Compare Prep's 500 boys to the number of boys at EHS, Bullis or SSSAS. Not even close.

Anonymous wrote:The former Bullis headmaster lead the charge, I'm pretty sure he was quoted in the Wash Post.

What's funny now is that if there is one school in the IAC who should be kicked out, it's Bullis.

Between the number of senior transfers, or accepting players who have been thrown out of other schools or in general it's relaxed admissions standards, it's beyond me why the IAC schools tolerate how their administration operates.

The Prep people have to be scratching their heads over that one.

The problem is that in a five team conference, its pretty hard to kick one team out.

Prep, with a student population of 500, should worry about Bullis the least.

Landon, with a smaller student population and a lot of interest in athletic success might feel the Bullis pinch first. Landon, for many years, has been fixated on Prep as a rival.

But they might have a strategy for it or at least the pictures of the Varsity and JV football squads on their website suggest they have. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

The former Bullis headmaster lead the charge, I'm pretty sure he was quoted in the Wash Post.

What's funny now is that if there is one school in the IAC who should be kicked out, it's Bullis.

Between the number of senior transfers, or accepting players who have been thrown out of other schools or in general it's relaxed admissions standards, it's beyond me why the IAC schools tolerate how their administration operates.

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Anonymous wrote:Is Prep currently in the IAC for football?

Yes.

If Prep is currently in fact a member of the IAC, does anyone know the history of their being voted out of the IAC several times over the last 40 years? Why haven't Bullis and Episcopal been kicked out, since their recruiting is clearly far more egregious?

You are an imbecile. Prep was kicked out because Prep's enrollment dwarfed (and continues to dwarf) the rest of the IAC schools, especially considering some are co-ed. There was a stretch where none of the IAC were competitive with Prep for a number of years. Rightly or wrongly, the IAC voted their football program out.

Bullis and EHS are much more successful than the rest of the IAC in terms of recruiting top notch football players. But recruiting was not the reason they were kicked out. Bullis, EHS and Prep were clearly the best in that league last year, and Prep and EHS are the top this year.

Recruiting hard for a sport isn't reason for kicking a school out. If it was, Landon would be kicked out for lacrosse.

Not the poster you were answering, but your facts are a little fuzzy.

When GP football was kicked out of the IAC in the 1970's it's enrollment was less than 400. When it was kicked out 1n the 2000's, it's enrollment might have been 420 tops. The growth in enrollment to 500 happened in the last few years.

As I understand it Bullis and the Virginia schools led the charge to have GP football thrown out the last time. And it wasn't how many students, it was the level of the football talent. The quote I remember was from the Bullis head saying that Preps emphasis on football was not consistent with the other schools.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is Prep currently in the IAC for football?

Yes.

If Prep is currently in fact a member of the IAC, does anyone know the history of their being voted out of the IAC several times over the last 40 years? Why haven't Bullis and Episcopal been kicked out, since their recruiting is clearly far more egregious?

You are an imbecile. Prep was kicked out because Prep's enrollment dwarfed (and continues to dwarf) the rest of the IAC schools, especially considering some are co-ed. There was a stretch where none of the IAC were competitive with Prep for a number of years. Rightly or wrongly, the IAC voted their football program out.

Bullis and EHS are much more successful than the rest of the IAC in terms of recruiting top notch football players. But recruiting was not the reason they were kicked out. Bullis, EHS and Prep were clearly the best in that league last year, and Prep and EHS are the top this year.

Recruiting hard for a sport isn't reason for kicking a school out. If it was, Landon would be kicked out for lacrosse.

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Anonymous wrote:The change a Prep is not with just football, but athletics, in general. With the hiring of Scott Urick, a whose family name remains prominent in the lacrosse world, lacrosse will remain strong. The football program is starting to gain traction again after a couple of mediocre years. Expect basketball to follow. The other sports, baseball, golf, swimming, wrestling have remained strong. By the way, they just received a $20 Mil. anonymous donation to start their new capital campaign.

The 20 million is for renovation and improvement of the dorms for the boarders specifically, not a capital campaign.

TWENTY MILLION dollars of dorm renovation and improvement for rooms for 60 or 80 kids?

I'm guessing you are not in the Construction business. That's a lot of money.

Unless the Prep strategy is to increase the percentage of boarders as a % of the 500 total students and they want to add rooms, bathrooms, etc.

I don't know the Prep details, but don't forget that now generally capital campaigns are designed to raise enough money to cover ongoing maintenance. Furthermore, the term "renovation and improvements" is super broad -- it could be a total re-gutting of existing buildings with only the outside shell left. Lastly, look at the price tags for other school buildings around town. $20 million does not sound like an outlier, actually.

