Anonymous
12/17/2016 20:20
Subject: Re:Give me an old money neighborhood.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think "old money" neighborhoods exist anymore.
I did grow up in a neighborhood that was classified as "old money" even back then but times were also different. It was an age of the Wasp hegemony. Social registers, private clubs, "coming out" debutantes, everyone had gone to the same handful of colleges and schools. My childhood neighborhood is still just as affluent as it ever was but it's no longer the Wasp bastion it once was. There are still Waspy families but there are now many other people too. There's no neat replica today of those kinds of neighborhoods you found in every American city up through the 1970s.
This. Plus there isn't the level of discrimination that existed years ago. Previously Jews couldn't even move into these neighborhoods. Now you just need to be able to afford the house.
Jews couldn't move into SOME of these neighborhoods. This is America, being Jewish <> being black. If you are from these communities you know there are plenty of old money Jews.
And if you are old money you know how Jews were discriminated against. Just not as overtly as discrimination against blacks.
It was about more than just being 'less overt'. Jews were free to do many things blacks weren't. Of course, identity-based treatment of people has been an issue since the dawn of time and still causes problems today. Just know that not everything was off limits to Jews.
-a poster with ancestors of both WASP and Jewish extraction who were rich in Antebellum America.
Anonymous
12/17/2016 20:13
Subject: Re:Give me an old money neighborhood.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think "old money" neighborhoods exist anymore.
I did grow up in a neighborhood that was classified as "old money" even back then but times were also different. It was an age of the Wasp hegemony. Social registers, private clubs, "coming out" debutantes, everyone had gone to the same handful of colleges and schools. My childhood neighborhood is still just as affluent as it ever was but it's no longer the Wasp bastion it once was. There are still Waspy families but there are now many other people too. There's no neat replica today of those kinds of neighborhoods you found in every American city up through the 1970s.
This. Plus there isn't the level of discrimination that existed years ago. Previously Jews couldn't even move into these neighborhoods. Now you just need to be able to afford the house.
Jews couldn't move into SOME of these neighborhoods. This is America, being Jewish <> being black. If you are from these communities you know there are plenty of old money Jews.
A lot of neighborhoods, including some of the ones mentioned in this thread, had housing covenants that excluded both Jews and blacks.
Anonymous
12/17/2016 20:06
Subject: Re:Give me an old money neighborhood.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think "old money" neighborhoods exist anymore.
I did grow up in a neighborhood that was classified as "old money" even back then but times were also different. It was an age of the Wasp hegemony. Social registers, private clubs, "coming out" debutantes, everyone had gone to the same handful of colleges and schools. My childhood neighborhood is still just as affluent as it ever was but it's no longer the Wasp bastion it once was. There are still Waspy families but there are now many other people too. There's no neat replica today of those kinds of neighborhoods you found in every American city up through the 1970s.
This. Plus there isn't the level of discrimination that existed years ago. Previously Jews couldn't even move into these neighborhoods. Now you just need to be able to afford the house.
In other words, nostalgia for "old money" neighborhoods is often thinly disguised racism and anti-semitism.
OP is Jewish?
Anonymous
12/17/2016 20:03
Subject: Give me an old money neighborhood.
Anonymous wrote:If you have to ask where the old money neighborhoods are, your money is too new.
You've never heard of an out of towner moving to the DC area? Whose the sheltered one now?
Anonymous
12/17/2016 20:01
Subject: Give me an old money neighborhood.
Anonymous wrote:Price is not really an issue, but I don't want to live next to the new money types in Potomac.
Thanks.
Martin's Additions
Anonymous
12/17/2016 19:56
Subject: Re:Give me an old money neighborhood.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think "old money" neighborhoods exist anymore.
I did grow up in a neighborhood that was classified as "old money" even back then but times were also different. It was an age of the Wasp hegemony. Social registers, private clubs, "coming out" debutantes, everyone had gone to the same handful of colleges and schools. My childhood neighborhood is still just as affluent as it ever was but it's no longer the Wasp bastion it once was. There are still Waspy families but there are now many other people too. There's no neat replica today of those kinds of neighborhoods you found in every American city up through the 1970s.
This. Plus there isn't the level of discrimination that existed years ago. Previously Jews couldn't even move into these neighborhoods. Now you just need to be able to afford the house.
Jews couldn't move into SOME of these neighborhoods. This is America, being Jewish <> being black. If you are from these communities you know there are plenty of old money Jews.
And if you are old money you know how Jews were discriminated against. Just not as overtly as discrimination against blacks.
Was pretty overt given that certain country clubs wouldn't admit them.
Anonymous
12/17/2016 19:49
Subject: Re:Give me an old money neighborhood.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think "old money" neighborhoods exist anymore.
I did grow up in a neighborhood that was classified as "old money" even back then but times were also different. It was an age of the Wasp hegemony. Social registers, private clubs, "coming out" debutantes, everyone had gone to the same handful of colleges and schools. My childhood neighborhood is still just as affluent as it ever was but it's no longer the Wasp bastion it once was. There are still Waspy families but there are now many other people too. There's no neat replica today of those kinds of neighborhoods you found in every American city up through the 1970s.
