PaleoConPrep wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

PaleoConPrep wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

PaleoConPrep wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read the story about this in the WaPo. I agree that the professor should have been kicked out, too -- you shouldn't yell at patrons. That said, a private gym has the right to exclude Nazis if they want to.

The gym certainly has the right to do it. I just don't understand why they did it. Before long, Right-wingers will have to establish private gyms exclusively for Right-wingers.

OP, right-wingers are welcome at any gym. Richard Spencer is not "a right-winger".

I think the gym could have taken a courageous stand and kept him on. However, their business model is increasing the number of satisfied gym-goers, not reducing it. So they kicked out the problematic gym-goer.

Right. I agree it's the right move from a business prospective. Where do you draw the line though? Let's say Pat Buchanan worked out at a gym, and was confronted by someone. Do you think he should be booted out? How do you decide who's welcome and who's not?

Someone that calls for ethnic cleansing. Out.

It's not difficult. Really.

When Spencer says "ethnic cleansing", he's not talking about killing minorities. He's talking about moving them to an area away from whites.(he's a "white separatist") I totally disagree with him on this, but just trying to clarify his position.

Ok, so what happens to the minorities who refuse to comply? Are they moved with force? And if they resist the force, what happens? Does the force escalate? Once you start using the power of the state to compel people to do things against their will you're ultimately saying you're willing to kill them. You're making a distinction without a difference to say he's not talking about killing.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:This is not about his personal views. Spencer is a very public figure who is vocal about his antiquates beliefs. He advertises and monetizes his prejudice and hatred - it's not some private dinner table ideas.

Well ok, but how do you define "hatred?" Does opposing same-sex marriage make one a hater?(Buchanan and Ken Cuccinelli fall into this camp) Or is i just racist comments that would make someone a hater?

I'm biracial. He thinks people like me are unnatural. I feel pretty confident that this qualifies as him hating me and people like me.

But why should holding this view get his gym membership revoked?

Didn't you just finish your first year of college? Shouldn't you be slightly past this kind of simplistic question?

Here, I'll say it in conservative speak: the business doesn't want to be affiliated with Nazis. It is their right to discontinue having him as a client. Read the disgusting things tweeted to the woman who confronted him. It's a disgusting look into the underbelly of America. The gym doesn't want that kind of filth getting all over their gym.

Just finished up my last year at prep school. I'm headed to college this fall. I've already said I think it's the righ decision from a vuisness prospective. I just wish the leaders of this gym had a spine. Take a stand and lose some customers. Why did they ever let him join in the first place, if it's such a big deal?

They did have a spine and stood up for the majority of their staff and clients. Who happen to be the minority groups your hero despises

https://www.theatlantic.com/video/index/510533/rebranding-white-nationalism-inside-the-alt-right/

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Anonymous wrote:

PaleoConPrep wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

PaleoConPrep wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is not about his personal views. Spencer is a very public figure who is vocal about his antiquates beliefs. He advertises and monetizes his prejudice and hatred - it's not some private dinner table ideas.

Well ok, but how do you define "hatred?" Does opposing same-sex marriage make one a hater?(Buchanan and Ken Cuccinelli fall into this camp) Or is i just racist comments that would make someone a hater?

I'm biracial. He thinks people like me are unnatural. I feel pretty confident that this qualifies as him hating me and people like me.

But why should holding this view get his gym membership revoked?

Didn't you just finish your first year of college? Shouldn't you be slightly past this kind of simplistic question?

Here, I'll say it in conservative speak: the business doesn't want to be affiliated with Nazis. It is their right to discontinue having him as a client. Read the disgusting things tweeted to the woman who confronted him. It's a disgusting look into the underbelly of America. The gym doesn't want that kind of filth getting all over their gym.

He is the high school kid (with the low gpa and test scores) that trolls the college forum. I think community college or jail is where he is headed

How kind of you. Just trying to have a discussion, and you attack me personally. I'm headed to St. John's College this fall BTW. I got a 28 on my ACT. Maybe that's low in DCUM land, but it got me into some pretty decent schools.