Anonymous wrote:I really think it's only a matter of time before Prep leaves the IAC and joins the WCAC. Whether or not they want to, it more of a natural fit. But then again, I don't think GP wants anything to do with playing DeMatha or St John's.

While I don't think Prep is aggressively recruiting and offering full rides to some families, Prep does have over 500 boys which is a significant advantage for obvious reasons.

On another note, I do think the IAC and MAC will combine a form one league in the next 5 years. In each sport they will have an upper division and a lower division similar to the ISL. At the very least, Potomac and Flint Hill will be in the IAC soon.

I'm not sure PP knows a lot of the history. GP can compete with SJC and have done so throughout the years. They can compete with Gonzaga too as this year's tight game shows.

None of them can consistently beat DeMatha and the effort to be competitive is a defining task for the schools and their athletic departments.

And Prep didn't get to the level of Gonzaga (1,000 boys) without some recruiting and some help in Admissions and Financial Aid.

While smaller than the other biggest WCAC schools, Prep does have advantages starting with facilities and location and academic reputation.

Anonymous wrote:1. Prep is not leaving the IAC

2. Flint Hill and Potomac would love to join the IAC, but the IAC is not interested unless multiple teams leave.

The dads on this forum keep talking about the leagues changing, but don't hold your breath. People have been saying that for decades.

The reason it keeps being talked about is that it makes so much sense. Especially, after trying to drive from Prep or Landon to EHS for a game on a weekday night. It's a Quality of Life thing.

Life would be so much easier for the Virginia private school students and fans if they were to form a league. And there are certainly enough of them and they are all about at the same level.

And given the geographic proximity, its easy to see how rivalries would be created and enhanced.

EHS, SSSA, FH, Potomac, Bishop Ireton, PVI and Gregory the Great and another would be a balanced league with schools of similar size.

For SSSA and EHS to keep up with GP, Bullis and Landon athletically is a strenuous task. It can be done, as recent events demonstrate. But why do it when there's an easier path.

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Anonymous wrote:Is Prep currently in the IAC for football?

Yes.

If Prep is currently in fact a member of the IAC, does anyone know the history of their being voted out of the IAC several times over the last 40 years? Why haven't Bullis and Episcopal been kicked out, since their recruiting is clearly far more egregious?

They have been kicked out twice. Once in the 1970's and once in the past few years.

Anonymous wrote:I really think it's only a matter of time before Prep leaves the IAC and joins the WCAC. Whether or not they want to, it more of a natural fit. But then again, I don't think GP wants anything to do with playing DeMatha or St John's.

While I don't think Prep is aggressively recruiting and offering full rides to some families, Prep does have over 500 boys which is a significant advantage for obvious reasons.

On another note, I do think the IAC and MAC will combine a form one league in the next 5 years. In each sport they will have an upper division and a lower division similar to the ISL. At the very least, Potomac and Flint Hill will be in the IAC soon.

Prep wouldn't want to join the WCAC as it is currently constituted. But what about a WCAC without DeMatha?

But there is a lot of unhappiness in the WCAC with the dominance of the top teams. DeMatha occasionally wins every championship in every sport. Some of the schools have already dropped out of the league for football.

A few years ago, at least one of the schools was lobbying for a WCAC split. The lower end of that league would be ideal for Prep.

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Anonymous wrote:Is Prep currently in the IAC for football?

Yes.

If Prep is currently in fact a member of the IAC, does anyone know the history of their being voted out of the IAC several times over the last 40 years? Why haven't Bullis and Episcopal been kicked out, since their recruiting is clearly far more egregious?

Anonymous wrote:Is Prep currently in the IAC for football?

Yes.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The change a Prep is not with just football, but athletics, in general. With the hiring of Scott Urick, a whose family name remains prominent in the lacrosse world, lacrosse will remain strong. The football program is starting to gain traction again after a couple of mediocre years. Expect basketball to follow. The other sports, baseball, golf, swimming, wrestling have remained strong. By the way, they just received a $20 Mil. anonymous donation to start their new capital campaign.

The 20 million is for renovation and improvement of the dorms for the boarders specifically, not a capital campaign.

TWENTY MILLION dollars of dorm renovation and improvement for rooms for 60 or 80 kids?

I'm guessing you are not in the Construction business. That's a lot of money.

Unless the Prep strategy is to increase the percentage of boarders as a % of the 500 total students and they want to add rooms, bathrooms, etc.

Is Prep currently in the IAC for football?

1. Prep is not leaving the IAC

2. Flint Hill and Potomac would love to join the IAC, but the IAC is not interested unless multiple teams leave.

The dads on this forum keep talking about the leagues changing, but don't hold your breath. People have been saying that for decades.