Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Tell me what company you work for. Now tell me what floor you work on. Now tell me your supervisors name. Now I want you to tell me all the vindictive things they have down while you have worked there. You shouldn't have a problem doing it since is anonymous. Oh you don't feel comfortable?
Principals troll the boards and so do staff members. Unless you've left the school you aren't gonna identify yourself with this info.
I'm glad you said this, because that proves that most people saying this, it's an individual experience, not a pattern of awful behavior. Because truly horrible principals (and I've met several) leave such a swath of nastiness and destruction in their wakes, there's no way you couldn't identify the school and the principal and reasons they're horrible without identifying yourself. Because whatever makes them so bad affected lots if adults and lots of kids. That is the definition of a horrible principal: awful patterns, awful choices, awful behaviors. There is plenty of examples of their horribleness.
If the reason you think they're horrible is so specific/unique that by giving a basic statement about it they'd know who you are, that's a direct individual horrible experience. That does not = an overall "horrible principal" just because you had your own awful experience. And if many others had the same bad experience, how will anyone know who is posting?
You've got no names, no basic facts about why they're so bad. You would be able to give basics on why they're so awful if they're that awful. You're huffing and puffing and should not be taken seriously unless you have some names and details.
Who ever you are, you clearly don't read the Washington Post, nor these boards or know how to google. There are plenty of names, example, and a whole website that was dedicated to the shenanigans at CHEC, including copies of emails for one. Happy reading! Even DCPS has fired principals, or what about Friends of Bedford and what happened at Coolidge and Roosevelt. What was the name of that principal again that changed grades, harassed teachers, and then got a promotion.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:From the article:
"The Washington Teachers’ Union contends that over the years that there have been a number of complaints from teachers about the administration's management, staff morale and contractual violations."
Yeah, but that's the case in most DC schools.
We'll why aren't those principals out?
Because DCPS doesn't care about teachers. They will just bring in new people to replace the ones that leave. The extended year principals decided themselves without teacher input to switch calendars. In fact my principal told staff either get with the program or get out. I'm a sped teacher and I regularly sub for missing teachers. Last year I counted I subbed a total of 42 times. The principals don't care about the union contract.
Last year was my first and last year teaching in DCPS. We were required to cover classes every day due to teachers constantly calling out. On a given day, we had about 20 teachers out. The union contract mandated we be paid about 35 an hour for covering. I made at least an extra 300 each check. The downside is that I rarely had a planning period.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:From the article:
"The Washington Teachers’ Union contends that over the years that there have been a number of complaints from teachers about the administration's management, staff morale and contractual violations."
Yeah, but that's the case in most DC schools.
We'll why aren't those principals out?
Because DCPS doesn't care about teachers. They will just bring in new people to replace the ones that leave. The extended year principals decided themselves without teacher input to switch calendars. In fact my principal told staff either get with the program or get out. I'm a sped teacher and I regularly sub for missing teachers. Last year I counted I subbed a total of 42 times. The principals don't care about the union contract.
At least you got paid. At my school we don't dare ask for money because "we are family and family doesn't need to be paid for helping each other". The one teacher who demanded payment was shockingly minimally effective last year.
Last year was my first and last year teaching in DCPS. We were required to cover classes every day due to teachers constantly calling out. On a given day, we had about 20 teachers out. The union contract mandated we be paid about 35 an hour for covering. I made at least an extra 300 each check. The downside is that I rarely had a planning period.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:From the article:
"The Washington Teachers’ Union contends that over the years that there have been a number of complaints from teachers about the administration's management, staff morale and contractual violations."
Yeah, but that's the case in most DC schools.
We'll why aren't those principals out?
Because DCPS doesn't care about teachers. They will just bring in new people to replace the ones that leave. The extended year principals decided themselves without teacher input to switch calendars. In fact my principal told staff either get with the program or get out. I'm a sped teacher and I regularly sub for missing teachers. Last year I counted I subbed a total of 42 times. The principals don't care about the union contract.
