Anonymous
11/12/2016 20:42
Subject: If you agree with the Electoral College, you agree with Slavery
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
It is that simple. This is a great test to see if someone is racist or not. Ask if they agree with the EC. If they do, then you know the answer.
Just curious, if Hillary Clinton had won the Electoral College vote would you make your statement?
Not PP. But I am principally against an antiquated Electoral College rooted in racism. Because this is so undemocratic that it invalidates CA or NY votes. How is it fair to disenfranchise the largest state in the union? The senate is there to voice for the small states. The big states are a literally voiceless because 1 WY vote = 4 CA votes.
How does that portion of your statement work by the way? I am genuinely asking. Is there a maximum cap on how many electoral college votes a state can have no matter their population size? I thought each state was given a vote based on the number of residents residing within each state except for the smaller ones which get 3 automatically?
No. Wy with a population of 550000 gets 3 EC votes which is the minimum any state should get. But ND with a population of 750,000 also gets 3 EC votes. So they are allocated on a range. So it doesn't matter you win ND with about 200,000 more votes you still get only 3EC votes. Wait it gets much worse, CA gets only 55 EC votes despite having a population of 35Million.
The senate has 2 seats no matter the population of the state. Fine,, senate was designed so the small state gets a voice at the table. But then why should a DIRECT ELECTING presidential election also skew the vote to the small WY over CA? A CA vote is literally worthless compared to a WY vote. CA is the largest state in the union but is the most disenfranchised in the union.
Anonymous
11/12/2016 20:38
Subject: If you agree with the Electoral College, you agree with Slavery
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope you are as passionate and vocal when Trump goes after the First Amendment.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Omg enough already you sore loser libs. Go away. Go start working on your dumbass "mail safety pins to trump" campaign. YOU. LOST.
As a liberal, I am embarrassed with this whining.
If the electoral college is not the way to go - and the popular vote is more fair - then work to get it changed. But the EC has been the criteria since the founding of this country and certainly since we broke away from England so it is the method of deciding elections until the constitution is amended.
As a liberal, I am embarrassed with his whining about his suing the press and everyone who says bad things about him.
I welcome your voice to support the Constitution on this matter.
I have an issue with anyone who breaks the law or seeks to violate the constitution - whether it is the 1st Amendment or any other amendment. I don't care if it is Trump or anyone else.
I support the right of people to protest against Trump - I don't support it when they choose to break the law and cause property damage or physical injury. I don't have double standards when it comes to following the law.
For the most part the demonstrations have been peaceful. But the Trump people have no mandate when he lost the majority vote by a million votes. That is the issue here. There is no mandate and don't act like you have one.
What does it matter whether anyone says Trump has a mandate? If he can get legislation passed that accomplishes a conservative agenda that is what matters. He could have won the popular vote by 10 million votes but if he is not able to get legislation passed it does not make a bit of difference - mandate or no mandate.
Anonymous
11/12/2016 20:35
Subject: If you agree with the Electoral College, you agree with Slavery
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope you are as passionate and vocal when Trump goes after the First Amendment.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Omg enough already you sore loser libs. Go away. Go start working on your dumbass "mail safety pins to trump" campaign. YOU. LOST.
As a liberal, I am embarrassed with this whining.
If the electoral college is not the way to go - and the popular vote is more fair - then work to get it changed. But the EC has been the criteria since the founding of this country and certainly since we broke away from England so it is the method of deciding elections until the constitution is amended.
As a liberal, I am embarrassed with his whining about his suing the press and everyone who says bad things about him.
I welcome your voice to support the Constitution on this matter.
I have an issue with anyone who breaks the law or seeks to violate the constitution - whether it is the 1st Amendment or any other amendment. I don't care if it is Trump or anyone else.
I support the right of people to protest against Trump - I don't support it when they choose to break the law and cause property damage or physical injury. I don't have double standards when it comes to following the law.
For the most part the demonstrations have been peaceful. But the Trump people have no mandate when he lost the majority vote by a million votes. That is the issue here. There is no mandate and don't act like you have one.
What do you want Republicans or Trumps to do to "act like" there is no mandate? Say those words? Is that all you want? For Trump to say, "I won by the way elections are won in the US, but I realize more people didn't vote for me than did?" Wouldn't that be stating the obvious? But if that's all it would take....though I doubt it.
