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Anonymous wrote:Yes, kids are impressionable and they're being told all of these differences are to be celebrated. Not just tolerated, mind you, but celebrated. So yes, there is a rash of confused kids embracing these identities.

Ah, that word tolerance. It sounds so quaint now. Remember when that's all that was expected, to "tolerate" these behaviors? Now it has to be full blown acceptance.

Tolerate has always meant acceptance. This is all a little silly but it isn't unacceptable. What is unacceptable is an adult who would mock or deride a child for this or post on an internet chat board protesting it. Only the most deranged sort of loser adult who is sick in the mind would do something like that.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, kids are impressionable and they're being told all of these differences are to be celebrated. Not just tolerated, mind you, but celebrated. So yes, there is a rash of confused kids embracing these identities.

Yes, and they enjoy the attention from it and the feeling of being special and unique.

Pp here. They don't get much attention. I think most wise adults, teachers and parents, just roll their eyes and go with it just as they would if they were trying on an emo identity or goth identity or jock identity. It's a little puerile but there's nothing fundamentally wrong with it. And to the degree it provides a supportive environment for kids who actually are transgendered or whatever, that's a plus. Only the ugliest of jackass adults would get their panties in a twist over it. There is literally no harm in humoring it, but plenty of harm in fighting it.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, kids are impressionable and they're being told all of these differences are to be celebrated. Not just tolerated, mind you, but celebrated. So yes, there is a rash of confused kids embracing these identities.

Yes, and they enjoy the attention from it and the feeling of being special and unique.

Which is sad for the kids, because clearly in their cases, it is a cry for help or attention. What I will never understand is the fact that they supposedly have adults as parents, who indulge this.

Anonymous wrote:Yes, kids are impressionable and they're being told all of these differences are to be celebrated. Not just tolerated, mind you, but celebrated. So yes, there is a rash of confused kids embracing these identities.

Ah, that word tolerance. It sounds so quaint now. Remember when that's all that was expected, to "tolerate" these behaviors? Now it has to be full blown acceptance.

Anonymous wrote:Yes, kids are impressionable and they're being told all of these differences are to be celebrated. Not just tolerated, mind you, but celebrated. So yes, there is a rash of confused kids embracing these identities.

Yes, and they enjoy the attention from it and the feeling of being special and unique.

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly, I am horrified by this. Where are these kids' parents, and why are schools allowing this?

Oh slots, go clutch your pearls in Bethesda or loudoun va. This is very happening here innSilver Spring/Takoma Park area. And as a parent I like that my kids could care less and willl call their friends "they" or whatever they want to be called. At least they and their peers are so very loving and accepting of their friends, however they identify, and very avoidant of bullying etc as it plays out elsewhere.

And it will be coming to your area soon!

Yes, kids are impressionable and they're being told all of these differences are to be celebrated. Not just tolerated, mind you, but celebrated. So yes, there is a rash of confused kids embracing these identities.

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Anonymous wrote:My oldest is still in elementary school, but does activities with older kids and this is definitely a thing. I suspect some of the kids are really genderqueer or trans, and others are just playing with an identity like millennia of teens before them.

Yup. Some of them are trying to shock the olds, and hey look, it's working!

I don't think they're trying to shock the olds, they're trying to fit in with the "hip, alternative" crowd.

Anonymous wrote:Frankly, I am horrified by this. Where are these kids' parents, and why are schools allowing this?

Because if administrators don't immediately fall all over themselves fawning over these nut cases they are labeled racist or something.

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Anonymous wrote:This is pretty trendy right now.

Ten years ago it was being bi sexual ( as a teen) that was edgy - now its being bi gendered or non gendered.

A very, very small percentage of teens will go on to identify as neither male nor female into adulthood. For 99% of these kids, they are just being edgy and cool.

Where are all these kids?

Maybe I misunderstand what trendy means. To me, if less than 30% of adolescents are doing it or claim to do it, it isn't a trend.

For over 20 years, I've been a parent, a secondary school teacher, and a leader in groups like GS, GOTR, etc. By my estimation, less than 5% of the kids I've encountered have been out as bisexual or gender queer. Met more kids who were gay/lesbian or trans.

I saw the same panic among parents about being pagan. Only met two Wiccan kids during that entire period.

Do you still work with teens, because from what I've heard this whole bi-gender thing had just exploded in the past year and a half.

I do. I teach MS and ran a camp for rising 9th-10th graders in late June. 25 girls. One out "soft butch" lesbian. She would have corrected me if I had misgendered her.

The day I would allow a MS age girl to "correct" me on something like this is the day I would most likely lose my job. Because I wouldn't stand for it. This is nonsense beyond belief. Just because these kids' idiot parents go along with it does not mean that all adults do, or should.

What does this even mean? If shes lesbian, she is lesbian, it's not all a trend so I don't see a problem.

I think the pp misunderstood what the pp before her stated.

She misunderstood me. I don't see a trend. And even if I saw a trend, I wouldn't see a problem. If I misgendered a kid, I'd expect them to correct me the same as if I had called them by the wrong name.