PaleoConPrep wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read the story about this in the WaPo. I agree that the professor should have been kicked out, too -- you shouldn't yell at patrons. That said, a private gym has the right to exclude Nazis if they want to.

The gym certainly has the right to do it. I just don't understand why they did it. Before long, Right-wingers will have to establish private gyms exclusively for Right-wingers.

I agree with you. Reprehensible man, private gym has the right, however probably not a good idea to leave her instated as well.

Fair doesn't want people to contact her employer but, it okay with getting people kicked out of private health clubs? According to the WaPo article:

Fair called Nomani’s appeal to her employer a “very dangerous trend.” She said Nomani, a former professor at Georgetown, has no standing at the university to complain.

“I am most concerned about the increasing appeal to employers to silence the criticism of citizens made in their private capacity as citizens,” she wrote in an email to The Washington Post. “Because most of us need our jobs, as few of us are financially independent, this is the most pernicious form of bullying of critics.”

PaleoConPrep wrote:http://www.newsweek.com/richard-spencer-confronted-professor-over-alt-right-views-and-expelled-gym-613194

Now to be clear, I'm no fan of Spencer. He's a pro-choice Atheist and a low-brow racist. That being said, I don't understand why his gym membership was revoked. What did he do to get it revoked? I know you guys probably think he's a piece of trash, but why should one's political/social views get one's membership at a gym revoked? He even tried to avoid the situation by telling this Georgetown professor that he was not Richard Spencer. If anything, I think it's the professor who should have her membership revoked. Just ridiculous.

Political views should not be obstructed.
But nazism is kind of snake that should be killed as soon as it hatched out of an egg.
I will applaud if one day all his civil rights will be stripped.
Nazism is not a political view, it's a plan of global genocide of subhumans - Jews, blacks, Slavs, Roma, central asians, etc..

Kind of interesting since the gym is nestled into a sure blocks away from The Berg public Housing project

Wonder how many of those residents would be welcomed by this insufferable professor or the manager? Other than the boat club, that gym
Is one of the whitest places in Old Town

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PaleoConPrep wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

PaleoConPrep wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is not about his personal views. Spencer is a very public figure who is vocal about his antiquates beliefs. He advertises and monetizes his prejudice and hatred - it's not some private dinner table ideas.

Well ok, but how do you define "hatred?" Does opposing same-sex marriage make one a hater?(Buchanan and Ken Cuccinelli fall into this camp) Or is i just racist comments that would make someone a hater?

I'm biracial. He thinks people like me are unnatural. I feel pretty confident that this qualifies as him hating me and people like me.

But why should holding this view get his gym membership revoked?

Didn't you just finish your first year of college? Shouldn't you be slightly past this kind of simplistic question?

Here, I'll say it in conservative speak: the business doesn't want to be affiliated with Nazis. It is their right to discontinue having him as a client. Read the disgusting things tweeted to the woman who confronted him. It's a disgusting look into the underbelly of America. The gym doesn't want that kind of filth getting all over their gym.

Just finished up my last year at prep school. I'm headed to college this fall. I've already said I think it's the righ decision from a vuisness prospective. I just wish the leaders of this gym had a spine. Take a stand and lose some customers. Why did they ever let him join in the first place, if it's such a big deal?

PaleoConPrep wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

PaleoConPrep wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read the story about this in the WaPo. I agree that the professor should have been kicked out, too -- you shouldn't yell at patrons. That said, a private gym has the right to exclude Nazis if they want to.

The gym certainly has the right to do it. I just don't understand why they did it. Before long, Right-wingers will have to establish private gyms exclusively for Right-wingers.

Already have them

What do you mean?

Before you post again. Take a little time and watch this.

https://www.theatlantic.com/video/index/510533/rebranding-white-nationalism-inside-the-alt-right/

This site cannot teach you a semester of history to support the above.

PaleoConPrep wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, Richard Spencer's views are reprehensible. Period.