Last year was my first and last year teaching in DCPS. We were required to cover classes every day due to teachers constantly calling out. On a given day, we had about 20 teachers out. The union contract mandated we be paid about 35 an hour for covering. I made at least an extra 300 each check. The downside is that I rarely had a planning period.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:From the article:
"The Washington Teachers’ Union contends that over the years that there have been a number of complaints from teachers about the administration's management, staff morale and contractual violations."
Yeah, but that's the case in most DC schools.
We'll why aren't those principals out?
Because DCPS doesn't care about teachers. They will just bring in new people to replace the ones that leave. The extended year principals decided themselves without teacher input to switch calendars. In fact my principal told staff either get with the program or get out. I'm a sped teacher and I regularly sub for missing teachers. Last year I counted I subbed a total of 42 times. The principals don't care about the union contract.
At least you got paid. At my school we don't dare ask for money because "we are family and family doesn't need to be paid for helping each other". The one teacher who demanded payment was shockingly minimally effective last year.
Last year was my first and last year teaching in DCPS. We were required to cover classes every day due to teachers constantly calling out. On a given day, we had about 20 teachers out. The union contract mandated we be paid about 35 an hour for covering. I made at least an extra 300 each check. The downside is that I rarely had a planning period.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:From the article:
"The Washington Teachers’ Union contends that over the years that there have been a number of complaints from teachers about the administration's management, staff morale and contractual violations."
Yeah, but that's the case in most DC schools.
We'll why aren't those principals out?
Because DCPS doesn't care about teachers. They will just bring in new people to replace the ones that leave. The extended year principals decided themselves without teacher input to switch calendars. In fact my principal told staff either get with the program or get out. I'm a sped teacher and I regularly sub for missing teachers. Last year I counted I subbed a total of 42 times. The principals don't care about the union contract.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Tell me what company you work for. Now tell me what floor you work on. Now tell me your supervisors name. Now I want you to tell me all the vindictive things they have down while you have worked there. You shouldn't have a problem doing it since is anonymous. Oh you don't feel comfortable?
Principals troll the boards and so do staff members. Unless you've left the school you aren't gonna identify yourself with this info.
I'm glad you said this, because that proves that most people saying this, it's an individual experience, not a pattern of awful behavior. Because truly horrible principals (and I've met several) leave such a swath of nastiness and destruction in their wakes, there's no way you couldn't identify the school and the principal and reasons they're horrible without identifying yourself. Because whatever makes them so bad affected lots if adults and lots of kids. That is the definition of a horrible principal: awful patterns, awful choices, awful behaviors. There is plenty of examples of their horribleness.
If the reason you think they're horrible is so specific/unique that by giving a basic statement about it they'd know who you are, that's a direct individual horrible experience. That does not = an overall "horrible principal" just because you had your own awful experience. And if many others had the same bad experience, how will anyone know who is posting?
You've got no names, no basic facts about why they're so bad. You would be able to give basics on why they're so awful if they're that awful. You're huffing and puffing and should not be taken seriously unless you have some names and details.
Anonymous wrote:Tell me what company you work for. Now tell me what floor you work on. Now tell me your supervisors name. Now I want you to tell me all the vindictive things they have down while you have worked there. You shouldn't have a problem doing it since is anonymous. Oh you don't feel comfortable?
Principals troll the boards and so do staff members. Unless you've left the school you aren't gonna identify yourself with this info.
Anonymous wrote:Tell me what company you work for. Now tell me what floor you work on. Now tell me your supervisors name. Now I want you to tell me all the vindictive things they have down while you have worked there. You shouldn't have a problem doing it since is anonymous. Oh you don't feel comfortable?
Principals troll the boards and so do staff members. Unless you've left the school you aren't gonna identify yourself with this info.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:From the article:
"The Washington Teachers’ Union contends that over the years that there have been a number of complaints from teachers about the administration's management, staff morale and contractual violations."
Yeah, but that's the case in most DC schools.
We'll why aren't those principals out?
