Anonymous wrote:I live in VA and my husband cheated on me while I was pregnant. It was an outrageous, over-the-top affair that I used to think I should have written a book about, but it all sounds too far-fetched for it to really have happened...
I had proof of everything. And, I was hurt and pissed. The divorce lawyer would not file adultery charges. It was a large firm, and they will not take contested cases. Apparently, judges don't like it and they are not willing to get on a judges bad side. I found that to be a common theme among the divorce lawyers I interviewed.
Anonymous wrote:Print the emails. Print the phone records. Print the financial documents. Print everything that you can.
+1 Lawyer, Therapist, Childcare, Friends, Family advice.
Hugs and better to know now than later.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I live in VA and my husband cheated on me while I was pregnant. It was an outrageous, over-the-top affair that I used to think I should have written a book about, but it all sounds too far-fetched for it to really have happened...
I had proof of everything. And, I was hurt and pissed. The divorce lawyer would not file adultery charges. It was a large firm, and they will not take contested cases. Apparently, judges don't like it and they are not willing to get on a judges bad side. I found that to be a common theme among the divorce lawyers I interviewed.
What??? That's so unfairnot the Op but I am falling off my chair reading this, you didn't manage to find one proper lawyer that would file the adultery charge?
Anonymous wrote:Wow. Print all those emails out IMMEDIATELY.
Try to delete the fact you printed them.
Try, try, try- AFTER YOU HAVE PRINTED THE EMAILS, SO HE DOESNT WISE UP- to get access to his phone and print the texts that are in there.
If the phone bill is in both your names you could call them and ask for a transcript of numbers he has texted (though they won't tell you the texts, usually)
Get every shred of evidence lined up, cause it's gonna be IMPORTANT later on. [/quote
Emao them to yourself and erase send and trash. No need to be printing out reams of papers.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I live in VA and my husband cheated on me while I was pregnant. It was an outrageous, over-the-top affair that I used to think I should have written a book about, but it all sounds too far-fetched for it to really have happened...
I had proof of everything. And, I was hurt and pissed. The divorce lawyer would not file adultery charges. It was a large firm, and they will not take contested cases. Apparently, judges don't like it and they are not willing to get on a judges bad side. I found that to be a common theme among the divorce lawyers I interviewed.
What??? That's so unfairnot the Op but I am falling off my chair reading this, you didn't manage to find one proper lawyer that would file the adultery charge?
Very typical of how the legal system treats women. We are not protected under the law, even when there are laws on the books. We are not allowed to make choices about how we want to pursue our legal options. We are discouraged from using the legal system on our own behalf. The mostly male legal profession refuses to use the system on our behalf. This extends to many other things in addition to failing to use the law on behalf of women in divorce. Refusal to prosecute and sentence date rape appropriately. Refusal to expend system resources on processing rape kits so crimes can be solved. Refusal prosecute domestic violence even when clear physical evidence exists, etc. Even today, women need to continue pressing for equal access to and treatment within the legal system.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I live in VA and my husband cheated on me while I was pregnant. It was an outrageous, over-the-top affair that I used to think I should have written a book about, but it all sounds too far-fetched for it to really have happened...
I had proof of everything. And, I was hurt and pissed. The divorce lawyer would not file adultery charges. It was a large firm, and they will not take contested cases. Apparently, judges don't like it and they are not willing to get on a judges bad side. I found that to be a common theme among the divorce lawyers I interviewed.
What??? That's so unfairnot the Op but I am falling off my chair reading this, you didn't manage to find one proper lawyer that would file the adultery charge?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I've decided not to confront my DH until after I meet with a lawyer next week but I just can't keep the news in: My husband of 18 months and the father of our 8 month old daughter has been cheating on me since at least May! What is wrong with him?! Who does this?!
Last week DH told me he wanted a divorce, and implied that I wasn't a supportive wife. I begged, pleaded, and generally humiliated myself in trying to get him to change his mind. He wouldn't budge. I asked point blank if he was cheating and he said no. In fact, he proclaimed that he was offended that I would even ask such a question. A few days later he announced how unfair it was that he had to wait an entire year for a divorce. Still I suspected nothing. In fact I defended him when my mom suggested that he wanted a divorce faster because there was another woman. She said "I'd bet if you looked in his email you would see there's another woman." Just to prove her wrong, I checked out his gmail (he never logs out) and literally the first email was from some woman about their upcoming romantic getaway! I'm blown away, but at least it all makes sense now.
Any general advice from those who have found themselves in similar situations? I know adultery is hard to prove in VA but it might be worth the effort/cost to avoid having to pay spousal support.
