Anonymous
Post 02/15/2021 08:58     Subject: Brick veneer instead of siding for addition onto brick house

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No, it isn't the cost. Siding (especially fiber cement) is just such a better product that it is the go to. It is water resistant (unlike brick), it has indicative qualities (unlike brick) and it requires little maintenance (unlike brick.) It is actually more expensive as a product, cheaper to install obviously.

But if you want brick and can match it perfectly, go for it.


Sour grapes? The only reason people don't use brick or natural stone is due to COST. Fiber siding is just that...siding and there are some issues now being revealed about issues with cement siding. To me, siding is siding, vinyl, wood, cement, whatever...

That’s dumb. Aesthetically, you may not like any type of siding but they are technically NOT the same. How in the heck is it sour grapes to point out the differences in sustainability and upkeep??
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2021 08:51     Subject: Brick veneer instead of siding for addition onto brick house

Anonymous wrote:Hardi is a combination of wood and cement fibers. It is fire resistant but NOT impervious to moisture or water intrusion . As one of the PPs stated, it falls apart when exposed to heavy moisture. We have hardi board on our home (siding, soffit, trim) and had to replace a large section resulting from moisture damage. Sadly the hardi board “limited” warranty did not cover the cost - all of these warranties are just BS. Personally, I wish we had opted to just install vinyl or aluminum siding - no moisture damage and we we would have saved close to $20k in total expense.


If you're getting moisture damage, then you have a problem beyond your siding, like needing to extend your roof, fix gutters, etc.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2021 12:27     Subject: Brick veneer instead of siding for addition onto brick house

Hardi is a combination of wood and cement fibers. It is fire resistant but NOT impervious to moisture or water intrusion . As one of the PPs stated, it falls apart when exposed to heavy moisture. We have hardi board on our home (siding, soffit, trim) and had to replace a large section resulting from moisture damage. Sadly the hardi board “limited” warranty did not cover the cost - all of these warranties are just BS. Personally, I wish we had opted to just install vinyl or aluminum siding - no moisture damage and we we would have saved close to $20k in total expense.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2021 11:08     Subject: Re:Brick veneer instead of siding for addition onto brick house

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I personally like the look of hardiboard siding especially when it is painted a nice color that complements the brick. I also like houses that are painted all over the same color (brick + siding). That can look really nice if done well. Brick additions can look good if done well but often there is a mismatch between old and new brick and that looks really bad to me. My eye goes right to the dividing line between old and new and I don't even notice anything else.



Not all siding is equal, and when trying to mach old brick with new brick siding it is bound to fail and just look like you did not have a good designer. Look at some siding additions on Houzz and you will find some nice ones. Just stay well away from the vinyl.


Vinyl siding is not the worst thing on earth. DCUM snobs are so obnoxious. Everyone on earth cannot afford Hardieplank siding or an all brick/stone house. Houses with vinyl siding are not all terrible.


+1 I am as snobby as they come and could care less if the house has vinyl or hardi on some parts of it. I mean have you looked at hardi, it's basically plastic made to look like wood, which to me is worse than vinyl which at least isn't trying to be something it's not. My DH, our architect, and everyone under the sun is insisting we replace all our vinyl (which has been on the house since god knows when, completely problem and maintenance free) with hardi and I'm all, well I'd much rather use that money to do inset cabinets in the kitchen....

But anyway, I'm going back and forth on our one-story addition in hardi or brick, I think brick because we are going with turf for our small soggy backyard, so plastic planks and plastic grass might be a bridge too far. For the front facade I'd love to use the bricks they are taking off the back and reuse them so at least in the front it's a perfect match. We won't need a lot of bricks, just two small vertical sections and about under the windows. I think I may push for that, despite the costs... but if it's 10k maybe not.