Anonymous
11/12/2016 20:32
Subject: If you agree with the Electoral College, you agree with Slavery
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:http://time.com/4558510/electoral-college-history-slavery/
It is that simple. This is a great test to see if someone is racist or not. Ask if they agree with the EC. If they do, then you know the answer.
Just curious, if Hillary Clinton had won the Electoral College vote would you make your statement?
Not PP. But I am principally against an antiquated Electoral College rooted in racism. Because this is so undemocratic that it invalidates CA or NY votes. How is it fair to disenfranchise the largest state in the union? The senate is there to voice for the small states. The big states are a literally voiceless because 1 WY vote = 4 CA votes.
Okay, Not PP. The same question. If Hillary Clinton had won the Electoral College vote would you make your statement?
Anonymous
11/12/2016 20:31
Subject: If you agree with the Electoral College, you agree with Slavery
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope you are as passionate and vocal when Trump goes after the First Amendment.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Omg enough already you sore loser libs. Go away. Go start working on your dumbass "mail safety pins to trump" campaign. YOU. LOST.
As a liberal, I am embarrassed with this whining.
If the electoral college is not the way to go - and the popular vote is more fair - then work to get it changed. But the EC has been the criteria since the founding of this country and certainly since we broke away from England so it is the method of deciding elections until the constitution is amended.
As a liberal, I am embarrassed with his whining about his suing the press and everyone who says bad things about him.
I welcome your voice to support the Constitution on this matter.
I have an issue with anyone who breaks the law or seeks to violate the constitution - whether it is the 1st Amendment or any other amendment. I don't care if it is Trump or anyone else.
I support the right of people to protest against Trump - I don't support it when they choose to break the law and cause property damage or physical injury. I don't have double standards when it comes to following the law.
For the most part the demonstrations have been peaceful. But the Trump people have no mandate when he lost the majority vote by a million votes. That is the issue here. There is no mandate and don't act like you have one.
Anonymous
11/12/2016 20:30
Subject: If you agree with the Electoral College, you agree with Slavery
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
It is that simple. This is a great test to see if someone is racist or not. Ask if they agree with the EC. If they do, then you know the answer.
Just curious, if Hillary Clinton had won the Electoral College vote would you make your statement?
Not PP. But I am principally against an antiquated Electoral College rooted in racism. Because this is so undemocratic that it invalidates CA or NY votes. How is it fair to disenfranchise the largest state in the union? The senate is there to voice for the small states. The big states are a literally voiceless because 1 WY vote = 4 CA votes.
How does that portion of your statement work by the way? I am genuinely asking. Is there a maximum cap on how many electoral college votes a state can have no matter their population size? I thought each state was given a vote based on the number of residents residing within each state except for the smaller ones which get 3 automatically?
Anonymous
11/12/2016 20:22
Subject: If you agree with the Electoral College, you agree with Slavery
Anonymous wrote:I hope you are as passionate and vocal when Trump goes after the First Amendment.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Omg enough already you sore loser libs. Go away. Go start working on your dumbass "mail safety pins to trump" campaign. YOU. LOST.
As a liberal, I am embarrassed with this whining.
If the electoral college is not the way to go - and the popular vote is more fair - then work to get it changed. But the EC has been the criteria since the founding of this country and certainly since we broke away from England so it is the method of deciding elections until the constitution is amended.
As a liberal, I am embarrassed with his whining about his suing the press and everyone who says bad things about him.
I welcome your voice to support the Constitution on this matter.
I have an issue with anyone who breaks the law or seeks to violate the constitution - whether it is the 1st Amendment or any other amendment. I don't care if it is Trump or anyone else.
I support the right of people to protest against Trump - I don't support it when they choose to break the law and cause property damage or physical injury. I don't have double standards when it comes to following the law.
Anonymous
11/12/2016 20:16
Subject: Re:If you agree with the Electoral College, you agree with Slavery
I heard remarkably little discussion about the inequities of the EC system before the election.
In fact, all I heard from my fellow liberals was how we had multiple paths to 270 vs the Republicans and how demographic changes gave us a strong advantage.
