Anonymous wrote:Girls tend to find spouses at college or through college friends. Who's your daughter going to meet at Michigan? Half the kids are middle class Michigan residents; the other half are kids that were rejected from Berkeley (California students), Brown, Penn and Cornell. 1/2 the boys are engineering or business (at Ross, a marketing school). Statistically, if your daughter meets her husband at Michigan, he's most likely going to be a future Ford engineer or mid-level manager at Kraft/Heinz.

At Brown a likely mate possessed the candle power (and/or $) to get into an Ivy, will be conditioned, respect culture, cosmopolitan, and post-grad will likely end up in finance, or a top tier law/medical school.

Different leagues.

What an ageist/sexist remark! I certainly didn't look for a husband at my SLAC nor at yale law school I was there to learn what I needed to do and excel. My message to both of my kids is that time spent dating in high school, college, is wasted time Focus on your studies and all will fall into place. Are you from the south? Seriously, no one thinks about MRS degrees anymore. And, finally, i wouldn't want my kid to marry anyone from Brown because I know that they got an ultra liberal chopped-up version of an education as opposed to the Great Books series at chicago or Columbia. Taking a bunch of isolated courses of your own pick does not an intellectual make.

Girls tend to find spouses at college or through college friends. Who's your daughter going to meet at Michigan? Half the kids are middle class Michigan residents; the other half are kids that were rejected from Berkeley (California students), Brown, Penn and Cornell. 1/2 the boys are engineering or business (at Ross, a marketing school). Statistically, if your daughter meets her husband at Michigan, he's most likely going to be a future Ford engineer or mid-level manager at Kraft/Heinz.

At Brown a likely mate possessed the candle power (and/or $) to get into an Ivy, will be conditioned, respect culture, cosmopolitan, and post-grad will likely end up in finance, or a top tier law/medical school.

Different leagues.

I can't speak to Michigan, but UVA took my child's AP scores (4) for credit, a Nova Physics college course taken during summer, and a Johns Hopkins writing seminar, so he walked in with six credits of As. The Ivies he was considering wouldn't do that. Also no merit from any of the ivies at all. We have two in college so the in-state benefit has been a blessing.

If it were any other Ivy then yes, you go Ivy because the prestige, etc., trumps that of Michigan. But not Brown.

to OP: Be sure to add in the calculations of costs associated with travel back and forth. That killed applying to west coast schools for us. We just couldn't afford to pay for multiple air tickets repeatedly over four or five years. We, too, went state and DD is thrilled.

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Anonymous wrote:Look into the residential college (known as the "RC"). She could apply to that. It's very much like Brown. It's a pass/fail model. She must be proficient in a second language to graduate from the program. It also guarantees that she'll be placed in a centrally located dorm: East Quad. Then she'll have the best of both worlds.

Np -- is that the same as the honors college?

Honors and RC are different.

You can do both Honors and RC. I did. Many RC friends did, too.

Anonymous wrote:I read housing is not guaranteed for four years. I'm not familiar with Ann Arbor but do most students live off campus?

Housing is guaranteed for freshman, and pretty much all sophomores who want to live on campus (I think about 1/2 do). Otherwise there is tons of off campus housing, although some of it is expensive.

For the pp who suggested the 3 year plan, Brown does not give credit for APs.

I read housing is not guaranteed for four years. I'm not familiar with Ann Arbor but do most students live off campus?

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Anonymous wrote:Look into the residential college (known as the "RC"). She could apply to that. It's very much like Brown. It's a pass/fail model. She must be proficient in a second language to graduate from the program. It also guarantees that she'll be placed in a centrally located dorm: East Quad. Then she'll have the best of both worlds.

Np -- is that the same as the honors college?

Honors and RC are different.

Honors housing is in South Quad and covers the first 2 years. Unlike Brown it is quite structured - you have to take at least 2 honors classes a semester including 3 honors core classes. Plus regular distribution requirements (some classes will meet both of course).

Not worth it!!!

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Brown is a completely different school than Michigan.

How so?

For starters Brown is an open curriculum school. It is not for kids who need structure.

I'm familiar with the curriculum, but I don't know what you mean by a student needing structure. Open is just flexibility and gives the student freedom to explore. It's not like they're on their own without an advisor, right? I'd think most college students would find that really neat.

Structure meaning you don't have a set requirement of classes you have to take, like at Columbia for example all students take the same set of classes their freshman and I think part of their sophomore year. Brown wants students that know why they want to be there. The essay explaining "why Brown" is a very important piece of the application. Yes it is appealing to students because you can explore and create your own academic experience - that's why my DD likes it.

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Anonymous wrote:Look into the residential college (known as the "RC"). She could apply to that. It's very much like Brown. It's a pass/fail model. She must be proficient in a second language to graduate from the program. It also guarantees that she'll be placed in a centrally located dorm: East Quad. Then she'll have the best of both worlds.

Np -- is that the same as the honors college?

Honors and RC are different.

Anonymous wrote:Look into the residential college (known as the "RC"). She could apply to that. It's very much like Brown. It's a pass/fail model. She must be proficient in a second language to graduate from the program. It also guarantees that she'll be placed in a centrally located dorm: East Quad. Then she'll have the best of both worlds.

Np -- is that the same as the honors college?

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Brown is a completely different school than Michigan.

How so?

For starters Brown is an open curriculum school. It is not for kids who need structure.

I'm familiar with the curriculum, but I don't know what you mean by a student needing structure. Open is just flexibility and gives the student freedom to explore. It's not like they're on their own without an advisor, right? I'd think most college students would find that really neat.