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Anonymous wrote:Complaining about content or tone (that they are nasty, or contributing to incivility) is different than complaining about the quality of a woman's voice, or how it sounds. And it is another way you try to push women out of the discourse. Not touching the content (which is a changeable choice) but attacking how they look or sound (which is much harder to change and more fundamental to who they are).

Like the way you attack Trump and his hair? Or the Dr in the other thread?

Both Trump and Clinton have had their hair made fun of for decades. That's really what you want to hang your hat on?

Anonymous wrote:Complaining about content or tone (that they are nasty, or contributing to incivility) is different than complaining about the quality of a woman's voice, or how it sounds. And it is another way you try to push women out of the discourse. Not touching the content (which is a changeable choice) but attacking how they look or sound (which is much harder to change and more fundamental to who they are).

Like the way you attack Trump and his hair? Or the Dr in the other thread?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Listening to her hypernasal voice makes me want to jump through the TV and tell scream, "stop talking through your nose"! That, coupled with her message, also makes me want to punch her in her nose. So, no, I try to never watch her.

Isn't it funny how no one ever complains about Bill O' Reilly's voice or Hannity's voice or any other male host? Hmm.

Why would it be funny? And people complain about their tone constantly. Or are you just trying to inject some -ist bait in this thread?

Complaining about content or tone (that they are nasty, or contributing to incivility) is different than complaining about the quality of a woman's voice, or how it sounds. And it is another way you try to push women out of the discourse. Not touching the content (which is a changeable choice) but attacking how they look or sound (which is much harder to change and more fundamental to who they are).

http://www.dailydot.com/via/vocal-fry-99-percent-invisible-womens-voices/

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/01/07/vocal_fry_and_valley_girls_why_old_men_find_young_women_s_voices_so_annoying.html

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/time/4268325/history-calling-women-shrill/

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Isn't it funny how no one ever complains about Bill O' Reilly's voice or Hannity's voice or any other male host? Hmm.

There are a couple of women on CNN with awful voices. I cannot think of their names right now. Allyson Camerata's voice is very nice, though. Dana Bash is fine, too.

Megyn Kelly's voice is excellent for television. But, I agree that Conway's voice is not pleasant--but she is not a reporter or journalist. I don't think it sexist to complain about a voice that makes you want to turn off the television.

I don't like Hillary--but her voice is not offensive.

Remarkably not self.aware that you don't see it is only women whose voices "make you want to turn off the television" and then claim it isn't sexism. Sigh.

I felt like if you didn't listen to what she was saying and the cognitive dissonance, she seemed very rational. The fact that she stayed calm was a plus for her. I could definitely see her having a career as a pundit after this election.

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"Spew" implies that she is not fair. She is partisan, but fair. She gave Conway the opportunity to come on her show and make her case in a respectful manner. That is more than I can say for O'Reilly, who is very rude to guests who don't agree with him and who regularly states things that are plainly untrue.

you've got to be on the extreme far left of the spectrum to believe Rachel Maddow is 'fair'. Get back to us when she criticizes and bashes Clinton (or any elected Democrat in the favor of Media Matters)

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Listening to her hypernasal voice makes me want to jump through the TV and tell scream, "stop talking through your nose"! That, coupled with her message, also makes me want to punch her in her nose. So, no, I try to never watch her.

Isn't it funny how no one ever complains about Bill O' Reilly's voice or Hannity's voice or any other male host? Hmm.

Why would it be funny? And people complain about their tone constantly. Or are you just trying to inject some -ist bait in this thread?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Listening to her hypernasal voice makes me want to jump through the TV and tell scream, "stop talking through your nose"! That, coupled with her message, also makes me want to punch her in her nose. So, no, I try to never watch her.

Isn't it funny how no one ever complains about Bill O' Reilly's voice or Hannity's voice or any other male host? Hmm.

I might if I listened to them but I don't.

Really? You've never heard a male host on TV or Radio? Amazing.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Listening to her hypernasal voice makes me want to jump through the TV and tell scream, "stop talking through your nose"! That, coupled with her message, also makes me want to punch her in her nose. So, no, I try to never watch her.

Isn't it funny how no one ever complains about Bill O' Reilly's voice or Hannity's voice or any other male host? Hmm.

I might if I listened to them but I don't.