Anonymous
05/15/2019 17:13
Subject: S/O Is "chop chop" offensive?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Totally depends on the context. If it's said seriously or with a certain tone, absolutely.
(Not Asian)
I have no idea what you mean. Offensive when said seriously or with a certain tone? What tone?
Welshing on a deal - offensive. Saying Chop chop to mean hurry, why would this be offensive?
I just looked up "welsh" and it's not anti-welsh. It refers to a practice common in 18th century England where englishman would run off to wales to avoid debts (especially bookies that wanted to avoid paying on bets). So it didn't suggest that the welsh were unreliable--it just suggested that wales was a good place to hide from creditors. Which was probably true then, and maybe still is true now.
It is generally considered offensive now.
http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/72806/are-the-terms-welsh-or-welch-as-in-reneging-on-a-bet-derogatory-toward-the
Wales was the Cayman Islands of olden times.
OP, I also worry chop chop is racist. Have any Asians or Asian-Americans weighed in on this thread?
Only by the people who have an apoplexy if you use the word niggardly.
Um .. the original usage of "welsh" the verb implies people who live in Wales, or at least some subset of them, are debtors who ran away to hide from their creditors. How is that not derogatory towards people who live in Wales aka Welsh people?
Because that origin story, f it’s accurate, makes clear it was not the Welsh who were the debtors. It was Englishmen who were going to Wales to hide out. That doesn’t make them Welsh. It seems to me more anti-Welsh to confuse them with the English. That would be like saying if you criticize English landholders in Ireland you’re criticizing the Irish because they happen to be in Ireland.
Anonymous
05/15/2019 17:12
Subject: S/O Is "chop chop" offensive?
Anonymous wrote:Is it offensive to use Yiddish? French? Can I say Au Revoir?
Oy!!
Anonymous
05/15/2019 17:07
Subject: S/O Is "chop chop" offensive?
Anonymous wrote:When telling someone to hurry up, is the expression "chop chop" offensive? Especially interested in hearing from Asians and Asian-Americans.
Haven't you learned that in the current time EVERYTHING is offensive.
Anonymous
05/15/2019 16:58
Subject: S/O Is "chop chop" offensive?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Totally depends on the context. If it's said seriously or with a certain tone, absolutely.
(Not Asian)
I have no idea what you mean. Offensive when said seriously or with a certain tone? What tone?
Welshing on a deal - offensive. Saying Chop chop to mean hurry, why would this be offensive?
I just looked up "welsh" and it's not anti-welsh. It refers to a practice common in 18th century England where englishman would run off to wales to avoid debts (especially bookies that wanted to avoid paying on bets). So it didn't suggest that the welsh were unreliable--it just suggested that wales was a good place to hide from creditors. Which was probably true then, and maybe still is true now.
It is generally considered offensive now.
http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/72806/are-the-terms-welsh-or-welch-as-in-reneging-on-a-bet-derogatory-toward-the
Only by the people who have an apoplexy if you use the word niggardly.
Um .. the original usage of "welsh" the verb implies people who live in Wales, or at least some subset of them, are debtors who ran away to hide from their creditors. How is that not derogatory towards people who live in Wales aka Welsh people?
You go first -- how is it derogatory? If I make a bet with my kid, he loses but doesn't pay up, and I say he welshed on the bet, how is that derogatory? Seems to me like an accurate historical reference. Oh, wait, is historical offensive too?
Anonymous
05/15/2019 16:57
Subject: Re:S/O Is "chop chop" offensive?
In "The Madness of King George" (film) the scenes where George III is racing around in the dead of night and his entourage has to leap out of bed running ahead of him yelling "Chop Chop! The King the King!" are some of my favorites.
Anonymous
05/15/2019 16:40
Subject: S/O Is "chop chop" offensive?
Omg here we go again. Just stop
Anonymous
05/15/2019 16:40
Subject: S/O Is "chop chop" offensive?
NO
Anonymous
05/15/2019 16:40
Subject: S/O Is "chop chop" offensive?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Totally depends on the context. If it's said seriously or with a certain tone, absolutely.
(Not Asian)
I have no idea what you mean. Offensive when said seriously or with a certain tone? What tone?
Welshing on a deal - offensive. Saying Chop chop to mean hurry, why would this be offensive?