This. Plus there isn't the level of discrimination that existed years ago. Previously Jews couldn't even move into these neighborhoods. Now you just need to be able to afford the house.
Jews couldn't move into SOME of these neighborhoods. This is America, being Jewish <> being black. If you are from these communities you know there are plenty of old money Jews.
And if you are old money you know how Jews were discriminated against. Just not as overtly as discrimination against blacks.
Anonymous
12/17/2016 19:47
Subject: Give me an old money neighborhood.
You're either delusional or a trollAnonymous wrote:Gold coast
Anonymous
12/17/2016 14:50
Subject: Give me an old money neighborhood.
Gold coast
Anonymous
12/17/2016 14:20
Subject: Re:Give me an old money neighborhood.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think "old money" neighborhoods exist anymore.
I did grow up in a neighborhood that was classified as "old money" even back then but times were also different. It was an age of the Wasp hegemony. Social registers, private clubs, "coming out" debutantes, everyone had gone to the same handful of colleges and schools. My childhood neighborhood is still just as affluent as it ever was but it's no longer the Wasp bastion it once was. There are still Waspy families but there are now many other people too. There's no neat replica today of those kinds of neighborhoods you found in every American city up through the 1970s.
This. Plus there isn't the level of discrimination that existed years ago. Previously Jews couldn't even move into these neighborhoods. Now you just need to be able to afford the house.
In other words, nostalgia for "old money" neighborhoods is often thinly disguised racism and anti-semitism.
Anonymous
12/17/2016 14:18
Subject: Re:Give me an old money neighborhood.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think "old money" neighborhoods exist anymore.
I did grow up in a neighborhood that was classified as "old money" even back then but times were also different. It was an age of the Wasp hegemony. Social registers, private clubs, "coming out" debutantes, everyone had gone to the same handful of colleges and schools. My childhood neighborhood is still just as affluent as it ever was but it's no longer the Wasp bastion it once was. There are still Waspy families but there are now many other people too. There's no neat replica today of those kinds of neighborhoods you found in every American city up through the 1970s.
This. Plus there isn't the level of discrimination that existed years ago. Previously Jews couldn't even move into these neighborhoods. Now you just need to be able to afford the house.
Jews couldn't move into SOME of these neighborhoods. This is America, being Jewish <> being black. If you are from these communities you know there are plenty of old money Jews.
Anonymous
12/17/2016 14:08
Subject: Re:Give me an old money neighborhood.
Anonymous wrote:I don't think "old money" neighborhoods exist anymore.
I did grow up in a neighborhood that was classified as "old money" even back then but times were also different. It was an age of the Wasp hegemony. Social registers, private clubs, "coming out" debutantes, everyone had gone to the same handful of colleges and schools. My childhood neighborhood is still just as affluent as it ever was but it's no longer the Wasp bastion it once was. There are still Waspy families but there are now many other people too. There's no neat replica today of those kinds of neighborhoods you found in every American city up through the 1970s.
This. Plus there isn't the level of discrimination that existed years ago. Previously Jews couldn't even move into these neighborhoods. Now you just need to be able to afford the house.
Anonymous
12/17/2016 14:01
Subject: Re:Give me an old money neighborhood.
Anonymous wrote:I don't think "old money" neighborhoods exist anymore.
I did grow up in a neighborhood that was classified as "old money" even back then but times were also different. It was an age of the Wasp hegemony. Social registers, private clubs, "coming out" debutantes, everyone had gone to the same handful of colleges and schools. My childhood neighborhood is still just as affluent as it ever was but it's no longer the Wasp bastion it once was. There are still Waspy families but there are now many other people too. There's no neat replica today of those kinds of neighborhoods you found in every American city up through the 1970s.
Yup. All of the "old money" areas around here will be ones with just a larger substantial minority of those folks. Given the explosion in elites in the past few decades, the math just doesn't add up for it to be any other way. Places that cling to the 'old money' area moniker, like the Main Line outside Philadelphia, keep it because no one has wanted to move to those areas for decades.
Anonymous
12/17/2016 14:00
Subject: Give me an old money neighborhood.
Chevy Chase
Kalorama
Kalorama
Anonymous
12/17/2016 13:45
Subject: Re:Give me an old money neighborhood.
I don't think "old money" neighborhoods exist anymore.
I did grow up in a neighborhood that was classified as "old money" even back then but times were also different. It was an age of the Wasp hegemony. Social registers, private clubs, "coming out" debutantes, everyone had gone to the same handful of colleges and schools. My childhood neighborhood is still just as affluent as it ever was but it's no longer the Wasp bastion it once was. There are still Waspy families but there are now many other people too. There's no neat replica today of those kinds of neighborhoods you found in every American city up through the 1970s.
I did grow up in a neighborhood that was classified as "old money" even back then but times were also different. It was an age of the Wasp hegemony. Social registers, private clubs, "coming out" debutantes, everyone had gone to the same handful of colleges and schools. My childhood neighborhood is still just as affluent as it ever was but it's no longer the Wasp bastion it once was. There are still Waspy families but there are now many other people too. There's no neat replica today of those kinds of neighborhoods you found in every American city up through the 1970s.