You guys are so dated. Third date is totally fine.

Men like good girls to marry and pass on their DNA (have kids with them). This is biological conditioning because they do not want to raise other men's kids. As for plain hooking up? They want girls who are willing to have sex with them sooner rather than later.

If a man finds a suitable woman to marry he will appreciate her being a good girl. Most men are not looking to get married though before they are settled in their career and in finances so they will not continue to date someone who will not have sex with them after a few dates.

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Anonymous wrote:Women who are responsible and level-headed know that there are dangers associated with having sex with strangers. A woman who will sleep with someone she just met is likely to be impulsive, attention-seeking, and needy. It's not about libido. I would worry equally about a woman who's really into walking down dark alleys at night or riding a motorcycle without a helmet.

Most men will sleep with someone they just met. Does that mean they are also impulsive, attention-seeking, and needy?

Why don't they just buy it then, if that's all it is? Simpler and you could say a straightforward transaction.

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Anonymous wrote:Men like women who show some degree of discrimination. If a 27 year old woman hops in bed with a guy on the first date, how many first dates has she had? On the other hand sometimes having a date with a bad girl is just fine.

Sorry, hon, wishful thinking. We're looking for good enough and willing.

Come now, so many women have hopped into bed and never texted again etc. That may be what you are looking for today, and tomorrow you are also looking for that from 'next!'

Anonymous wrote:I think you're using logic to understand attraction and emotions that are not logical. People like the chase and the challenges. It's the same reason a lot of women are attracted to bad boys. Logic says they won't make stable partners, but damn they're hot and we want to "save" them.
When we start thinking more deeply about finding an actual partner, more sensible considerations enter the mix, but sometimes logic doesn't win.

This is exactly it.

Your friends sound like A holes.

Anonymous wrote:Men like women who show some degree of discrimination. If a 27 year old woman hops in bed with a guy on the first date, how many first dates has she had? On the other hand sometimes having a date with a bad girl is just fine.

Sorry, hon, wishful thinking. We're looking for good enough and willing.

To men, dating a good girl is a lot like fishing. There is nothing better than getting one on the line, having it put up a good fight and then brining it on board. Where's the sport in instantly landing one unless you have an immediate need to eat.

Anonymous wrote:I think you're using logic to understand attraction and emotions that are not logical. People like the chase and the challenges. It's the same reason a lot of women are attracted to bad boys. Logic says they won't make stable partners, but damn they're hot and we want to "save" them.
When we start thinking more deeply about finding an actual partner, more sensible considerations enter the mix, but sometimes logic doesn't win.

This is an interesting take and makes sense to me. In both cases, it's about the chase.

Men like women who show some degree of discrimination. If a 27 year old woman hops in bed with a guy on the first date, how many first dates has she had? On the other hand sometimes having a date with a bad girl is just fine.

Because they have double standards. Those men suck. Sometimes I have waited and sometimes I haven't. Dumb post.

It always took me a half dozen dates before I would even consider, let alone sleep with a guy. I knew my DH for three years before we ever had a date and we were good friends. On our first real date I slept with him which I'm pretty sure surprised him. We've been happily married a very long time and continue to have a great sex life.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a good girl and very into sex with DH, and other serious boyfriends I've had, but not into sex with guys I don't know well. Just for me, unless I already knew a date fairly well through real life (from work, through a group of friends, a volunteer activity), I would not feel relaxed and turned on by them enough by the 3rd date to have sex with them. If someone else enjoys sex with people earlier, that's totally fine as well. But I don't think your correlation between "won't put out early" and "doesn't like sex" is correct at all.

+1.

+2

I think you're using logic to understand attraction and emotions that are not logical. People like the chase and the challenges. It's the same reason a lot of women are attracted to bad boys. Logic says they won't make stable partners, but damn they're hot and we want to "save" them.
When we start thinking more deeply about finding an actual partner, more sensible considerations enter the mix, but sometimes logic doesn't win.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Women who are responsible and level-headed know that there are dangers associated with having sex with strangers. A woman who will sleep with someone she just met is likely to be impulsive, attention-seeking, and needy. It's not about libido. I would worry equally about a woman who's really into walking down dark alleys at night or riding a motorcycle without a helmet.

Most men will sleep with someone they just met. Does that mean they are also impulsive, attention-seeking, and needy?

Needy? Yes