I believe they've followed up on aap in Fairfax, and those kids haven't out performed AP students who didn't do aap. There really isn't that much at stake.
And if you are so worried that your budding north Arlington rocket scientist won't be placed into GT, move to south Arlington. It's much easier to get a GT designation at Randolf or Drew.

Anonymous wrote:Keep reading the magazine... I was more troubled by the college acceptance statistics that followed the gifted article. I realize they were self-reported, but I was very surprised to see how few Arlington kids are getting accepted to top private liberal arts colleges and universities. My kids are still in ES, but I assumed Arlington was pumping out kids to the Ivies. The acceptance rates looked really low. So all this GT focus doesn't seem to be making much difference where it counts the most.

The pool is too high. You are better to go to a High School with a less educated populace so you are a big fish in a small pond. The competition is too large here.

There is a cap on the number of students from any one area or HS. Also, everyone is white so nobody is getting affirmative action acceptances.

But GT has Zero to do with college acceptances. It's pretty irrelevant.

Keep reading the magazine... I was more troubled by the college acceptance statistics that followed the gifted article. I realize they were self-reported, but I was very surprised to see how few Arlington kids are getting accepted to top private liberal arts colleges and universities. My kids are still in ES, but I assumed Arlington was pumping out kids to the Ivies. The acceptance rates looked really low. So all this GT focus doesn't seem to be making much difference where it counts the most.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it funny that all the siblings in many of the families are all gifted--even though they have vastly different intelligence and personalities.

That should tell you something right there.

This is a school where all of the parents have advanced graduate and professional degrees--yet it's just the same families in the program.

Statistically, that isn't even possible.

It's actually very common and normal. Sibling IQs tend to be within 10 points of each other.

Newsflash: So are 90% of the children at any of the N. Arlington school's. Not just your family members. 90% of could meet the criteria the school uses for gifted. It's the idea that only certain families (3, 4, 5 siblings) all magically are accepted at 5.

Then Arlington uses a pretty low standard. The standard should be top 2%. Move.

It's because those families with lots of kid know the system.

APS is over-crowded.

The bar for determining a Kindergartner is GT is extremely low and highly subjective. If a kid went to an academic vs a play-based preschool there is a big difference at entry-level--even when studies show the play-based preschool will begin to quickly eclipse the traditional preschool kid by 3rd grade.

Once the 5-year old (fucking ridiculous) gets this label it's with them for life no matter how poorly they score on standardized tests in the later years or how they actually perform in the classroom/grades.

Our school puts these designated GT-kids at the top of the line for services from there out. They fill the high group math and high group classes with GT kids even when those kids have test scores much, much lower and lower grades than a kid whose parents didn't did the phony pony show or lobby for GT at age 5-6.

So now the much smarter kid is squeezed out of services and a spot in the accelerated 5th grade classes. By middle school and HS this child will be behind these same kids for advanced algebra, AP classes, etc.

Sound fair or legit?

All based on one nitwits judgement of the intellect of a kid just a few years out of diapers.

This is why some of those families have every kid designated as soon as they enter the system, They knew what was at stake down the pipe and that this same kid most likely will have a much harder time getting that designation down the pipe.

Those that thought objective criteria would be used are screwed.

Sounds like a lawsuit in the making...

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Anonymous wrote:I find it funny that all the siblings in many of the families are all gifted--even though they have vastly different intelligence and personalities.

That should tell you something right there.

This is a school where all of the parents have advanced graduate and professional degrees--yet it's just the same families in the program.

Statistically, that isn't even possible.

It's actually very common and normal. Sibling IQs tend to be within 10 points of each other.

Newsflash: So are 90% of the children at any of the N. Arlington school's. Not just your family members. 90% of could meet the criteria the school uses for gifted. It's the idea that only certain families (3, 4, 5 siblings) all magically are accepted at 5.

Then Arlington uses a pretty low standard. The standard should be top 2%. Move.

Fairfax uses an even lower standard.

But at least Fairfax knows not to label K's. Fairax is smart enough to know IQ scores are unstable before age 7. My kids both have IQ's in the 140s. 90% of kids do not.

And it's a former Fairfax GT guy that is now labeling the Kindergartners at our Arlington school. He holds the all mighty power and there is zero objective criteria.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it funny that all the siblings in many of the families are all gifted--even though they have vastly different intelligence and personalities.

That should tell you something right there.

This is a school where all of the parents have advanced graduate and professional degrees--yet it's just the same families in the program.

Statistically, that isn't even possible.

It's actually very common and normal. Sibling IQs tend to be within 10 points of each other.

Newsflash: So are 90% of the children at any of the N. Arlington school's. Not just your family members. 90% of could meet the criteria the school uses for gifted. It's the idea that only certain families (3, 4, 5 siblings) all magically are accepted at 5.

Then Arlington uses a pretty low standard. The standard should be top 2%. Move.

Fairfax uses an even lower standard.

But at least Fairfax knows not to label K's. Fairax is smart enough to know IQ scores are unstable before age 7. My kids both have IQ's in the 140s. 90% of kids do not.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it funny that all the siblings in many of the families are all gifted--even though they have vastly different intelligence and personalities.