This election is over ...... Trump was not my choice but you don't rewrite the rules after the event. And if you want it changed then fight to make it happen for the next election.
In fact, all I heard from my fellow liberals was how we had multiple paths to 270 vs the Republicans and how demographic changes gave us a strong advantage.
This election is over ...... Trump was not my choice but you don't rewrite the rules after the event. And if you want it changed then fight to make it happen for the next election.
Anonymous
11/12/2016 20:15
Subject: If you agree with the Electoral College, you agree with Slavery
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:http://time.com/4558510/electoral-college-history-slavery/
It is that simple. This is a great test to see if someone is racist or not. Ask if they agree with the EC. If they do, then you know the answer.
Just curious, if Hillary Clinton had won the Electoral College vote would you make your statement?
Not PP. But I am principally against an antiquated Electoral College rooted in racism. Because this is so undemocratic that it invalidates CA or NY votes. How is it fair to disenfranchise the largest state in the union? The senate is there to voice for the small states. The big states are a literally voiceless because 1 WY vote = 4 CA votes.
So, basically, you think the thinking, votes, and ideas or the people of California and New York should rule the country?
Anonymous
11/12/2016 20:14
Subject: If you agree with the Electoral College, you agree with Slavery
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:http://time.com/4558510/electoral-college-history-slavery/
It is that simple. This is a great test to see if someone is racist or not. Ask if they agree with the EC. If they do, then you know the answer.
Just curious, if Hillary Clinton had won the Electoral College vote would you make your statement?
Nooooooo! Wouldn't have been mentioned by OP.
Anonymous
11/12/2016 20:12
Subject: If you agree with the Electoral College, you agree with Slavery
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:http://time.com/4558510/electoral-college-history-slavery/
It is that simple. This is a great test to see if someone is racist or not. Ask if they agree with the EC. If they do, then you know the answer.
It doesn't matter if I "agree" with it. It's in the Constitution. That's the way it is.
Time has it exactly backwards. Of course they do.
Anonymous
11/12/2016 20:01
Subject: If you agree with the Electoral College, you agree with Slavery
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:http://time.com/4558510/electoral-college-history-slavery/
It is that simple. This is a great test to see if someone is racist or not. Ask if they agree with the EC. If they do, then you know the answer.
Just curious, if Hillary Clinton had won the Electoral College vote would you make your statement?
Not PP. But I am principally against an antiquated Electoral College rooted in racism. Because this is so undemocratic that it invalidates CA or NY votes. How is it fair to disenfranchise the largest state in the union? The senate is there to voice for the small states. The big states are a literally voiceless because 1 WY vote = 4 CA votes.
Anonymous
11/12/2016 19:41
Subject: If you agree with the Electoral College, you agree with Slavery
Anonymous wrote:http://time.com/4558510/electoral-college-history-slavery/
It is that simple. This is a great test to see if someone is racist or not. Ask if they agree with the EC. If they do, then you know the answer.
Just curious, if Hillary Clinton had won the Electoral College vote would you make your statement?
Anonymous
11/12/2016 19:30
Subject: If you agree with the Electoral College, you agree with Slavery
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:http://time.com/4558510/electoral-college-history-slavery/
It is that simple. This is a great test to see if someone is racist or not. Ask if they agree with the EC. If they do, then you know the answer.
You're a moron, OP.
I disagree with the EC - always have. Popular vote should determine who's president.
However, half the American public doesn't ' know the difference between the American Revolution and the Industrial Revolution. You think they're giving big old high fives over the EC every four years?
This I agree with. OP, you think Average Americans are intelligent enough to have an academic discussion about the history and evolution of the Electoral College. Thats asking too much from people whose information comes from reality TV and most think knowing sports score is intelligence.
Anonymous
11/12/2016 19:26
Subject: If you agree with the Electoral College, you agree with Slavery
Anonymous wrote:http://time.com/4558510/electoral-college-history-slavery/
It is that simple. This is a great test to see if someone is racist or not. Ask if they agree with the EC. If they do, then you know the answer.
You're a moron, OP.
I disagree with the EC - always have. Popular vote should determine who's president.
However, half the American public doesn't ' know the difference between the American Revolution and the Industrial Revolution. You think they're giving big old high fives over the EC every four years?