Anonymous
Post 12/28/2016 14:19     Subject: The amount of scooters at Disney is out of control.
So your attempt at badly disguised fat shaming thread didn't go exactly as you planned, did it OP?
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2016 14:17     Subject: Re:The amount of scooters at Disney is out of control.
The only perk I saw was for boarding resort buses. If you had a scooter in your party you went to the front of the line. They really need to fix that process too. I understand that they have to load the scooters first, but if your party is in the next group, they should load the scooter. Scooter parties shouldn't get to cut in front of everyone else who has been waiting.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2016 14:07     Subject: The amount of scooters at Disney is out of control.
I understand the OP. I'm inclined to judge too because I know a person who was a faker at the parks because of the ability to jump lines. If that's not the case anymore, then good. But if there are any "perks" then it creates a bad incentive system.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2016 14:07     Subject: The amount of scooters at Disney is out of control.
Anonymous wrote:To get a disability pass, you have to prove to them that you are disabled and its not easy. We got one a few years ago for our child. They gave us a hard time. I offered his evaluation and they refused it. I then said talk to my kid and they gave it right away. Its not as easy as you think.

I was thrilled to see the scooters out. Most were not riding the rides but there with kids/grandkids. That is one of the reasons to go is the accessibility and I'm happy to be inconvenienced over something like that.


This thread is not about disability passes which are completely different. This thread is also not about bashing disabled people. It's about an overuse of scooters.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2016 13:54     Subject: The amount of scooters at Disney is out of control.
Anonymous wrote:My mother looks perfectly healthy but is undergoing chemo and can't walk more than 10' before getting winded. We had the trip scheduled months before she was diagnosed. How about not judging others?


+1
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2016 13:52     Subject: The amount of scooters at Disney is out of control.
My mother looks perfectly healthy but is undergoing chemo and can't walk more than 10' before getting winded. We had the trip scheduled months before she was diagnosed. How about not judging others?
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2016 13:48     Subject: The amount of scooters at Disney is out of control.
To get a disability pass, you have to prove to them that you are disabled and its not easy. We got one a few years ago for our child. They gave us a hard time. I offered his evaluation and they refused it. I then said talk to my kid and they gave it right away. Its not as easy as you think.

I was thrilled to see the scooters out. Most were not riding the rides but there with kids/grandkids. That is one of the reasons to go is the accessibility and I'm happy to be inconvenienced over something like that.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2016 13:46     Subject: Re:The amount of scooters at Disney is out of control.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As someone who works with people with disabilities, I can tell you that what a Disney does for accessibility is unparalleled. Many families who could not manage a trip to the beach or almost any other popular vacation destination because of disabilities, can handle Disney.

As a result, many families where one member has a physical disability choose a Disney for repeated trips. The result is more scooters.


I can tell you that not all of these people were physically disabled. I am 100% certain of that.


You've seen the X-rays of their knees? And the results of their latest EKG's? How can you possibly know this?

-- someone with arthritis of the knees who can manage well enough walking and going upstairs to look just fine, but has severe pain with extended standing still and going downstairs that I would use a scooter at Disney.

OK, we got it. PP is saying that not all are physically disabled and I have to agree.


Um whether you want to call that a disability, someone decided they know their own body better than you do, and they will fork out the money and embarassment and annoyance of driving and parking, so they will be able to do multiple parks with their children or grandchildren.
My mom has a handicap tag. She has no disability. However, her legs may spontaneously break at any moment. Yeah, not disabled, but do you really think we want her walking miles and miles at Disney, when she can break a leg while standing in her own kitchen? No.

Anonymous
Post 12/28/2016 13:38     Subject: Re:The amount of scooters at Disney is out of control.
Okay, if the consensus is that ALL of those using scooters have a real need, let's talk about another variation on the same theme:

The number of grown kids (6+ and all the way up to what looks about age 9 or 10) who ride around in strollers. It is mind blowing. If one ever wondered why we have a childhood obesity epidemic, they should go to Disney and wonder no more.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2016 13:24     Subject: Re:The amount of scooters at Disney is out of control.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As someone who works with people with disabilities, I can tell you that what a Disney does for accessibility is unparalleled. Many families who could not manage a trip to the beach or almost any other popular vacation destination because of disabilities, can handle Disney.

As a result, many families where one member has a physical disability choose a Disney for repeated trips. The result is more scooters.


I can tell you that not all of these people were physically disabled. I am 100% certain of that.


You've seen the X-rays of their knees? And the results of their latest EKG's? How can you possibly know this?

-- someone with arthritis of the knees who can manage well enough walking and going upstairs to look just fine, but has severe pain with extended standing still and going downstairs that I would use a scooter at Disney.

OK, we got it. PP is saying that not all are physically disabled and I have to agree.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2016 13:24     Subject: The amount of scooters at Disney is out of control.
Anonymous wrote:My no was one in the fall.

I can tell you I don't think anyone would get one without needing it.

First, it's $50.
Second, you have to concern yourself over where to park it throughout the day. Restaurants, rides, lengthy time spent in one area.
Third, it moves slower than walking because the crowds don't budge for you.
Fourth, many people including my mom were a tiny bit embarrassed by it.
Fifth, it's not easy to use the train as transport. Sure, you can ride it all the way around... You have a chair, but some people in your group may want to use the train.


Also it no longer helps you ride rides faster. With the advent of fast pass, those days are over.

It got us fast on one ride--it's a small world. And that might have been due to the combo of scooter + rain. Or that's such an old ride and they're not quite at wheelchair/scooter friendly.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2016 13:22     Subject: The amount of scooters at Disney is out of control.
^mom. That was a weird autocorrect.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2016 13:21     Subject: The amount of scooters at Disney is out of control.
My no was one in the fall.

I can tell you I don't think anyone would get one without needing it.

First, it's $50.
Second, you have to concern yourself over where to park it throughout the day. Restaurants, rides, lengthy time spent in one area.
Third, it moves slower than walking because the crowds don't budge for you.
Fourth, many people including my mom were a tiny bit embarrassed by it.
Fifth, it's not easy to use the train as transport. Sure, you can ride it all the way around... You have a chair, but some people in your group may want to use the train.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2016 13:20     Subject: The amount of scooters at Disney is out of control.
Anonymous wrote:

Look, you're all correct!

A, more people need mobility assistance than you might think.
B, there are some people who could benefit from actual walking and exercise who choose not to do this.

So let it rest and be careful with those darn scooters.


How about

C) the many people who stay home because our society teaches them that using mobility aids is shameful rather than freeing, who could be enjoying an experience, and contributing to the economy but don't because of assholes like the OP.

D) the people who walk rather than rode because of that stigma, at a high cost in terms of pain and possible joint damage (and who end up stopping over and over again on the sidewalks because of it)
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2016 13:14     Subject: The amount of scooters at Disney is out of control.


Look, you're all correct!

A, more people need mobility assistance than you might think.
B, there are some people who could benefit from actual walking and exercise who choose not to do this.

So let it rest and be careful with those darn scooters.