Anonymous
Post 11/07/2016 16:04     Subject: Re:what big Division 1 state university would you attend?
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Anonymous wrote:Michigan and Wisconsin offer a fantastic overall experience. Great academics, locations, school spirit, diverse social opportunities, sports, arts, music, restaurants, and research opportunities. Both schools have a high percentage of out of state students which makes the student body more interesting.


Wisco only very recently voted to remove the cap on OOS. One should not compare Wisco's OOS population to Michigan.

Firstly, Michigan's is a LOT bigger and has been around for a lot longer.

Secondly, a lot of Wisco's OOS population is from states like MN where MN students get in-state rates at Wisco. When I was visiting madison for three days this summer, I ran into more Minnesotans than Wisconsinites (not a bad thing - minnesotans @ wisco are tall, lithe, blonde, attractive, smart, and liberal - awesome) - but I don't find that a great measure of 'national draw'.

Michigan has way more national and international draw and recognition than Wisco. It isn't close.

A fairer asssesment would be to see what % of students are regional students. So only county east coast, West, South, Montain West, and Intl students.




I was curious so I looked up the numbers for Wisconsin 2016 Freshmen
3,603 from Wisconsin
2,161 OOS. Of these 637 were from Minnesota. The next largest number of students were from Illinois, California, New York, Maryland, Massachusetts. (All 50 states)
626 International students.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2016 15:08     Subject: what big Division 1 state university would you attend?
If you want a big state school with a lot of international and east coast/west coast students, then Michigan is the way to go. Plus, it has a great academic and athletic reputation. It tends to be the go to school for many ivy league rejects but that's not really a bad thing (they tend to still be pretty smart). And, Ann Arbor is a great city that doesn't feel like you're buried in the Midwest because it draws people from all over.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2016 15:00     Subject: what big Division 1 state university would you attend?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I went to the University of Illinois. I am from Illinois, and I liked it just fine. Wasn't a Greek or an athlete, studied political science and generally enjoyed it.


+1. The college experience was excellent at University of Illinois. After my undergrad there, I got into a top 10 econ grad school program. Chicago is a huge hiring base for alumni (obviously), and DC is the 2nd largest base of alumni.


+1. Illinois is a top ten public (tied with Wisconsin at the moment). The advantage comes in getting hired in Chicago. I wouldn't go to Illinois with dreams of Wall Street, but it is a path to getting a well-paying gig in a major city.


So what's going on with the state budget and the University? Was the spring semester cut short due to lack of funding?


No cuts planned for the flagship Illinois yet. They're working on a 5 year funding plan, but the state is totally backwards.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2016 14:57     Subject: what big Division 1 state university would you attend?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I went to the University of Illinois. I am from Illinois, and I liked it just fine. Wasn't a Greek or an athlete, studied political science and generally enjoyed it.


+1. The college experience was excellent at University of Illinois. After my undergrad there, I got into a top 10 econ grad school program. Chicago is a huge hiring base for alumni (obviously), and DC is the 2nd largest base of alumni.


+1. Illinois is a top ten public (tied with Wisconsin at the moment). The advantage comes in getting hired in Chicago. I wouldn't go to Illinois with dreams of Wall Street, but it is a path to getting a well-paying gig in a major city.


So what's going on with the state budget and the University? Was the spring semester cut short due to lack of funding?
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2016 14:56     Subject: Re:what big Division 1 state university would you attend?
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Anonymous wrote:Some of the good ones are:

University of Texas - Austin
Wisconsin - Madison and Austin are my two favorite college cities
Penn State
Maryland
UVA
North Carolina
Oregon
Univ of Washington
Arizona
Arizona State


This list minus Zona and Zona St.


And minus Oregon.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2016 14:51     Subject: what big Division 1 state university would you attend?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I went to the University of Illinois. I am from Illinois, and I liked it just fine. Wasn't a Greek or an athlete, studied political science and generally enjoyed it.


+1. The college experience was excellent at University of Illinois. After my undergrad there, I got into a top 10 econ grad school program. Chicago is a huge hiring base for alumni (obviously), and DC is the 2nd largest base of alumni.


+1. Illinois is a top ten public (tied with Wisconsin at the moment). The advantage comes in getting hired in Chicago. I wouldn't go to Illinois with dreams of Wall Street, but it is a path to getting a well-paying gig in a major city.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2016 14:46     Subject: what big Division 1 state university would you attend?
Anonymous wrote:Cal is by far the best public U. But it still doesn't compare to the resources avail. at a top private.


They don't seem to have an issue w/ grad/phd programs. I realize we are talking about undergrad programs.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2016 14:43     Subject: what big Division 1 state university would you attend?
Cal is by far the best public U. But it still doesn't compare to the resources avail. at a top private.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2016 14:34     Subject: what big Division 1 state university would you attend?
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Anonymous wrote:My husband and I went to small liberal arts colleges but child wants the big, division 1 state university experience.
I realize this is a crazy broad question but which would be your number 1 choice to attend?


Is your child attracted to the diversity of academic offerings, to the college gameday experience (sorry UIUC, this isn't you unless Dee Brown comes back), to the anonymity, or other/all the above?



UIUC here. Not a sportsfan, so that would actually have been a selling point
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2016 14:33     Subject: what big Division 1 state university would you attend?
Indiana
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2016 14:30     Subject: what big Division 1 state university would you attend?
Anonymous wrote:My husband and I went to small liberal arts colleges but child wants the big, division 1 state university experience.
I realize this is a crazy broad question but which would be your number 1 choice to attend?


Is your child attracted to the diversity of academic offerings, to the college gameday experience (sorry UIUC, this isn't you unless Dee Brown comes back), to the anonymity, or other/all the above?

Anonymous
Post 11/07/2016 14:27     Subject: Re:what big Division 1 state university would you attend?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some of the good ones are:

University of Texas - Austin
Wisconsin - Madison and Austin are my two favorite college cities
Penn State
Maryland
UVA
North Carolina
Oregon
Univ of Washington
Arizona
Arizona State

This is basically the list, but I would throw out Penn State and the Arizona schools and add Michigan, Ohio State and some UC campuses (Berkeley, LA, SD, and SB).


AZ schools #60-61. Ok.
PSU #14 top public--ahead of OSU just slightly.
Add UM at #4.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2016 14:14     Subject: Re:what big Division 1 state university would you attend?
Anonymous wrote:Some of the good ones are:

University of Texas - Austin
Wisconsin - Madison and Austin are my two favorite college cities
Penn State
Maryland
UVA
North Carolina
Oregon
Univ of Washington
Arizona
Arizona State


This list minus Zona and Zona St.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2016 13:46     Subject: what big Division 1 state university would you attend?
We looked at Michigan, Berkeley, Wisconsin, and Washington for DD (prospective bio major). All had really appealing aspects, but Wisconsin would have been her clear first choice (had she not ended up going private instead). Interested in UCSD for grad school. (I think UCSD is in the midst of joining Div 1.)

Given your DD's interest in business, Michigan seems like a good fit. I think Ross has direct admit (for HS students) as well as an admissions process for UM freshmen.

Both the UCs and Wisconsin had me concerned about budget cuts and how that would impact access to majors and coursework (and, in Wisconsin's case, even about faculty retention).
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2016 13:16     Subject: what big Division 1 state university would you attend?
Several of my family members (we're from OH), went to OSU and loved it. It's not a bad drive from DC ... about 6 to 6.5 hours. I know a number of people from this area who have gone there...great school spirit. The guy who wrote Hillbilly Elegy, JD Vance, went there and ended up at Yale Law.