I just looked up "welsh" and it's not anti-welsh. It refers to a practice common in 18th century England where englishman would run off to wales to avoid debts (especially bookies that wanted to avoid paying on bets). So it didn't suggest that the welsh were unreliable--it just suggested that wales was a good place to hide from creditors. Which was probably true then, and maybe still is true now.
It is generally considered offensive now.
http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/72806/are-the-terms-welsh-or-welch-as-in-reneging-on-a-bet-derogatory-toward-the
Only by the people who have an apoplexy if you use the word niggardly.
Um .. the original usage of "welsh" the verb implies people who live in Wales, or at least some subset of them, are debtors who ran away to hide from their creditors. How is that not derogatory towards people who live in Wales aka Welsh people?
Because that origin story, f it’s accurate, makes clear it was not the Welsh who were the debtors. It was Englishmen who were going to Wales to hide out. That doesn’t make them Welsh. It seems to me more anti-Welsh to confuse them with the English. That would be like saying if you criticize English landholders in Ireland you’re criticizing the Irish because they happen to be in Ireland.
Anonymous
05/15/2019 16:35
Subject: Re:S/O Is "chop chop" offensive?
Anonymous wrote:https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2014/02/20/280186897/quick-what-are-the-origins-of-chop-chop
No. I don't think it's offensive.
Not racist, but certainly has the capacity to be offensive.
The utterance "chop-chop" would also become closely associated with class over time, and was almost always said by someone powerful to someone "below."
Anonymous
05/15/2019 16:31
Subject: S/O Is "chop chop" offensive?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Totally depends on the context. If it's said seriously or with a certain tone, absolutely.
(Not Asian)
I have no idea what you mean. Offensive when said seriously or with a certain tone? What tone?
Welshing on a deal - offensive. Saying Chop chop to mean hurry, why would this be offensive?
I just looked up "welsh" and it's not anti-welsh. It refers to a practice common in 18th century England where englishman would run off to wales to avoid debts (especially bookies that wanted to avoid paying on bets). So it didn't suggest that the welsh were unreliable--it just suggested that wales was a good place to hide from creditors. Which was probably true then, and maybe still is true now.
It is generally considered offensive now.
http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/72806/are-the-terms-welsh-or-welch-as-in-reneging-on-a-bet-derogatory-toward-the
Only by the people who have an apoplexy if you use the word niggardly.
Um .. the original usage of "welsh" the verb implies people who live in Wales, or at least some subset of them, are debtors who ran away to hide from their creditors. How is that not derogatory towards people who live in Wales aka Welsh people?
Anonymous
05/15/2019 16:22
Subject: Re:S/O Is "chop chop" offensive?
https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2014/02/20/280186897/quick-what-are-the-origins-of-chop-chop
No. I don't think it's offensive.
No. I don't think it's offensive.
Anonymous
05/15/2019 16:19
Subject: S/O Is "chop chop" offensive?
Huh?
Anonymous
05/15/2019 16:17
Subject: Re:S/O Is "chop chop" offensive?
I had no idea chop chop had anything do to with any racial anything.
But, that's not saying much. I had no idea "welshing" had anything to do with Welsh. Primarily because I had always heard it said "welch" and never related it to any group of people.
But, that's not saying much. I had no idea "welshing" had anything to do with Welsh. Primarily because I had always heard it said "welch" and never related it to any group of people.
Anonymous
05/15/2019 16:13
Subject: S/O Is "chop chop" offensive?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Totally depends on the context. If it's said seriously or with a certain tone, absolutely.
(Not Asian)
I have no idea what you mean. Offensive when said seriously or with a certain tone? What tone?
Welshing on a deal - offensive. Saying Chop chop to mean hurry, why would this be offensive?
I just looked up "welsh" and it's not anti-welsh. It refers to a practice common in 18th century England where englishman would run off to wales to avoid debts (especially bookies that wanted to avoid paying on bets). So it didn't suggest that the welsh were unreliable--it just suggested that wales was a good place to hide from creditors. Which was probably true then, and maybe still is true now.
It is generally considered offensive now.
http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/72806/are-the-terms-welsh-or-welch-as-in-reneging-on-a-bet-derogatory-toward-the
Only by the people who have an apoplexy if you use the word niggardly.
Anonymous
05/15/2019 16:08
Subject: S/O Is "chop chop" offensive?
Is this? I use this all the time with my toddlers. They like it. They go up stairs squealing "chop chop."