It does seem that Fair has a problem with the first amendment:


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/education/wp/2017/01/06/muslim-woman-who-voted-for-trump-asks-georgetown-to-intervene-over-professors-hateful-vulgar-messages/?utm_term=.da0086df2c81

They are reprehensible, but that doesn't matter. I don't care what he belives. As long as he's not hurting anyone or insulting people at the gym, why should his membership be revoked?

I guess you're one of those people who think that ideas aren't dangerous or hurtful. He thinks I should never have existed. You think I should tolerate sharing a bench with this a-hole? Are you serious?

And honestly, I'd be concerned about him making connections at my gym with his "ideas." People go to workout, but it's also a social atmosphere. That's dangerous as hell.

Anonymous wrote:

PaleoConPrep wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

PaleoConPrep wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is not about his personal views. Spencer is a very public figure who is vocal about his antiquates beliefs. He advertises and monetizes his prejudice and hatred - it's not some private dinner table ideas.

Well ok, but how do you define "hatred?" Does opposing same-sex marriage make one a hater?(Buchanan and Ken Cuccinelli fall into this camp) Or is i just racist comments that would make someone a hater?

I'm biracial. He thinks people like me are unnatural. I feel pretty confident that this qualifies as him hating me and people like me.

But why should holding this view get his gym membership revoked?

Didn't you just finish your first year of college? Shouldn't you be slightly past this kind of simplistic question?

Here, I'll say it in conservative speak: the business doesn't want to be affiliated with Nazis. It is their right to discontinue having him as a client. Read the disgusting things tweeted to the woman who confronted him. It's a disgusting look into the underbelly of America. The gym doesn't want that kind of filth getting all over their gym.

He is the high school kid (with the low gpa and test scores) that trolls the college forum. I think community college or jail is where he is headed

Anonymous wrote:

PaleoConPrep wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read the story about this in the WaPo. I agree that the professor should have been kicked out, too -- you shouldn't yell at patrons. That said, a private gym has the right to exclude Nazis if they want to.

The gym certainly has the right to do it. I just don't understand why they did it. Before long, Right-wingers will have to establish private gyms exclusively for Right-wingers.

Already have them

What do you mean?

PaleoConPrep wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

PaleoConPrep wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is not about his personal views. Spencer is a very public figure who is vocal about his antiquates beliefs. He advertises and monetizes his prejudice and hatred - it's not some private dinner table ideas.

Well ok, but how do you define "hatred?" Does opposing same-sex marriage make one a hater?(Buchanan and Ken Cuccinelli fall into this camp) Or is i just racist comments that would make someone a hater?

I'm biracial. He thinks people like me are unnatural. I feel pretty confident that this qualifies as him hating me and people like me.

But why should holding this view get his gym membership revoked?

Didn't you just finish your first year of college? Shouldn't you be slightly past this kind of simplistic question?

Here, I'll say it in conservative speak: the business doesn't want to be affiliated with Nazis. It is their right to discontinue having him as a client. Read the disgusting things tweeted to the woman who confronted him. It's a disgusting look into the underbelly of America. The gym doesn't want that kind of filth getting all over their gym.

Anonymous wrote:OP, Richard Spencer's views are reprehensible. Period.

It does seem that Fair has a problem with the first amendment:


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/education/wp/2017/01/06/muslim-woman-who-voted-for-trump-asks-georgetown-to-intervene-over-professors-hateful-vulgar-messages/?utm_term=.da0086df2c81

They are reprehensible, but that doesn't matter. I don't care what he belives. As long as he's not hurting anyone or insulting people at the gym, why should his membership be revoked?

PaleoConPrep wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read the story about this in the WaPo. I agree that the professor should have been kicked out, too -- you shouldn't yell at patrons. That said, a private gym has the right to exclude Nazis if they want to.

The gym certainly has the right to do it. I just don't understand why they did it. Before long, Right-wingers will have to establish private gyms exclusively for Right-wingers.

Already have them