Anonymous wrote:daughter joined this year as a straight ally. Actually, she identifies as asexual.

She is having a great time with like minded kids. They want to advocate for themselves and speak up. They are doing so with staff guidance (health teacher).

it has been a positive experience.

They didn't have a group in their school last year, so I can tell you not all schools have one. This group of friends where some identify as gay advocated to have one on campus this year.

Total bullshit. A middle schooler can't possibly know if she is asexual.

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Anonymous wrote:Learning sex Ed is one thing, being encouraged young kids to label their sexuality before they've even gone through puberty is another. I consider myself fairly liberal, but I'm not comfortable with this at the middle school level at all.

Most girls are done puberty by 6th grade. Boys are definitely done by 8th grade. And the great thing about this generation? They don't label like their bigoted parents do. They can be asexual one day, bi the next and the straight the 3rd day and no one cares, except people like you, who think there is a set time.

This timeline is all wrong. There are lots of girls that dont get their period until high school. Lots of boys don't hit their growth spurt until even junior / senior year of high school.

There aren't 'lots' -- the timeline you suggest are clinically delayed-onset puberty. Speaking as someone who has kids with delayed puberty! Someone who is that delayed has had multiple conversations with their pediatrician. It's rare.

I did talk to my kids about not liking the opposite sex doesn't mean you are gay necessarily. Some of us just go through puberty later and find who we are attracted to later. Dating is just not a priority either way. I also did talk to them about not using hate language and realizing that someone who is gay didn't 'decide' to like the same sex just like they didn't decide to like the opposite sex. It's not that complicated. It should be part of the talk you give your kids.

Sheltering them doesn't mean they don't learn it -- it just means they learn it at school from their friends.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing wrong with the gays, but no need to program that gay is a great idea until they've gone through puberty

I feel the same way about religion. Stop exposing your kids to "that lifestyle" until they are ready decide for themselves.

As for being gay, believe me. Many kids know long before puberty whether they are gay or straight. Stop thinking one is "normal" and the other is a "choice."

Nicely said.

No wonder kids from singapore and south korea and china are better in math and science and english than kids here- they dont give a shit about discovering sexualtiy in school and actually learn what they are supposed to.

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Anonymous wrote:Learning sex Ed is one thing, being encouraged young kids to label their sexuality before they've even gone through puberty is another. I consider myself fairly liberal, but I'm not comfortable with this at the middle school level at all.

Most girls are done puberty by 6th grade. Boys are definitely done by 8th grade. And the great thing about this generation? They don't label like their bigoted parents do. They can be asexual one day, bi the next and the straight the 3rd day and no one cares, except people like you, who think there is a set time.

This timeline is all wrong. There are lots of girls that dont get their period until high school. Lots of boys don't hit their growth spurt until even junior / senior year of high school.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing wrong with the gays, but no need to program that gay is a great idea until they've gone through puberty

I feel the same way about religion. Stop exposing your kids to "that lifestyle" until they are ready decide for themselves.

As for being gay, believe me. Many kids know long before puberty whether they are gay or straight. Stop thinking one is "normal" and the other is a "choice."

Agree! It's amazing how parents think baptizing kids, forcing them to go to religious school, and follow their religion, is okay. I have never understood that.

And "the gays" can come out whenever they want and many do early which is why these clubs are wonderful. Don't like it? Send your sheltered kids to catholic school.

Anonymous wrote:Nothing wrong with the gays, but no need to program that gay is a great idea until they've gone through puberty

I feel the same way about religion. Stop exposing your kids to "that lifestyle" until they are ready decide for themselves.

As for being gay, believe me. Many kids know long before puberty whether they are gay or straight. Stop thinking one is "normal" and the other is a "choice."

Anonymous wrote:Nothing wrong with the gays, but no need to program that gay is a great idea until they've gone through puberty

Nobody is programming anything. I'm a straight woman, and I knew I liked boys since my first crush in third grade. Gay kids also know that they're gay from a first crush. (Bi people might take a bit longer.) When there are more gay role models, more gay kids know that they're not weird. That it's okay. And that's awesome.

Nothing wrong with the gays, but no need to program that gay is a great idea until they've gone through puberty

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Anonymous wrote:Learning sex Ed is one thing, being encouraged young kids to label their sexuality before they've even gone through puberty is another. I consider myself fairly liberal, but I'm not comfortable with this at the middle school level at all.

Most girls are done puberty by 6th grade. Boys are definitely done by 8th grade. And the great thing about this generation? They don't label like their bigoted parents do. They can be asexual one day, bi the next and the straight the 3rd day and no one cares, except people like you, who think there is a set time.

Wow that sounds like a really effed up kid! When I was growing up people were not this confused. This proves the point these kids being brainwashed. Nothing about what you wrote is okay, normal, or sane. It's sounds like a really sick kid actually.

A female acquaintance of mine was divorced twice from men before she started dating a woman in her 30's and said, "OH! THIS was why my marriages didn't work!"
Maybe if her parents had been more open-minded she wouldn't have felt pressured to enter into marriages with men.

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Anonymous wrote:Learning sex Ed is one thing, being encouraged young kids to label their sexuality before they've even gone through puberty is another. I consider myself fairly liberal, but I'm not comfortable with this at the middle school level at all.

Most girls are done puberty by 6th grade. Boys are definitely done by 8th grade. And the great thing about this generation? They don't label like their bigoted parents do. They can be asexual one day, bi the next and the straight the 3rd day and no one cares, except people like you, who think there is a set time.

Wow that sounds like a really effed up kid! When I was growing up people were not this confused. This proves the point these kids being brainwashed. Nothing about what you wrote is okay, normal, or sane. It's sounds like a really sick kid actually.

PP wasn't talking about one actual kid. Just the fact that some kids live without labels.

What some people see as "everyone used to be straight and now since the 'gay lifestyle' is being glorified, more people are being lured there," other people see for what it is: since being gay/bi/asexual/other is biological and not a lifestyle choice, no one can be lured there. The acceptance of people as they are is causing more people to accept themselves and come out. It wasn't that no one was gay 60 years ago, it's that people couldn't/wouldn't come out, so they lived as straight people.

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Anonymous wrote:Learning sex Ed is one thing, being encouraged young kids to label their sexuality before they've even gone through puberty is another. I consider myself fairly liberal, but I'm not comfortable with this at the middle school level at all.

Most girls are done puberty by 6th grade. Boys are definitely done by 8th grade. And the great thing about this generation? They don't label like their bigoted parents do. They can be asexual one day, bi the next and the straight the 3rd day and no one cares, except people like you, who think there is a set time.

Wow that sounds like a really effed up kid! When I was growing up people were not this confused. This proves the point these kids being brainwashed. Nothing about what you wrote is okay, normal, or sane. It's sounds like a really sick kid actually.

My child has not been sexually abused.

People are pulled into this lifestyle if it's promoted. Lots of people also turn to it because they are victims of sexual abuse as kids; I think it very attractive to this group of people. Every gay person I know has said they were sexual abused as kids. It's really sad. They need mental help, but instead of dealing with it, they get angry with the opposite sex. Every gay person I know was staight before.

Anonymous wrote:We should not be promoting this until after 8th grade. It will prevent children from being fake gay or pulled into that lifestyle when they are in fact not gay.

You can't be serious.

Could any one have "pulled" you into "that lifestyle" when you were in 8th grade? That's called sexual assault, and its FAR more common among the heteros.