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Anonymous wrote:I'm aware of labradoodles for $2,900, bulldogs for $2,500.

P.s don't judge me for buying my dog from a breeder.

Fine. We won't judge you for buying from a breeder. We will just judge for spending that much money on a dog when you could have gotten one for damn near free from a shelter. You are part of the problem.

I didn't like the dogs in the shelter. I didn't want a pit bull, and I didn't want a dog that had been abused. My dog my choice.

Same here. I got slammed on dcum a while ago for pointing out that shelters are often full of pit bulls and pit mixes. I can't have and don't want a dog like that. I need a small breed because I live in a 1000 sq ft house. I got my puppy from a breeder and that was my choice. I also didn't want an abused dog or one with issues. Maybe that will work for me in the future, but not at the time we got our puppy.

You can certainly find the type and size you want of any dog from a shelter or rescue. You do not need to design it ahead of time.

That is laughably untrue. You cannot find any size and type of dog from a shelter/rescue. Don't be ridiculous.

Now I am laughing.You absolutely can and I have done so 6 times. There are even breed specific rescues. You are ridiculous.

Anonymous wrote:Depends on the breed, but north of $1500 at least. Please do through research on the breeder, or adopt.

Not true, I have had shelties my whole life (some of them from shelters, rescues, some from show breeders) and I currently know of no show breeders that charge $1500 for a puppy much less north of it. Not for a companion (performance or conformation prospect will be more, but it will be a lot more, like $3-5000).

One red flag is breeders who charge outrageous amounts. Show/hobby breeders almost have price fixing. Go find every sheltie breeder in driving distance of this area and they all charge $1,000-$1,200. I would know, because trying to get a sheltie puppy from a reputable breeder in this area is like trying to add a member of the royal family to yours.

If you look at show breeders in a given area, you'll see a pattern. When you see something outside of that pattern, there's a reason. Avoid.

I feel compelled to add that I'm not commenting in support of going to a breeder. I still think that people should go to adoption events and first meet actual dogs because most of the time when people don't already have a firm idea in mind, they actually have a great chance of meeting a great dog this way. Nowadays the only reason I get shelties from breeders is because they were returned to the breeder and need an experienced home. I would not buy a puppy.

Depends on the breed, but north of $1500 at least. Please do through research on the breeder, or adopt.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm aware of labradoodles for $2,900, bulldogs for $2,500.

P.s don't judge me for buying my dog from a breeder.

Fine. We won't judge you for buying from a breeder. We will just judge for spending that much money on a dog when you could have gotten one for damn near free from a shelter. You are part of the problem.

I didn't like the dogs in the shelter. I didn't want a pit bull, and I didn't want a dog that had been abused. My dog my choice.

Same here. I got slammed on dcum a while ago for pointing out that shelters are often full of pit bulls and pit mixes. I can't have and don't want a dog like that. I need a small breed because I live in a 1000 sq ft house. I got my puppy from a breeder and that was my choice. I also didn't want an abused dog or one with issues. Maybe that will work for me in the future, but not at the time we got our puppy.

You can certainly find the type and size you want of any dog from a shelter or rescue. You do not need to design it ahead of time.

That is laughably untrue. You cannot find any size and type of dog from a shelter/rescue. Don't be ridiculous.

I have 2 adopted dogs and prefer people to adopt, but a breeder is better than a pet store.

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Anonymous wrote:to the anti-breeder folks - how is this diff from insisting people adopt children already here and in need of home rather than "breed" their own?

Well, for one thing, people aren't the same thing as dogs.

Secondly, no one is breeding excess children and "designer" mixes of children for profit.

But nice try.

This.

And might I add that this was probably the most outrageously stupid comment :(how is this diff from insisting people adopt children already here and in need of home rather than "breed" their own?) that I've read on this site in a loooong time.

Anonymous wrote:My sister bought her golden retriever for $3,000.

And interestingly enough most,and I mean MOST golden retrievers will die of hemangiosarcoma or lymphoma. It is a fact. And why? They are bred.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm aware of labradoodles for $2,900, bulldogs for $2,500.

P.s don't judge me for buying my dog from a breeder.

Fine. We won't judge you for buying from a breeder. We will just judge for spending that much money on a dog when you could have gotten one for damn near free from a shelter. You are part of the problem.

I didn't like the dogs in the shelter. I didn't want a pit bull, and I didn't want a dog that had been abused. My dog my choice.

Same here. I got slammed on dcum a while ago for pointing out that shelters are often full of pit bulls and pit mixes. I can't have and don't want a dog like that. I need a small breed because I live in a 1000 sq ft house. I got my puppy from a breeder and that was my choice. I also didn't want an abused dog or one with issues. Maybe that will work for me in the future, but not at the time we got our puppy.

You can certainly find the type and size you want of any dog from a shelter or rescue. You do not need to design it ahead of time.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, we found that many rescues won't place dogs with families with young children (even age 8 was considered young).

Or single people (sometimes regardless of age), renters, people in condos, people who work outside the home, etc. The breed specific rescues in particular can be unbelievably demanding of their potential adopters. I really think some of the rescues drive people straight into the arms of breeders due to the rescues' policies.

Yeah. It's true- but go to places like Barcs, Humane societies.

Operation Paws for Homes is also a great rescue organization that is not crazy.

Anonymous wrote:We need a hypoallergenic breed. We also need a dog that will be good with our timid 8yo. Are those easy to find at shelters?

Yes. My beloved mixed breed terrier died 8 months ago.He came from a kill shelter. Besides being the best creature of any type in the entire world, and I am not exaggerating even a bit, he never shed one hair or had any dander. He had sparse wiry hair that often comes with wired-hair dogs. He did have some medical needs at the beginning of his life with us- but that's part of any dog's story...dental issues, etc. The no shed thing was just a perk- we had no idea he was a no shed type of dog.

He loved everyone. He really loved me. He enjoyed children. He was patient, he was an old soul in a tiny body, he was bright and curious. He was kind to other animals. I still feel a void so big and deep, it is hard to write this. I've had many dogs, all but one was a rescue. Each had their own personality, and we loved them deeply and mourned their loss at the end of their lives. They lived very long. This dog did not- died of a sudden insidious cancer at about the age of ten- never really knew how old he was. This took me out..could not even function after his death. I will never be the same again. He was my sweetest, sweetest little beloved friend and I will love him until the end of my my life. I actually had to put him down. Can you imagine? I had to hold him as he was killed...the dog I loved with all my heart.

I got him from a rescue who got him (by accident) from a high kill shelter. What a special gift he was. He was turned down by several people because he wasn't beautiful, had bad breath, and no one knew what he actually was with regard to breed. Keep that in mind. Your dog is waiting for you. Somewhere.

We need a hypoallergenic breed. We also need a dog that will be good with our timid 8yo. Are those easy to find at shelters?

Anonymous wrote:Also, we found that many rescues won't place dogs with families with young children (even age 8 was considered young).

Or single people (sometimes regardless of age), renters, people in condos, people who work outside the home, etc. The breed specific rescues in particular can be unbelievably demanding of their potential adopters. I really think some of the rescues drive people straight into the arms of breeders due to the rescues' policies.

Also, we found that many rescues won't place dogs with families with young children (even age 8 was considered young).

Same here. We have always had corgis in our family. They are not found in the shelters or rescues. One day, I might be persuaded to try another herding breed, but I do not want a pit mix, a lab mix, or a hound mix. Sorry.

Anonymous wrote:We have a Sussex and he was about $1800 10 plus years ago. We wanted this bread for various reason and they are not found in rescues or pounds.

Without breeders this dog would be extinct.

Ha. Bread=Breed