One of my BFFs called me totally confused after a second date and still no kiss. She's been married to that guy for two years now.

OP here. We have another date set up. This one is for drinks in the later part of an evening. He's still exceedingly polite and not flirty in our exchanges but he did reach out to set date 3.

"This isn't the kind of situation where I can make the first move and get rejected. I would rather be certain. He probably feels the same way. Our backgrounds aren't from here--if that matters but both have been in the USA for over 25yrs."

Well, you can either change, or you can wither in uncertainty and lack of control over your life. Your choice. We only have one life, so I personally pick the first choice.

Anonymous wrote:I thought it was the daytime and only 2nd date, until I read about his divorce. Now I think it's that. On one hand, it's good he's not ready to jump into bed. I think that means he likes you and doesn't want to screw things up.

Only a woman would think this way.

Seduce him, if you want him.

OP, I will kiss you on the first date. Holla

Anonymous wrote:I'm a woman. If I'm really interested in a guy, I will move in for a kiss (lips not cheek) on the second date. It doesn't have to go farther than that, but at least I want to know that there is something there. I generally find that in the best relationships there is; if the guy isn't into at least a tiny bit of kissing, there's a problem.

This isn't the kind of situation where I can make the first move and get rejected. I would rather be certain. He probably feels the same way. Our backgrounds aren't from here--if that matters but both have been in the USA for over 25yrs.

I'm a woman. If I'm really interested in a guy, I will move in for a kiss (lips not cheek) on the second date. It doesn't have to go farther than that, but at least I want to know that there is something there. I generally find that in the best relationships there is; if the guy isn't into at least a tiny bit of kissing, there's a problem.

Men are told to wait for an "enthusiastic yes."
http://www.doctornerdlove.com/2013/03/enthusiastic-consent/

kiss him see how he responds

I thought it was the daytime and only 2nd date, until I read about his divorce. Now I think it's that. On one hand, it's good he's not ready to jump into bed. I think that means he likes you and doesn't want to screw things up.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. We had a polite exchange via text today about how fun yesterday was. I think my confusion is knowing whether he is interested or if he is just trying to be a gentleman. I invited him into my house after he dropped me off and he declined.

Hmmm, that's not a good sign. As a man I'd definitely interpret that as a green light to make a move.

+1

Until you said this, I thought the daytime date was the issue. But this? He's either socially awkward, way too passive, or not interested.

It's hard to tell. He still seems broken over the divorce and he's also exceedingly polite or there could be no chemistry. I haven't been able to get a proper read.

He's coming off a divorce too? Oh sweetie, I'm sorry. He's not ready. Clearly.

Anonymous wrote:OP are you male or female?

I'm female.