Either you don't know what plastic is or you have never held hardiplank, because hardi is most certainly not 'basically plastic.'
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2021 08:25     Subject: Re:Brick veneer instead of siding for addition onto brick house

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I personally like the look of hardiboard siding especially when it is painted a nice color that complements the brick. I also like houses that are painted all over the same color (brick + siding). That can look really nice if done well. Brick additions can look good if done well but often there is a mismatch between old and new brick and that looks really bad to me. My eye goes right to the dividing line between old and new and I don't even notice anything else.



Not all siding is equal, and when trying to mach old brick with new brick siding it is bound to fail and just look like you did not have a good designer. Look at some siding additions on Houzz and you will find some nice ones. Just stay well away from the vinyl.


Vinyl siding is not the worst thing on earth. DCUM snobs are so obnoxious. Everyone on earth cannot afford Hardieplank siding or an all brick/stone house. Houses with vinyl siding are not all terrible.


+1 I am as snobby as they come and could care less if the house has vinyl or hardi on some parts of it. I mean have you looked at hardi, it's basically plastic made to look like wood, which to me is worse than vinyl which at least isn't trying to be something it's not. My DH, our architect, and everyone under the sun is insisting we replace all our vinyl (which has been on the house since god knows when, completely problem and maintenance free) with hardi and I'm all, well I'd much rather use that money to do inset cabinets in the kitchen....

But anyway, I'm going back and forth on our one-story addition in hardi or brick, I think brick because we are going with turf for our small soggy backyard, so plastic planks and plastic grass might be a bridge too far. For the front facade I'd love to use the bricks they are taking off the back and reuse them so at least in the front it's a perfect match. We won't need a lot of bricks, just two small vertical sections and about under the windows. I think I may push for that, despite the costs... but if it's 10k maybe not.
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2021 21:22     Subject: Re:Brick veneer instead of siding for addition onto brick house

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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Builder, a question. We currently have brick and stone veneer. Brick for the main house and stone for the 1970s addition. We really don't like the stone part, is it possible get that (relatively) easily replaced with brick or will the cost/trouble out way the ultimate look?



Builder here again. You can remove the stone veneer and reinstall brick. The challenge will be to match the brick on the two sections. You can also paint the entire brick exterior, but i dont advise painting brick EVER. There are many reasons not to paint exterior brick veneer so will not go into it right now.


I've heard this before, but what is the reasoning? I've been wanting to paint our exterior white, but if it's a bad idea, would pass.


Builder again. More particular with newer brick veneer homes, the building envelope is constructed very tight so breatheability of the wall assembly is even more critical. When you paint brick, you essentially create a vapor barrier which prevents vapor(moisture) buildup between wall assembly to pass through to the outside thereby allowing the wall cavity to dry out. Brick veneer is designed to breathe and vapor passes through brick...retarding it is not good thing. This contributes to mold growth inside the wall cavity which contributes to unhealthy indoor air quality, not to mention rot, mold and mildew. I would not mess with it.


Builder: can you please share your thoughts on the cost of a 300 sqft addition sitting on some sort of pillars? So it’s second story, on the back. Make it more like sunroom style. Lots of windows. It can be a box, no need for fancy architecture, but a lot of windows: maybe 10.

Thanks in advance.
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2021 20:06     Subject: Brick veneer instead of siding for addition onto brick house

Any recent quotes for brick versus siding?
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2021 19:14     Subject: Brick veneer instead of siding for addition onto brick house

FYI from what I understand, painted brick requires a good deal of maintenance. I love the look of it but I’m a low-maintenance person so I wouldn’t choose it.
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2021 19:11     Subject: Brick veneer instead of siding for addition onto brick house

Omg a builder entered the chat, what luck!
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2021 19:05     Subject: Re:Brick veneer instead of siding for addition onto brick house

Anonymous wrote:I loathe brick houses with siding additions. It's my house pet peeve. If you can pay extra to avoid it, it's worth it.


+ 1

Me too. I am ok with all sidings or all brick. Unfortunately, my own house has brick front and sidings all around. When the house was being built it would have taken 5K for each side to have it converted to a brick veneer. We were so broke at that time that we did not get it done. It has bothered me since and we have lived 20 years in our home.