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Anonymous wrote:You really don't see how someone can be morally opposed to killing unborn life? They can only be opposed to it because of internalized sexism?

They put the rights of a bunch of cells above the rights of a living human being. It's sexism because that human being is a woman, who you would legally force to become an incubator.

Look half of all women are pro-life. You can't say they're sexist because they have a different view of fetal life than you do.

Not that poster, but I think they are sexist. They are valuing a woman's life less than an unborn baby's life.

I think the difference is the Democratic party would not have nominated someone like this.

Within my family there are a couple of people who said they would have voted for Hillary even if she were indicted.

she doesn't have to swing to dem//HRC. She has several other options.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, the thing you have to keep in mind is that this isn't just a one-off statement. This represents a pattern of how he treats women. There are reports after reports about his crass comments on women, made throughout his life.

One of the things I once read in an article was really eye-opening: it was that at his military school, Playboy magazine was revered as holding up an ideal lifestyle for men and every student wanted to be Hugh Hefner. One of his classmates said, in essence, most of us moved on and evolved, but Trump has been stuck in that moment. Hugh Hefner has been his role model for decades.

OP here, I completely agree with your view of Trump, and being a Democrat I have never had any intention of voting for him. My question is what do you really expect Republicans such as my mother, to do? Yes, she thinks Trump is just as disgusting as we do, yet being a Republican, she still for the most part agrees with his view of how the nation should run. Is she supposed to put that aside and not vote for him just because he's a pig? Would Democrats do the same if the situation were reverse?

Yes. Duh.

WTF? This isn't North Korea. She didn't swear allegiance to a party under threat of death. She's an individual with free will, and, supposedly, a brain.

Of course she didn't swear allegiance to a party. She thinks trump is vile but she still thinks his vision of the country is better. How many democrats would give their vote to a Republican if they were in this same situation.

Anonymous wrote:I have to begin by saying that I detest Trump and am not a Republican so am in no way defending him, but I find it curious that Democrats find it so appalling that Republicans would still vote for Trump after all of his appalling statements. It seems to me that most people are going to vote for the candidate whose policies most align with their own views regardless of whether they find the person to have good moral character or not. My mother is a Republican who is incredulous that Trump is the nominee, and can't stand the thought of voting for him (she was a Kasich supporter), but still plans to even in light of the leaked video. Basically it just comes down to the fact that she thinks despite being a baffoon, Trump's policies would be better for the country. I mean how many Bernie supporters, would have said, "Eff it, I'm voting for Cruz" if Bernie had been caught saying what Trump said?

His racism was a non-starter for me, and I can't understand people who can easily put aside his racism and sexism to vote for him in general.

Yes, if a Democrat acted like him, I'd vote for someone else. Not sure it would be the Republican. But someone.

Actually Bernie's tepid response to the Bernie Bro sexism turned me off from that campaign. I am much more aligned politically with Bernie than will Hillary, whom I view as a neocon Republican. But I ended up switching my vote last minute to her because of that, and some other stuff. I still worry how hawkish she may be in office. A lot.

I could almost understand the continued support for Trump solely on his policies, but he doesn't have any long-term track record of anything. He's wildly inconsistent. He's promising conservative Supreme Court justices, for example, but how can you trust him when he's been a Democrat most of his adult life, was pro-choice until he wasn't, and so on? The one consistency here is he will do whatever benefits him the most. And the hell with how that plays out for everyone else.

Anonymous wrote:OP, your question is valid, but it ignores what PPs have pointed up -- this isn't some isolated incident. It isn't a sudden, damaging revelation, it's further proof of a pattern of thought and behavior that makes Donald Trump unfit for the office.

You could liken this video to Hillary's speeches, which provide further evidence about her pretty much well-known views on Wall Street and trade. I happen to agree with much of what she says, so it doesn't surprise or bother me.

I think Trump supporters are not surprised or bothered by this revelation, because they've known their candidate is a woman-hating scumbag from the beginning and they either don't care or agree that some women need to be grabbed by the pussy.

