Anonymous
03/15/2017 23:16
Subject: Parents of conservative students...
I recommend Princeton. There has always been at least a small group of conservative students there, and Professor Robert George is a model of civil discourse. Even as a well-known conservative professor, he seems to be respected by all.
Anonymous
03/15/2017 10:05
Subject: Parents of conservative students...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:U'Chicago is extremely liberal. It is not an ideal place for a conservative. Source- a good friend who attends there right now. Yes, they made the stance about safe spaces and such, but most students don't agree with it. There was an out-lash by students against it, actually, who felt that it was threatening marginalized groups.
You'll find groups of conservatives at U'Chicago and all of the Ivies, but it is disingenuous to claim U'Chicago is something its university peers are not.
If conservative students need the entire student body to agree with them in order to feel comfortable, then who is being the snowflake? For conservative students who walk the walk the goal shouldn't be finding a comfortable campus, but rather a campus where their ideas will be taken seriously and faculty will support and challenge them to refine their ideas and engage with peers across the political spectrum.
You'll find people willing to engage and those not willing to engage at every top school in the country. U'Chicago isn't anything special.
Anonymous
03/15/2017 07:59
Subject: Parents of conservative students...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:U'Chicago is extremely liberal. It is not an ideal place for a conservative. Source- a good friend who attends there right now. Yes, they made the stance about safe spaces and such, but most students don't agree with it. There was an out-lash by students against it, actually, who felt that it was threatening marginalized groups.
You'll find groups of conservatives at U'Chicago and all of the Ivies, but it is disingenuous to claim U'Chicago is something its university peers are not.
If conservative students need the entire student body to agree with them in order to feel comfortable, then who is being the snowflake? For conservative students who walk the walk the goal shouldn't be finding a comfortable campus, but rather a campus where their ideas will be taken seriously and faculty will support and challenge them to refine their ideas and engage with peers across the political spectrum.
This. Right here.
I went to an extremely liberal SUNY school in the 80s and I swear I was the only student there who voted for Reagan. Had a "Reagan-Bush" sticker on my door and everything. Nevertheless, I thoroughly enjoyed my time there and didn't experience the animosity that's more common on campuses nowadays.
Anonymous
03/15/2017 07:52
Subject: Parents of conservative students...
Anonymous wrote:U'Chicago is extremely liberal. It is not an ideal place for a conservative. Source- a good friend who attends there right now. Yes, they made the stance about safe spaces and such, but most students don't agree with it. There was an out-lash by students against it, actually, who felt that it was threatening marginalized groups.
You'll find groups of conservatives at U'Chicago and all of the Ivies, but it is disingenuous to claim U'Chicago is something its university peers are not.
If conservative students need the entire student body to agree with them in order to feel comfortable, then who is being the snowflake? For conservative students who walk the walk the goal shouldn't be finding a comfortable campus, but rather a campus where their ideas will be taken seriously and faculty will support and challenge them to refine their ideas and engage with peers across the political spectrum.
Anonymous
03/14/2017 12:46
Subject: Parents of conservative students...
Maybe that's true, but at least from media reports the liberals are less aggressively activist than at some other schools
Anonymous
03/14/2017 07:33
Subject: Parents of conservative students...
U'Chicago is extremely liberal. It is not an ideal place for a conservative. Source- a good friend who attends there right now. Yes, they made the stance about safe spaces and such, but most students don't agree with it. There was an out-lash by students against it, actually, who felt that it was threatening marginalized groups.
You'll find groups of conservatives at U'Chicago and all of the Ivies, but it is disingenuous to claim U'Chicago is something its university peers are not.
You'll find groups of conservatives at U'Chicago and all of the Ivies, but it is disingenuous to claim U'Chicago is something its university peers are not.
Anonymous
03/14/2017 03:30
Subject: Parents of conservative students...
My daughter has applied to two schools on that list. Hopefully, that will break her out of our blue state bubble and get her to see things in a way she often does not because of the reinforcing views of her liberal friends and liberal schoolteachers. FWIW, my politics are generally liberal, but I also understand conservative viewpoints and on some occasions can even agree with them.
Anonymous
03/13/2017 21:05
Subject: Parents of conservative students...
Look at the election map by county. The county is likely influenced by college presence. Unless it's urban and it it's urban, it's much less likely to be conservative, unless religious.
Anonymous
03/13/2017 21:00
Subject: Parents of conservative students...
In some ways, I think Chicago has raised its profile and made itself more attractive to some applicants in recent years by not being quite as liberal as its ivy league peers.
Anonymous
03/13/2017 20:58
Subject: Parents of conservative students...
I agree. DC is at a different top ranked school and is happy, but it is far more liberal than we realized going into it and that has been somewhat limiting. I sometimes wonder whether he may have been happier and equally challenged intellectually at Chicago.
Anonymous
03/13/2017 20:56
Subject: Parents of conservative students...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you are out there in DCUM-land, what has your student experienced or observed on campus with respect to openness to, or at least tolerance of, conservative opinions?
Here ya go: https://www.niche.com/colleges/rankings/most-conservative-colleges/
That is a super sad list.
I think University of Chicago is a good choice for an intellectually-minded conservative student. While the campus isn't culturally conservative, students and faculty are so serious about ideas that they are willing to engage conservative students in a way that people at very liberal LACs are (often) not. And, you actually get an education unlike Backwoods College of the Biblical Truth and Ladies in Skirts.
^true that, but the acceptance rate is like 8 or 9 percent, So kinda a moot point for the vast huge majority of people who might be otherwise interested in that particular school.
Anonymous
03/13/2017 20:03
Subject: Parents of conservative students...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you are out there in DCUM-land, what has your student experienced or observed on campus with respect to openness to, or at least tolerance of, conservative opinions?
Here ya go: https://www.niche.com/colleges/rankings/most-conservative-colleges/
That is a super sad list.
I think University of Chicago is a good choice for an intellectually-minded conservative student. While the campus isn't culturally conservative, students and faculty are so serious about ideas that they are willing to engage conservative students in a way that people at very liberal LACs are (often) not. And, you actually get an education unlike Backwoods College of the Biblical Truth and Ladies in Skirts.
Anonymous
03/13/2017 19:35
Subject: Parents of conservative students...
Anonymous wrote:Hillsdale College in Michigan is going to become a highly selective LAC within five years. Watch.
I hope not.
Anonymous
03/13/2017 06:20
Subject: Re: Parents of conservative students...
History, unfortunately, doesn't bear out your theory.
Go back a century and you'll find many of the elite American campuses were very conservative places. Many were also quite snobby and elitist, with quotas keeping out the undesirables (Jews as a perfect example).
And intellectualism encompasses the entire political spectrum, from left to right.
Go back a century and you'll find many of the elite American campuses were very conservative places. Many were also quite snobby and elitist, with quotas keeping out the undesirables (Jews as a perfect example).
And intellectualism encompasses the entire political spectrum, from left to right.
Anonymous wrote:What we define as "conservative opinions" today are very rare on college campuses or university towns and always have been. Intellectuals, historically, have always been liberal thinkers.
That said, a good person will be accepted by good people anywhere. If your kid is a bigot, like so many Conservatives, he will likely have a very difficult time in college.
Anonymous
03/13/2017 01:26
Subject: Parents of conservative students...
Hillsdale has that DC program. It looks impressive.