Sorry that I don't have anything but a question, you might have to pay HIM spousal support?
Anonymous wrote:I live in VA and my husband cheated on me while I was pregnant. It was an outrageous, over-the-top affair that I used to think I should have written a book about, but it all sounds too far-fetched for it to really have happened...
I had proof of everything. And, I was hurt and pissed. The divorce lawyer would not file adultery charges. It was a large firm, and they will not take contested cases. Apparently, judges don't like it and they are not willing to get on a judges bad side. I found that to be a common theme among the divorce lawyers I interviewed.
not the Op but I am falling off my chair reading this, you didn't manage to find one proper lawyer that would file the adultery charge? Anonymous wrote:I've decided not to confront my DH until after I meet with a lawyer next week but I just can't keep the news in: My husband of 18 months and the father of our 8 month old daughter has been cheating on me since at least May! What is wrong with him?! Who does this?!
Last week DH told me he wanted a divorce, and implied that I wasn't a supportive wife. I begged, pleaded, and generally humiliated myself in trying to get him to change his mind. He wouldn't budge. I asked point blank if he was cheating and he said no. In fact, he proclaimed that he was offended that I would even ask such a question. A few days later he announced how unfair it was that he had to wait an entire year for a divorce. Still I suspected nothing. In fact I defended him when my mom suggested that he wanted a divorce faster because there was another woman. She said "I'd bet if you looked in his email you would see there's another woman." Just to prove her wrong, I checked out his gmail (he never logs out) and literally the first email was from some woman about their upcoming romantic getaway! I'm blown away, but at least it all makes sense now.
Any general advice from those who have found themselves in similar situations? I know adultery is hard to prove in VA but it might be worth the effort/cost to avoid having to pay spousal support.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I've decided not to confront my DH until after I meet with a lawyer next week but I just can't keep the news in: My husband of 18 months and the father of our 8 month old daughter has been cheating on me since at least May! What is wrong with him?! Who does this?!
Last week DH told me he wanted a divorce, and implied that I wasn't a supportive wife. I begged, pleaded, and generally humiliated myself in trying to get him to change his mind. He wouldn't budge. I asked point blank if he was cheating and he said no. In fact, he proclaimed that he was offended that I would even ask such a question. A few days later he announced how unfair it was that he had to wait an entire year for a divorce. Still I suspected nothing. In fact I defended him when my mom suggested that he wanted a divorce faster because there was another woman. She said "I'd bet if you looked in his email you would see there's another woman." Just to prove her wrong, I checked out his gmail (he never logs out) and literally the first email was from some woman about their upcoming romantic getaway! I'm blown away, but at least it all makes sense now.
Any general advice from those who have found themselves in similar situations? I know adultery is hard to prove in VA but it might be worth the effort/cost to avoid having to pay spousal support.
I have experience in proving this kind of thing in VA, though it really is almost pointless unless you would have to provide him spousal support.
In order to prove adultery, you need what is called, "clear and convincing," evidence of his cheating. This is below beyond a reasonable doubt, but the email you have is INSUFFICIENT. You will need to have a private investigator witness and photograph him in a romantic situation with his new partner. They will need to be holding hands, kissing, etc. Then the investigator needs to witness opportunity for them to have sex. This means witnessing them go into a home together and be alone for sufficient time to believe sex is likely. Expect this to cost somewhere around $2,500 to $5,000! What do you get for it? Almost nothing. You can file a fault divorce, which eliminates the 1-year waiting time, and maybe gets you a tiny bit in compensation. The BIGGEST THING YOU GET is to subtract any funds he spent on her (getaways, gifts, etc.) from marital assets for the calculating of assets to be split. In other words, if he spent $10,000 on her, you can claim $10,000 in assets. You could also use the proof as blackmail to get him to agree to terms he otherwise would not.
Now the FUN part. If you are into revenge, you can use the proof of adultery to your advantage! You can actually depose him and his new girlfriend and force them to testify. Because adultery is a crime in Virginia, he can plead the 5th amendment against self-incrimination, but her situation is a bit more questionable. It may be interpreted as crime only for him, not her, in this adulterous relationship. She may be compelled to testify. This can be used as a way to get him to sign off on things he would not otherwise. After all, it will be humiliating for her to go through this process.
In any case, expect the whole process related to adultery to cost $2,500 to $10,000 and the entire divorce to cost $50,000+
OMG, I love this.
I'm a the high wage earner (female) and it would be worth the money in my case if it came to it. I'd go for about absolute blood bath if I were in the OPs shoes.