These salaries are amazing! Not my field, don't have the mind or the interest, but wow.

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Anonymous wrote:Seasoned software engineer here. A 60-70k salary for a Sr. software engineer irrespective of clearance = hiring a very green Jr. software engineer lusting a new title.

They won't produce at industry level expectations of a Sr. software Engineer at that salary unless they are indentured servants or you aren't paying a fair wage.

These are highly stressful engineering jobs where you get thrown curve balls all day long. No one with experience who could actually succeed in this role would do it for less than $150 in DC. Market rate for this skill set. Silicon Valley, quadruple that.

anonymous claims, just like the HHI many threads on this board.

name one private company, no defense or clearance required, that pays 150K for senior software developers, just one please

I hire people all the time. H1Bs have taken over the non-gov market for software. Our company used to hire 200 IT college graduates yearly, this year we hired 25. and we are 20% bigger than 10 years ago. What we do have is conference rooms filed with Cognizant and Hexaware and TCS.

at 60K to 70K for java developers that have a senior software developer title.

Deloitte, PWC, BAH to name three big box private shops. Hiring an IT college graduate is not the same as a SR. Software Engineer with 12+ years under their belt. $150k is actually low for a specialized SME with or without clearance. AI proven experience, not just a single undergrad course, a hot commodity right now.

I see inflated titles with presumed crap salaries across the beltway. They bring me in to clean up the mess of a band of newbies architecting software which doesn't scale. It's always the young babes with zero experience using newest tech creating spaghetti. Everything should be JSON, etc...

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Anonymous wrote:Wow these numbers are all over the map. For these $200k+ roles -- is it management technical ? Crazy hours?

Not management, just technical software developer, and no crazy hours, there's a cap to 40 hrs per week, and no work at home since it's cleared work.

Are these at big defense contractors or ??

Not at the big contractors. Smaller contract companies pay well but you must be really good and cleared.

Ah is this contract work and you surf rebadging between companies.

Even better you can get two at the same time and double dip

Honestly what we all should be doing is starting our own companies. Most places bill out at least double what people make. Where the heck does the rest of that money go

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Anonymous wrote:Wow these numbers are all over the map. For these $200k+ roles -- is it management technical ? Crazy hours?

Not management, just technical software developer, and no crazy hours, there's a cap to 40 hrs per week, and no work at home since it's cleared work.

Are these at big defense contractors or ??

Not at the big contractors. Smaller contract companies pay well but you must be really good and cleared.

Ah is this contract work and you surf rebadging between companies.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow these numbers are all over the map. For these $200k+ roles -- is it management technical ? Crazy hours?

Not management, just technical software developer, and no crazy hours, there's a cap to 40 hrs per week, and no work at home since it's cleared work.

Are these at big defense contractors or ??

Not at the big contractors. Smaller contract companies pay well but you must be really good and cleared.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow these numbers are all over the map. For these $200k+ roles -- is it management technical ? Crazy hours?

Not management, just technical software developer, and no crazy hours, there's a cap to 40 hrs per week, and no work at home since it's cleared work.

Are these at big defense contractors or ??

Anonymous wrote:Wow these numbers are all over the map. For these $200k+ roles -- is it management technical ? Crazy hours?

Not management, just technical software developer, and no crazy hours, there's a cap to 40 hrs per week, and no work at home since it's cleared work.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm at $550K. Wtf. Are you guys really this low?????

And you do what, where? Details please

Machine learning at a bank.

How do you get into this. I'm a journey man finance buff so know my way around finance (so I understand a lot of what happens with CDS for example before the crisis and was aware of all that before it hit the fan) though I work in aerospace. What path would make sense b/c aero salaries have very low ceiling.

I have a phD from a reputable school - but absent that, I'd say the best path is to joint a quant firm in NYC where core programming skills matter the most. The intersection of finance and programming knowledge is limited. You'll likely be exposed to machine learning there in some capacity.

I'm also surprised you say aero is low. I have a few friends at SpaceX making $500K or so with the stock. It may be a question of moving city.

SpaceX is about it. I've met with a few other smaller startups and for engineer roles salary is $130k, and stock terms were... opaque. Blue Origin is said to pay low too. In DC it's driven by Beltway bandits (my current employer) which top out at GS14 for non BD roles and maybe $170k at big 5 defense firms (again technical role, though I suspect a specific expert might earn more but not $500k).