That should tell you something right there.

This is a school where all of the parents have advanced graduate and professional degrees--yet it's just the same families in the program.

Statistically, that isn't even possible.

It's actually very common and normal. Sibling IQs tend to be within 10 points of each other.

Newsflash: So are 90% of the children at any of the N. Arlington school's. Not just your family members. 90% of could meet the criteria the school uses for gifted. It's the idea that only certain families (3, 4, 5 siblings) all magically are accepted at 5.

Then Arlington uses a pretty low standard. The standard should be top 2%. Move.

Fairfax uses an even lower standard.

And yet your snowflake can't get into either. Hmmmm.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it funny that all the siblings in many of the families are all gifted--even though they have vastly different intelligence and personalities.

That should tell you something right there.

This is a school where all of the parents have advanced graduate and professional degrees--yet it's just the same families in the program.

Statistically, that isn't even possible.

It's actually very common and normal. Sibling IQs tend to be within 10 points of each other.

Newsflash: So are 90% of the children at any of the N. Arlington school's. Not just your family members. 90% of could meet the criteria the school uses for gifted. It's the idea that only certain families (3, 4, 5 siblings) all magically are accepted at 5.

Then Arlington uses a pretty low standard. The standard should be top 2%. Move.

It's because those families with lots of kid know the system.

APS is over-crowded.

The bar for determining a Kindergartner is GT is extremely low and highly subjective. If a kid went to an academic vs a play-based preschool there is a big difference at entry-level--even when studies show the play-based preschool will begin to quickly eclipse the traditional preschool kid by 3rd grade.

Once the 5-year old (fucking ridiculous) gets this label it's with them for life no matter how poorly they score on standardized tests in the later years or how they actually perform in the classroom/grades.

Our school puts these designated GT-kids at the top of the line for services from there out. They fill the high group math and high group classes with GT kids even when those kids have test scores much, much lower and lower grades than a kid whose parents didn't did the phony pony show or lobby for GT at age 5-6.

So now the much smarter kid is squeezed out of services and a spot in the accelerated 5th grade classes. By middle school and HS this child will be behind these same kids for advanced algebra, AP classes, etc.

Sound fair or legit?

All based on one nitwits judgement of the intellect of a kid just a few years out of diapers.

This is why some of those families have every kid designated as soon as they enter the system, They knew what was at stake down the pipe and that this same kid most likely will have a much harder time getting that designation down the pipe.

Those that thought objective criteria would be used are screwed.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it funny that all the siblings in many of the families are all gifted--even though they have vastly different intelligence and personalities.

That should tell you something right there.

This is a school where all of the parents have advanced graduate and professional degrees--yet it's just the same families in the program.

Statistically, that isn't even possible.

It's actually very common and normal. Sibling IQs tend to be within 10 points of each other.

Newsflash: So are 90% of the children at any of the N. Arlington school's. Not just your family members. 90% of could meet the criteria the school uses for gifted. It's the idea that only certain families (3, 4, 5 siblings) all magically are accepted at 5.

Then Arlington uses a pretty low standard. The standard should be top 2%. Move.

Fairfax uses an even lower standard.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it funny that all the siblings in many of the families are all gifted--even though they have vastly different intelligence and personalities.

That should tell you something right there.

This is a school where all of the parents have advanced graduate and professional degrees--yet it's just the same families in the program.

Statistically, that isn't even possible.

It's actually very common and normal. Sibling IQs tend to be within 10 points of each other.

Newsflash: So are 90% of the children at any of the N. Arlington school's. Not just your family members. 90% of could meet the criteria the school uses for gifted. It's the idea that only certain families (3, 4, 5 siblings) all magically are accepted at 5.

Then Arlington uses a pretty low standard. The standard should be top 2%. Move.

My kids were both identified GT in Arlington. They are smart kids, but no way in hell are they truly gifted.

GT services were pretty solid when they were pull out, but when they switched to push in they were pretty much a joke.

We have since left the system for greener pastures.

Yawn...just another repackaged way of asking, how do I lock down admission to Big State University for my nova kid.

Anonymous wrote:Hmmm....two of the parents quoted that were unhappy with the program were ASF parents.

What do you mean bu "Hmmm"? I have a rising K student and I am on the fence about sending him there.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it funny that all the siblings in many of the families are all gifted--even though they have vastly different intelligence and personalities.

That should tell you something right there.

This is a school where all of the parents have advanced graduate and professional degrees--yet it's just the same families in the program.

Statistically, that isn't even possible.

It's actually very common and normal. Sibling IQs tend to be within 10 points of each other.

Newsflash: So are 90% of the children at any of the N. Arlington school's. Not just your family members. 90% of could meet the criteria the school uses for gifted. It's the idea that only certain families (3, 4, 5 siblings) all magically are accepted at 5.

Anonymous wrote:I find it funny that all the siblings in many of the families are all gifted--even though they have vastly different intelligence and personalities.

That should tell you something right there.

This is a school where all of the parents have advanced graduate and professional degrees--yet it's just the same families in the program.

Statistically, that isn't even possible.

It's actually very common and normal. Sibling IQs tend to be within 10 points of each other.