Anonymous wrote:And yet still no evidence of any criminal wrongdoing by any Trumps... Keep trying.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
As someone a bit familiar with Russia and finance, who paid full price for "Red Notice" when it came out and eagerly read it, I think this just might not be the case. Not only is a Browder a player in a game where lying is almost de rigueur, he's also renounced his American citizenship. Without explicitly saying he's wrong, I'd hope thoughtful people looked just a bit askance at his narrative.
For one, a known Putin critic and filmaker named Andrei Nekrasov attempted to make a docudrama of the Browder story, starting from the assumption that Browder was in the right. In researching the story, Nekrasov became increasingly of the mind that Browder himself was deceitful in regards to the Magnitsky story and that the truth lay somewhere outsider Browder's narrative. Nekrasov completed his film as a documentary, "The Magnitsky Act: Behind the Scenes" and was hounded by Browder's lawyers so much that distribution became impossible, blocking a premiere showing at the European Parliament. The film was shown once at the Newseum, but it remains nearly impossible to find.
More here: https://consortiumnews.com/2017/07/13/how-russia-gate-met-the-magnitsky-myth/
Like so much of this power and money stuff, almost all involved are shameless liars with enormous stakes. Thoughtful and pro-social people should be suspicious.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/449419/donald-trump-jr-meeting-magnitsky-act-propaganda
The Russian attorney at the Kushner/Manafort/Junior meeting, Veselnitskaya was instrumental in arranging a screening of the film at the Newseum in Washington, D.C
But thanks for sharing, Komrade.
I love DCUM, you get the most mindless information from predictable functionaries and you get it for free: no money goes directly from me to Jeff Bezos, though who knows whether AWS is here?
You still need to explain why the film can't be found on-line. That little fact is more than a bit revealing.
And the mask falls. Troll, troll, troll.
I guess my low opinion of most posters' reasoning is well warranted. Thanks for providing confirmation.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You recall in his prepared testimony that he said he liked and supported Putin in 2004. If you'd read it, you would have noticed that. But instead you are trolling, poating meaningless sh*t meant to discredit Browder.
Shame on you.
+100
Browder admitted in his testimony that he liked Putin in the early days, as Putin was supportive of foreign direct investment. No surprise he penned a pro-Putin op-ed, when Putin was still nominally respecting the rule of law.
Putin went fully corrupt, according to Browder, sometime in late 2004 or early 2005.
Anonymous wrote:You recall in his prepared testimony that he said he liked and supported Putin in 2004. If you'd read it, you would have noticed that. But instead you are trolling, poating meaningless sh*t meant to discredit Browder.
Shame on you.
Anonymous wrote:Fox News isn't talking about this. The main stream media outlets haven't covered it near enough. People need to share this statement to as many voters (regardless of party) as they can.
Anonymous wrote:New poster here. I believe Browder's story about his dealings with Putin and the oligarchs. But I skimmed through his book earlier this summer, and the same thought kept occurring to me. He didn't have the success he had in Moscow without being thoroughly corrupt himself.
Both things can be true - that Putin is a murderous and election-meddling thug who should be stopped AND that Browder is seeking vengeance for having his lawyer/friend killed and his assets stolen. His book made clear that he is certainly an egomaniac.
Why do I think all this? Because I worked in Moscow throughout the 90s. By 1995 (a year before Browder ever showed up), you couldn't even sign a contract to buy candy without being pressured for serious kick-backs. I was asked to fold the cost of new Land Rovers into the contract and have them delivered to the decision-makers in the Russian organizations. Our proposals were disqualified based on technicalities because we hadn't paid the bribes. The big corporations all hired middlemen to handle all the corruption for them and then pay "commissions" for representational services.
I was just a small-time nothing who eventually had to leave because I wouldn't play by the new rules. So no way is Browder virtuous in all this.
All the same, I'm grateful he pushed for the Magnitsky Act. His massive ego has helped to raise awareness and maybe something will come of it.
Anonymous wrote:The Russian film is available on-line. Parry's article cited above says the following in his July 13 article:
"From searches that I did on Wednesday, Nekrasov’s film was not available on Amazon although a pro-Magnitsky documentary was. I did find a streaming service that appeared to have the film available."
from a Google search, it also looks like the film is available on YouTube.
so no, Komrade, you are NOT being censored. That's what we like about America. That little thing called Free Speech. You and your Kremlin cohorts are certainly free to try to get people to buy into your version of how Sergei Magnitsky "accidentally" died in prison, just as Mr. Browder can make his case as well.
"The movie's director, Andrei Nekrasov, has a record as a staunch Putin critic, having among other things made a damning film about the assassination/poisoning of former intelligence officer Alxander Litvinenko. He has told reporters he began his Magnitsky project intending to tell it from Browder's point of view, even envisioning Browder as narrator, but became convinced the facts didn't support that narrative.