I can assure you my mother does care that he is a woman hating scum bag and does not believe any woman needs to be grabbed by the pussy. She hates it, but she still feels like she needs to vote for him.

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Anonymous wrote:You really don't see how someone can be morally opposed to killing unborn life? They can only be opposed to it because of internalized sexism?

They put the rights of a bunch of cells above the rights of a living human being. It's sexism because that human being is a woman, who you would legally force to become an incubator.

Look half of all women are pro-life. You can't say they're sexist because they have a different view of fetal life than you do.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You really don't see how someone can be morally opposed to killing unborn life? They can only be opposed to it because of internalized sexism?

They put the rights of a bunch of cells above the rights of a living human being. It's sexism because that human being is a woman, who you would legally force to become an incubator.

This, plus they frequently do not support the children once they are born. I can understand believing it is murder, but forcing women to carry the pregnancy to term and then telling them they are on their own is cruelty to those children they were so intent not to allow to be "murdered"

Once the life is brought into the world, many then say "figure it out yourself, you tramp who should have closed your legs"

Yes, they are absolutely anti-women if they hold these views

+1. The anti-abortion movement is about punishing women, plain and simple.

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Anonymous wrote:You really don't see how someone can be morally opposed to killing unborn life? They can only be opposed to it because of internalized sexism?

They put the rights of a bunch of cells above the rights of a living human being. It's sexism because that human being is a woman, who you would legally force to become an incubator.

This, plus they frequently do not support the children once they are born. I can understand believing it is murder, but forcing women to carry the pregnancy to term and then telling them they are on their own is cruelty to those children they were so intent not to allow to be "murdered"

Once the life is brought into the world, many then say "figure it out yourself, you tramp who should have closed your legs"

Yes, they are absolutely anti-women if they hold these views

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Anonymous wrote:OP, the thing you have to keep in mind is that this isn't just a one-off statement. This represents a pattern of how he treats women. There are reports after reports about his crass comments on women, made throughout his life.

One of the things I once read in an article was really eye-opening: it was that at his military school, Playboy magazine was revered as holding up an ideal lifestyle for men and every student wanted to be Hugh Hefner. One of his classmates said, in essence, most of us moved on and evolved, but Trump has been stuck in that moment. Hugh Hefner has been his role model for decades.

OP here, I completely agree with your view of Trump, and being a Democrat I have never had any intention of voting for him. My question is what do you really expect Republicans such as my mother, to do? Yes, she thinks Trump is just as disgusting as we do, yet being a Republican, she still for the most part agrees with his view of how the nation should run. Is she supposed to put that aside and not vote for him just because he's a pig? Would Democrats do the same if the situation were reverse?

Yes. Duh.

WTF? This isn't North Korea. She didn't swear allegiance to a party under threat of death. She's an individual with free will, and, supposedly, a brain.

Anonymous wrote:If Democrats had a candidate as disgusting and dangerous as Trump who was running against someone like Mitt Romney (whose political views I do not like or agree with) I would absolutely vote for the Republican.

+1 No doubt

OP, your question is valid, but it ignores what PPs have pointed up -- this isn't some isolated incident. It isn't a sudden, damaging revelation, it's further proof of a pattern of thought and behavior that makes Donald Trump unfit for the office.

You could liken this video to Hillary's speeches, which provide further evidence about her pretty much well-known views on Wall Street and trade. I happen to agree with much of what she says, so it doesn't surprise or bother me.

I think Trump supporters are not surprised or bothered by this revelation, because they've known their candidate is a woman-hating scumbag from the beginning and they either don't care or agree that some women need to be grabbed by the pussy.

I would absolutely vote for a republican Mitt Romney over Democrat Donald Trump.

Anonymous wrote:You really don't see how someone can be morally opposed to killing unborn life? They can only be opposed to it because of internalized sexism?

They put the rights of a bunch of cells above the rights of a living human being. It's sexism because that human being is a woman, who you would legally force to become an incubator.