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Anonymous wrote:I think this is a situation of "Don't ask, don't tell." As long as my kid is getting good grades on the tests and understands the work, just don't get caught and don't flaunt it in front of me.

Why do you think this is OK? Honesty matters. I'd rather have a kid who flunks out because they don't do homework than a kid who gets an A because she cheats.

I don't think it's okay. But I've also been alive long enough to know that everything isn't black and white. A priest can laugh when someone trips, and a thief can help an old lady across the street. Maybe I'd point out to my kid that it's lame to cheat when she's only getting a B. But maybe that wouldn't be the battle I'd pick.

Okay what exactly would be the battle to picking if CHEATING doesn't qualify? Committing murder? Selling drugs? Will you finally grow a spine and be a PARENT?

NP. If you equivocate murder to copying a homework assignment, I think you might have your priorities out of whack.

You can raise a moral, productive citizen who copied a high school geometry assignment.

Seriously.

Follow it through though, people have been known to murder because it gets a competitor out of the way. It's easier than having to do the work to figure out what it takes to out compete the competitor.

I'd probably confiscate the homework and turn her into her teacher.

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Anonymous wrote:I think this is a situation of "Don't ask, don't tell." As long as my kid is getting good grades on the tests and understands the work, just don't get caught and don't flaunt it in front of me.

Why do you think this is OK? Honesty matters. I'd rather have a kid who flunks out because they don't do homework than a kid who gets an A because she cheats.

I don't think it's okay. But I've also been alive long enough to know that everything isn't black and white. A priest can laugh when someone trips, and a thief can help an old lady across the street. Maybe I'd point out to my kid that it's lame to cheat when she's only getting a B. But maybe that wouldn't be the battle I'd pick.

So it would be okay if she got an A? Message received.

I bet all these cheaters would be singing a different tune if their dear Larla lost out in ranking because of a cheater.

Anonymous wrote:Eh, I copied homework a lot (never on tests though). Graduated first in my class. Went to a competitive college (didn't copy there)...graduated in the top 5% of my bschool class. Now a CPA.

I would call it time effective management.

I did all that without being a cheater.

Eh, I copied homework a lot (never on tests though). Graduated first in my class. Went to a competitive college (didn't copy there)...graduated in the top 5% of my bschool class. Now a CPA.

I would call it time effective management.

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Anonymous wrote:I think this is a situation of "Don't ask, don't tell." As long as my kid is getting good grades on the tests and understands the work, just don't get caught and don't flaunt it in front of me.

Why do you think this is OK? Honesty matters. I'd rather have a kid who flunks out because they don't do homework than a kid who gets an A because she cheats.

I don't think it's okay. But I've also been alive long enough to know that everything isn't black and white. A priest can laugh when someone trips, and a thief can help an old lady across the street. Maybe I'd point out to my kid that it's lame to cheat when she's only getting a B. But maybe that wouldn't be the battle I'd pick.

Okay what exactly would be the battle to picking if CHEATING doesn't qualify? Committing murder? Selling drugs? Will you finally grow a spine and be a PARENT?

NP. If you equivocate murder to copying a homework assignment, I think you might have your priorities out of whack.

You can raise a moral, productive citizen who copied a high school geometry assignment.

Seriously.

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Anonymous wrote:I think this is a situation of "Don't ask, don't tell." As long as my kid is getting good grades on the tests and understands the work, just don't get caught and don't flaunt it in front of me.

Why do you think this is OK? Honesty matters. I'd rather have a kid who flunks out because they don't do homework than a kid who gets an A because she cheats.

I don't think it's okay. But I've also been alive long enough to know that everything isn't black and white. A priest can laugh when someone trips, and a thief can help an old lady across the street. Maybe I'd point out to my kid that it's lame to cheat when she's only getting a B. But maybe that wouldn't be the battle I'd pick.

Okay what exactly would be the battle to picking if CHEATING doesn't qualify? Committing murder? Selling drugs? Will you finally grow a spine and be a PARENT?

We copied too at that age, even on tests. Not proud of it, but what's true is that we were under a lot of pressure in high school (not in this country) and had much too much work to do.

So I sympathize with her, but of course I wouldn't be able to condone it. I would explain what could happen if she were caught, and also look at her schedule to see when she would have the time to do it herself.

And if worse comes to worse, just pretend not to notice next time. If her grades starts dipping below A, that's when you can put your foot down.

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Anonymous wrote:I think this is a situation of "Don't ask, don't tell." As long as my kid is getting good grades on the tests and understands the work, just don't get caught and don't flaunt it in front of me.

Why do you think this is OK? Honesty matters. I'd rather have a kid who flunks out because they don't do homework than a kid who gets an A because she cheats.

I don't think it's okay. But I've also been alive long enough to know that everything isn't black and white. A priest can laugh when someone trips, and a thief can help an old lady across the street. Maybe I'd point out to my kid that it's lame to cheat when she's only getting a B. But maybe that wouldn't be the battle I'd pick.

1. if the kid gets caught cheating in hs, it'll probably be a detention the first time (happened to me). After that it may become part of academic records.
2. Bigger issue if your kid thinks it is okay in hs they will do it in college, and this has very very serious consequences.

Anonymous wrote:I have used the Pythagorean theorem as a prosecutor to determine whether a drug sale occurred in a drug free school zone. There are actually numerous practical uses for many of these math topics you seem to think it is useless to learn. There's a reason they've been taught year after year after year.

I feel sorry that some children are being raised in a home that promotes dishonesty, self-centeredness, and disrespect.

I feel sorry that some children are being raised in such a self-righteous household. My goodness, have some perspective.

I have used the Pythagorean theorem as a prosecutor to determine whether a drug sale occurred in a drug free school zone. There are actually numerous practical uses for many of these math topics you seem to think it is useless to learn. There's a reason they've been taught year after year after year.

I feel sorry that some children are being raised in a home that promotes dishonesty, self-centeredness, and disrespect.

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Anonymous wrote:punishment: more oversight, does the hw the night assigned at the kitchen table. you watch it get done. hs teachers don't check math homework for anything but whether it is done. tests will weed out those who don't know it.

And yet, OP's DD passes all the tests.

with B's apparently. most likely she's in Algebra right now, and a good foundation is important.

OP said she's in Geometry, which isn't very useful in a lot of higher math, save for standardized tests. If it was algebra, I might agree.

Also useful for computer programming, any philosophy class, English essays about other things besides literature.... and since she is a freshman not yet in her professional career, God only knows if this is directly useful or not.

Anonymous wrote:I think it's pathetic to waste time with something you already know how to do. It's wildly counterproductive and can turn people off to learning.

So if she already knows it all, it shouldn't take very long.