Appian - 106K - https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Appian-Senior-Software-Engineer-Washington-DC-Salaries-EJI_IE27819.0,6_KO7,31_IL.32,45_IM911.htm
Capital One - 95 to 104K - https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Capital-One-Sr-Software-Engineer-McLean-Salaries-E3736_DAO.htm?filter.jobTitleExact=Sr.+Software+Engineer&selectedLocationString=C%2C1158535
Cvent - 99K - https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Cvent-Senior-Software-Engineer-McLean-Salaries-EJI_IE104683.0,5_KO6,30_IL.31,37_IC1158535.htm
Iconma - 92K - https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/ICONMA-Senior-Software-Engineer-McLean-Salaries-EJI_IE33807.0,6_KO7,31_IL.32,38_IC1158535.htm

https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/mclean-senior-java-developer-salary-SRCH_IL.0,6_IC1158535_KO7,28.htm

Most companies do not hire H1Bs directly anymore, they hire from the new jersey Indian bodyshops like Cognizant. These firms will place H1Bs start a little above 60K in mclean area.

Anonymous wrote:Seasoned software engineer here. A 60-70k salary for a Sr. software engineer irrespective of clearance = hiring a very green Jr. software engineer lusting a new title.

They won't produce at industry level expectations of a Sr. software Engineer at that salary unless they are indentured servants or you aren't paying a fair wage.

These are highly stressful engineering jobs where you get thrown curve balls all day long. No one with experience who could actually succeed in this role would do it for less than $150 in DC. Market rate for this skill set. Silicon Valley, quadruple that.

anonymous claims, just like the HHI many threads on this board.

name one private company, no defense or clearance required, that pays 150K for senior software developers, just one please

I hire people all the time. H1Bs have taken over the non-gov market for software. Our company used to hire 200 IT college graduates yearly, this year we hired 25. and we are 20% bigger than 10 years ago. What we do have is conference rooms filed with Cognizant and Hexaware and TCS.

at 60K to 70K for java developers that have a senior software developer title.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm at $550K. Wtf. Are you guys really this low?????

And you do what, where? Details please

Machine learning at a bank.

How do you get into this. I'm a journey man finance buff so know my way around finance (so I understand a lot of what happens with CDS for example before the crisis and was aware of all that before it hit the fan) though I work in aerospace. What path would make sense b/c aero salaries have very low ceiling.

I have a phD from a reputable school - but absent that, I'd say the best path is to joint a quant firm in NYC where core programming skills matter the most. The intersection of finance and programming knowledge is limited. You'll likely be exposed to machine learning there in some capacity.

I'm also surprised you say aero is low. I have a few friends at SpaceX making $500K or so with the stock. It may be a question of moving city.

Seasoned software engineer here. A 60-70k salary for a Sr. software engineer irrespective of clearance = hiring a very green Jr. software engineer lusting a new title.

They won't produce at industry level expectations of a Sr. software Engineer at that salary unless they are indentured servants or you aren't paying a fair wage.

These are highly stressful engineering jobs where you get thrown curve balls all day long. No one with experience who could actually succeed in this role would do it for less than $150 in DC. Market rate for this skill set. Silicon Valley, quadruple that.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm at $550K. Wtf. Are you guys really this low?????

And you do what, where? Details please

Machine learning at a bank.

How do you get into this. I'm a journey man finance buff so know my way around finance (so I understand a lot of what happens with CDS for example before the crisis and was aware of all that before it hit the fan) though I work in aerospace. What path would make sense b/c aero salaries have very low ceiling.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow these numbers are all over the map. For these $200k+ roles -- is it management technical ? Crazy hours?

they will never tell you. it is bs unless you have clearance and specific domain knowledge.

but I will tell you Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Navy Federal hire senior develoeprs for 60 to 70K

apply at Infosys, Cognizant, Hexaware, Wipro, TCS

no US citizens need apply

H1b can't do cleared work

Anonymous wrote:Wow these numbers are all over the map. For these $200k+ roles -- is it management technical ? Crazy hours?

they will never tell you. it is bs unless you have clearance and specific domain knowledge.

but I will tell you Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Navy Federal hire senior develoeprs for 60 to 70K

apply at Infosys, Cognizant, Hexaware, Wipro, TCS

no US citizens need apply