass ceiling.


What I'm saying is that it's sad that things have not evolved so that women have more career choices with stability. Nothing wrong with nursing or teaching, but it's 2017. We should be able to be IT professionals, lawyers, scientists, etc. with some sort of work-life, non-ageist work balance by now.

--A 50-something journalist with a fairly stable job...considering the implosion of a lot of the profession

again, the question was about what jobs are the most stable. No one is saying that women can't/shouldn't be lawyers, IT professionals, scientists, etc. but that a woman (or man, for that matter) who wants stability, limited to no chance of automation, etc...the aforementioned careers are their best option. I'm not sure why that is so hard to understand.

I'm a scientists myself and love my career, but again, for someone - whether man or woman - whose main criteria is stability, I'm not going to recommend it.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2017 15:42     Subject: What careers/jobs will always be stable throughout a woman's life?
What about a pharmacist? I was always under the impression that this was a solid job for anyone. It needs a lot of education, but then you start out at a very high salary. (But then it basically stays there, unless you move into management.)
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2017 15:37     Subject: What careers/jobs will always be stable throughout a woman's life?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm in my early thirties in a dead end field and going back to school for nursing next year. Absolutely buzzy feeling to know my earning power will increase exponentially and predictably in this field, especially with additional education.


What the heck are you talking about?
Nursing is a fine career for many reasons but your salary will not exponentially increase with experience or even with more education. Many nurses take a pay cut if they go back to school for a master's degree.
You will start around $50K in the DC area and in 3 years you may make $75K. In 10-20 years you may make $90K. If you become a nurse practitioner you may make $80-120K.
That's it.
Nursing is awesome and flexible and has a lot going for it. But exponential income increases? NO.

I find that people on this board ALWAYS over estimate what nurses earn.

signed,
RN with 18 years experience in a ton of different fields including as an NP, a nurse recruiter, etc.


+1

- RN with 10 years experience and a MSN who works at the bedside because it's better for finances and work/life balance
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2017 15:23     Subject: What careers/jobs will always be stable throughout a woman's life?
Anonymous wrote:I'm in my early thirties in a dead end field and going back to school for nursing next year. Absolutely buzzy feeling to know my earning power will increase exponentially and predictably in this field, especially with additional education.


What the heck are you talking about?
Nursing is a fine career for many reasons but your salary will not exponentially increase with experience or even with more education. Many nurses take a pay cut if they go back to school for a master's degree.
You will start around $50K in the DC area and in 3 years you may make $75K. In 10-20 years you may make $90K. If you become a nurse practitioner you may make $80-120K.
That's it.
Nursing is awesome and flexible and has a lot going for it. But exponential income increases? NO.

I find that people on this board ALWAYS over estimate what nurses earn.

signed,
RN with 18 years experience in a ton of different fields including as an NP, a nurse recruiter, etc.

Anonymous
Post 08/16/2017 15:12     Subject: What careers/jobs will always be stable throughout a woman's life?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No one sees this thread as pretty sexist and reactionary? Women have always been consigned the roles of teacher or nurse, the most acceptable profession for college-educated women since the 1940s. Has nothing really changed?


Well, these are union jobs. The question was about job stability, not breaking the glass ceiling.


What I'm saying is that it's sad that things have not evolved so that women have more career choices with stability. Nothing wrong with nursing or teaching, but it's 2017. We should be able to be IT professionals, lawyers, scientists, etc. with some sort of work-life, non-ageist work balance by now.

--A 50-something journalist with a fairly stable job...considering the implosion of a lot of the profession
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2017 11:39     Subject: What careers/jobs will always be stable throughout a woman's life?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm in my early thirties in a dead end field and going back to school for nursing next year. Absolutely buzzy feeling to know my earning power will increase exponentially and predictably in this field, especially with additional education.

Yeah, but you have to be a nurse. I love the idea of this, except the touching gross people part.

I would be a nurse in the nursery or NICU, but no adults, please.

OT, but there was a poster in a thread on "Expectant Moms" talking about how the changes in staffing and move to baby-friendly hospitals meant that nursing staff got consolidated such that post-partum nurses were also caring for healthy newborns and vice-versa. The newborn nurses mostly left the field, or remain and provide bad care to new moms.

This is true. Many acute care hospitals are moving toward the "a nurse is a nurse" mindset and have no qualms about reassigning nurses trained in one specialty to a unit with a similar, but different speciality as a cost-saving measure (think L&D or well-baby nurses to a postpartum floor, ICU nurses to a stepdown floor). It's called floating, it sucks, and it's a reason nurses leave.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2017 11:38     Subject: What careers/jobs will always be stable throughout a woman's life?
Anonymous wrote:No one sees this thread as pretty sexist and reactionary? Women have always been consigned the roles of teacher or nurse, the most acceptable profession for college-educated women since the 1940s. Has nothing really changed?


Well, these are union jobs. The question was about job stability, not breaking the glass ceiling.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2017 11:35     Subject: Re:What careers/jobs will always be stable throughout a woman's life?
Anonymous wrote:What did you do before you became a teacher and what will you do once you leave the classroom? What grade do you teach?

I don't want to be a teacher because my mom was one and she complained constantly. I also just flat out don't get along with her and I don't want to be like her.


I teach 6th and 7th grade. I had two careers before teaching. The first was as a field researcher with the State. The second was design with a software company that did e-textbooks and education platforms. I would like to either write curriculum or train teachers when I leave the classroom. A former colleague is going to spend his last two years coaching new teachers.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2017 11:30     Subject: What careers/jobs will always be stable throughout a woman's life?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm in my early thirties in a dead end field and going back to school for nursing next year. Absolutely buzzy feeling to know my earning power will increase exponentially and predictably in this field, especially with additional education.

Yeah, but you have to be a nurse. I love the idea of this, except the touching gross people part.

I would be a nurse in the nursery or NICU, but no adults, please.

OT, but there was a poster in a thread on "Expectant Moms" talking about how the changes in staffing and move to baby-friendly hospitals meant that nursing staff got consolidated such that post-partum nurses were also caring for healthy newborns and vice-versa. The newborn nurses mostly left the field, or remain and provide bad care to new moms.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2017 11:28     Subject: Re:What careers/jobs will always be stable throughout a woman's life?
Anonymous wrote:Teaching. I am dog tired for 10 months but I can drag myself out of work and get home by 3:30/4:00. There are some annoying parts of the job (but isn't there always?) I make over 100,000 and on my 7th week of vacation . This summer I have traveled all over with my children visiting family and friends. I'm recuperated and am ready to go another 10 months!

Besides the vacation and relatively early hours it is fun to work with (mostly women) of nearly all age ranges 20-60's. The kids are pretty fun too.

It is not for everyone but sometimes I have to pinch myself I love it so much.


What grade do you teach?
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2017 11:27     Subject: Re:What careers/jobs will always be stable throughout a woman's life?
Teaching. I am dog tired for 10 months but I can drag myself out of work and get home by 3:30/4:00. There are some annoying parts of the job (but isn't there always?) I make over 100,000 and on my 7th week of vacation . This summer I have traveled all over with my children visiting family and friends. I'm recuperated and am ready to go another 10 months!

Besides the vacation and relatively early hours it is fun to work with (mostly women) of nearly all age ranges 20-60's. The kids are pretty fun too.

It is not for everyone but sometimes I have to pinch myself I love it so much.