Odysseus
Post 05/16/2017 09:17     Subject: Re:Childish men are to blame for women having kids late in life
The title of this thread is the most DCUM thing I've ever read.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2017 09:11     Subject: Childish men are to blame for women having kids late in life
Anonymous wrote:You have the education.
You have the career.
You have the money for a home and childcare.
You have IVF at your disposal.

You don't need men.



Where does the sperm come from?
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2017 09:09     Subject: Childish men are to blame for women having kids late in life
Anonymous wrote:You have the education.
You have the career.
You have the money for a home and childcare.
You have IVF at your disposal.

You don't need men.





You don't need IVF to use donor sperm. It can be done with IUI, intrauterine insemination. More of a turkey baster concept than removing the eggs from the body and fertilizing them in a Petri dish.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2017 08:29     Subject: Re:Childish men are to blame for women having kids late in life
Anonymous wrote:It seems to me that it is a great time to be a man. Because of the imbalance in educated women to men and the changing values of society. I do not worry for my sons and I am concerned about my daughter's prospects.


It's a good time to be an affluent/powerful man. It's not a good time to be a poor/working/lower middle class man. The education imbalance means that you have a glut of thirtysomething women who are holding out for an "equal (or greater than)" partner (i.e. upper middle class/upper class men).

Maybe people should focus less on getting "more women in STEM" and focus more on getting more men to simply graduate from college at all. It's funny how one is a feminist cause celebre while you barely hear about the other.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2017 08:01     Subject: Childish men are to blame for women having kids late in life
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You have the education.
You have the career.
You have the money for a home and childcare.
You have IVF at your disposal.

You don't need men.





I don't want to have a baby by myself.


Then start dating a guy who a) exists, and b) is interested in your company, despite his lack of Ivy League degree, desired height above 5-10 median, and desired eye color. Or whatever you're holding out for.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2017 07:59     Subject: Childish men are to blame for women having kids late in life
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You have the education.
You have the career.
You have the money for a home and childcare.
You have IVF at your disposal.

You don't need men.





Please leave


No the PP, but what's wrong with this response?


Because you're robbing your child of having a father? B/c every single study done shows children do better in 2-parent households? Especially boys.


So let me get this straight. If I can provide a loving stable home for a child, I should not have one because the one thing I don't have is a partner? It would be better in your eyes to settle for a man, any man, then embark on this journey by myself? And when the marriage goes south, because I settled, it's better that the children live through divorce? Or maybe you think that I should have to have to suck it up and endure the marriage I settled for because I wanted children? Then again, what if he leaves against my wishes--you know because you can't control if someone wants to be in a relationship.



I'm not trying to upset you, but if you cannot find a decent partner who wants to live his/her life with you, then there is something wrong with you.

And so no, you should not procreate and you should also not burden your child with your mental illness/personality disorder, esp. since will be no other co-parent they can turn to when you get too cray.



Np. Pp, I would love to know: how old are you? My guess is that you are older, from the time when unmarried women were seen as failures and old maids? Or maybe from a culture that still sees it that way?


I'm in my 40s and I am American. And no, I don't think unmarried women are failures or old maids at all, in fact I have tremendous admiration for those who buck the pressure to be mothers and pioneer their own paths.

However, women who choose to be single moms -- as opposed to having it forced on them -- are nuts. And it is cruel to bring your child up without a father on purpose. And yes, I stand by the statement that if you cannot find one other adult who is willing to hitch his/her wagon to yours, there is something seriously wrong with you.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2017 07:54     Subject: Childish men are to blame for women having kids late in life
Anonymous wrote:You have the education.
You have the career.
You have the money for a home and childcare.
You have IVF at your disposal.

You don't need men.





I don't want to have a baby by myself.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2017 07:50     Subject: Childish men are to blame for women having kids late in life
Feminists = every mistake and regret in my life is the fault of men. I am sooo powerless.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2017 07:37     Subject: Re:Childish men are to blame for women having kids late in life
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It seems to me that it is a great time to be a man. Because of the imbalance in educated women to men and the changing values of society. I do not worry for my sons and I am concerned about my daughter's prospects.

I'm think the opposite- it's a horrible time to be a man. Look at all the anti men marches, rants, and raves. I worry more about my son's future than I do my son's.


Yes, this.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2017 07:28     Subject: Re:Childish men are to blame for women having kids late in life
Anonymous wrote:This article basically says he'll never buy the cow if he can get the milk for free. Grandma knew that, it's not new.


You need to stop thinking that the solution to all relationship problems is to not have a relationship. A woman who rations her time is going to be married later, not sooner. Which is sort of what the article says anyway.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2017 07:02     Subject: Re:Childish men are to blame for women having kids late in life
Anonymous wrote:It seems to me that it is a great time to be a man. Because of the imbalance in educated women to men and the changing values of society. I do not worry for my sons and I am concerned about my daughter's prospects.

I'm think the opposite- it's a horrible time to be a man. Look at all the anti men marches, rants, and raves. I worry more about my son's future than I do my son's.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2017 07:00     Subject: Childish men are to blame for women having kids late in life
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You have the education.
You have the career.
You have the money for a home and childcare.
You have IVF at your disposal.

You don't need men.





Please leave


No the PP, but what's wrong with this response?


Because you're robbing your child of having a father? B/c every single study done shows children do better in 2-parent households? Especially boys.




Who needs boys. They grow into men and they are clearly surplus to requirements.

You sound lovely
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2017 06:55     Subject: Childish men are to blame for women having kids late in life
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You have the education.
You have the career.
You have the money for a home and childcare.
You have IVF at your disposal.

You don't need men.





Please leave


No the PP, but what's wrong with this response?


Because you're robbing your child of having a father? B/c every single study done shows children do better in 2-parent households? Especially boys.


So let me get this straight. If I can provide a loving stable home for a child, I should not have one because the one thing I don't have is a partner? It would be better in your eyes to settle for a man, any man, then embark on this journey by myself? And when the marriage goes south, because I settled, it's better that the children live through divorce? Or maybe you think that I should have to have to suck it up and endure the marriage I settled for because I wanted children? Then again, what if he leaves against my wishes--you know because you can't control if someone wants to be in a relationship.



I'm not trying to upset you, but if you cannot find a decent partner who wants to live his/her life with you, then there is something wrong with you.

And so no, you should not procreate and you should also not burden your child with your mental illness/personality disorder, esp. since will be no other co-parent they can turn to when you get too cray.


This
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2017 03:09     Subject: Re:Childish men are to blame for women having kids late in life
It seems to me that it is a great time to be a man. Because of the imbalance in educated women to men and the changing values of society. I do not worry for my sons and I am concerned about my daughter's prospects.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2017 01:57     Subject: Re:Childish men are to blame for women having kids late in life
Anonymous wrote:This article basically says he'll never buy the cow if he can get the milk for free. Grandma knew that, it's not new.

Also, men prize different qualities in women than women prize in men. An average looking woman with an ivy league education is not the equal of an average looking man with an ivy education. A female preschool [vimeo]teacher with a hot body has far more dating options than the hot bodied male preschool teacher. Same doesn't mean equal


It all depends on her background. A preschool teacher from a good family and who is presentable to coworkers is great. One from a working class family will have a hard time getting high flying Ivy men to the altar.