Unfortunately, intimidation & harassment of teachers is the culture in DCPS.
A lot of horrible principals have been given the boot but many remain. Hopefully this changes under the new Chancellor & principals will realize they cannot act lawlessly as if the school is their own personal wild Wild West.
Since this is an anonymous forum.
Name your list of schools with allegedly horrible principals, or you're just blowing hot air and over-generalizing. Which specific schools have such awful principals and WHY do you say they're horrible?
Say it or it didn't happen is 5 year old logic. ADULTS know how the workplace goes. And everyone knows employees don't leave bad jobs; they leave bad managers. Look at the numbers that leave DCPS ALL year every year.
Really? Asking for evidence or facts is 5 yr old logic? Well maybe things aren't so bad in DC schools after all if that's the case...
Anyway, the fact remains that if you can't name specific current bad principals and what makes them bad in an anonymous forum, you are spouting B.S. and don't really have any details to back up your B.S.. I'm not saying DCPS doesn't have major leadership challenges - they are indeed there. But "horrible principals" is something that if you really know any, you speak up and name them, the school, and what makes them horrible.
Since this is an anonymous forum tell me what company you work for. Now tell me what floor you work on. Now tell me your supervisors name. Now I want you to tell me all the vindictive things he/she has ever done. Do you feel comfortable doing that? I mean come on. Principals troll these
Boards
But it's ok, it's been a couple of days and neither you nor anyone else has produced any specific schools or principals, so the rest of us are clear you've got nothing. Because truly "horrible principals" should leave quite a trail of details that you can refer to. But you generalized and exaggerated, so no details to report.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:From the article:
"The Washington Teachers’ Union contends that over the years that there have been a number of complaints from teachers about the administration's management, staff morale and contractual violations."
Yeah, but that's the case in most DC schools.
We'll why aren't those principals out?
Unfortunately, intimidation & harassment of teachers is the culture in DCPS.
A lot of horrible principals have been given the boot but many remain. Hopefully this changes under the new Chancellor & principals will realize they cannot act lawlessly as if the school is their own personal wild Wild West.
Name your list of schools with allegedly horrible principals, or you're just blowing hot air and over-generalizing. Which specific schools have such awful principals and WHY do you say they're horrible?
Say it or it didn't happen is 5 year old logic. ADULTS know how the workplace goes. And everyone knows employees don't leave bad jobs; they leave bad managers. Look at the numbers that leave DCPS ALL year every year.
Really? Asking for evidence or facts is 5 yr old logic? Well maybe things aren't so bad in DC schools after all if that's the case...
Anyway, the fact remains that if you can't name specific current bad principals and what makes them bad in an anonymous forum, you are spouting B.S. and don't really have any details to back up your B.S.. I'm not saying DCPS doesn't have major leadership challenges - they are indeed there. But "horrible principals" is something that if you really know any, you speak up and name them, the school, and what makes them horrible.
But it's ok, it's been a couple of days and neither you nor anyone else has produced any specific schools or principals, so the rest of us are clear you've got nothing. Because truly "horrible principals" should leave quite a trail of details that you can refer to. But you generalized and exaggerated, so no details to report.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:From the article:
"The Washington Teachers’ Union contends that over the years that there have been a number of complaints from teachers about the administration's management, staff morale and contractual violations."
Yeah, but that's the case in most DC schools.
We'll why aren't those principals out?
Unfortunately, intimidation & harassment of teachers is the culture in DCPS.
A lot of horrible principals have been given the boot but many remain. Hopefully this changes under the new Chancellor & principals will realize they cannot act lawlessly as if the school is their own personal wild Wild West.
Name your list of schools with allegedly horrible principals, or you're just blowing hot air and over-generalizing. Which specific schools have such awful principals and WHY do you say they're horrible?
Say it or it didn't happen is 5 year old logic. ADULTS know how the workplace goes. And everyone knows employees don't leave bad jobs; they leave bad managers. Look at the numbers that leave DCPS ALL year every year.