You would "expect" a middle school or slightly older age kid to "correct" you for calling a girl a girl or a boy a boy?

Truly, some of you are nuts.

If a kid tells me "I'm a boy." I respect that. I don't care what's on their birth certificate or between their legs. I have way more important stuff that I need to get into with them.

Well, if this person is actually a girl, then you're just as crazy as she is.

There's a way to express your opinion respectfully.

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Anonymous wrote:This is pretty trendy right now.

Ten years ago it was being bi sexual ( as a teen) that was edgy - now its being bi gendered or non gendered.

A very, very small percentage of teens will go on to identify as neither male nor female into adulthood. For 99% of these kids, they are just being edgy and cool.

Where are all these kids?

Maybe I misunderstand what trendy means. To me, if less than 30% of adolescents are doing it or claim to do it, it isn't a trend.

For over 20 years, I've been a parent, a secondary school teacher, and a leader in groups like GS, GOTR, etc. By my estimation, less than 5% of the kids I've encountered have been out as bisexual or gender queer. Met more kids who were gay/lesbian or trans.

I saw the same panic among parents about being pagan. Only met two Wiccan kids during that entire period.

Do you still work with teens, because from what I've heard this whole bi-gender thing had just exploded in the past year and a half.

I do. I teach MS and ran a camp for rising 9th-10th graders in late June. 25 girls. One out "soft butch" lesbian. She would have corrected me if I had misgendered her.

The day I would allow a MS age girl to "correct" me on something like this is the day I would most likely lose my job. Because I wouldn't stand for it. This is nonsense beyond belief. Just because these kids' idiot parents go along with it does not mean that all adults do, or should.

What does this even mean? If shes lesbian, she is lesbian, it's not all a trend so I don't see a problem.

I think the pp misunderstood what the pp before her stated.

She misunderstood me. I don't see a trend. And even if I saw a trend, I wouldn't see a problem. If I misgendered a kid, I'd expect them to correct me the same as if I had called them by the wrong name.

You would "expect" a middle school or slightly older age kid to "correct" you for calling a girl a girl or a boy a boy?

Truly, some of you are nuts.

If a kid tells me "I'm a boy." I respect that. I don't care what's on their birth certificate or between their legs. I have way more important stuff that I need to get into with them.

Well, if this person is actually a girl, then you're just as crazy as she is.

Anonymous wrote:Frankly, I am horrified by this. Where are these kids' parents, and why are schools allowing this?

Oh slots, go clutch your pearls in Bethesda or loudoun va. This is very happening here innSilver Spring/Takoma Park area. And as a parent I like that my kids could care less and willl call their friends "they" or whatever they want to be called. At least they and their peers are so very loving and accepting of their friends, however they identify, and very avoidant of bullying etc as it plays out elsewhere.

Anonymous wrote:My oldest is still in elementary school, but does activities with older kids and this is definitely a thing. I suspect some of the kids are really genderqueer or trans, and others are just playing with an identity like millennia of teens before them.

Yup. Some of them are trying to shock the olds, and hey look, it's working!

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Anonymous wrote:This is pretty trendy right now.

Ten years ago it was being bi sexual ( as a teen) that was edgy - now its being bi gendered or non gendered.

A very, very small percentage of teens will go on to identify as neither male nor female into adulthood. For 99% of these kids, they are just being edgy and cool.

Where are all these kids?

Maybe I misunderstand what trendy means. To me, if less than 30% of adolescents are doing it or claim to do it, it isn't a trend.

For over 20 years, I've been a parent, a secondary school teacher, and a leader in groups like GS, GOTR, etc. By my estimation, less than 5% of the kids I've encountered have been out as bisexual or gender queer. Met more kids who were gay/lesbian or trans.

I saw the same panic among parents about being pagan. Only met two Wiccan kids during that entire period.

Do you still work with teens, because from what I've heard this whole bi-gender thing had just exploded in the past year and a half.

I do. I teach MS and ran a camp for rising 9th-10th graders in late June. 25 girls. One out "soft butch" lesbian. She would have corrected me if I had misgendered her.

The day I would allow a MS age girl to "correct" me on something like this is the day I would most likely lose my job. Because I wouldn't stand for it. This is nonsense beyond belief. Just because these kids' idiot parents go along with it does not mean that all adults do, or should.

What does this even mean? If shes lesbian, she is lesbian, it's not all a trend so I don't see a problem.

I think the pp misunderstood what the pp before her stated.

She misunderstood me. I don't see a trend. And even if I saw a trend, I wouldn't see a problem. If I misgendered a kid, I'd expect them to correct me the same as if I had called them by the wrong name.

You would "expect" a middle school or slightly older age kid to "correct" you for calling a girl a girl or a boy a boy?

Truly, some of you are nuts.

If a kid tells me "I'm a boy." I respect that. I don't care what's on their birth certificate or between their legs. I have way more important stuff that I need to get into with them.

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The day I would allow a MS age girl to "correct" me on something like this is the day I would most likely lose my job. Because I wouldn't stand for it. This is nonsense beyond belief. Just because these kids' idiot parents go along with it does not mean that all adults do, or should.

I'm ok with that.