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Anonymous wrote:So, people associated with BLM get upset when their group is criticized and accused of inciting violence because a few rogue actors chant disgusting things and some even act on it.
But, the supporters say that you cannot paint BLM with such a broad brush because of the actions of a few.

That is precisely what Dyson does in this article. He has painted “White America” with the same broad brush. “White America” is prejudiced and blind to the struggles of the black man, according to Dyson.
Mr. Dyson has no idea how I was raised, what I was taught, or how I feel as a white person.

I have no idea how you were raised but I can surmise by your comments that your empathy is minimal. Words have power. Yours and Dyson's.

The PP is simply pointing out a fact. Dyson's article - poorly and simplistically written - makes the same blanket generalization throughout this piece. not any different from someone blasting all BLM supporters for "being the same"

Dyson wants to incite racial hatred. Any good writer would use harder stats INSTEAD of repetition to prove a point.

an emotional appeal

I think Dyson's article wasn't a particularly well written or conceptualized article, but I do not for a moment think that his intent was to incite racial hatred. I think he was expressing deep frustration and deep anger, and attempting to post challenges to white America to take responsibility for what must at the very least feel like willful ignorance of the pain and suffering that many African Americans feel.

In the 60s, Martin Luther King Jr. was labeled a communist and troublemaker for wanting some of the same things that Dyson speaks of. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

And when you examine HOW King crafted his speeches, he used eloquent language, included multiple allusions, examined patterns, and focused on productive measures. Dyson's piece wasn't constructive in the least bit.

I'm not saying that the truth be covered up. But you don't throw punches at "white America" again and again and hope that people will listen. He turned away quite a few, I imagine. Furthermore, his ending didn't strengthen his cause. It simply empowered whites.

We cannot hate you, not really, not most of us; that is our gift to you. We cannot halt you; that is our curse.

really? I doubt he spent much time on this. Nevertheless, I CAN understand (and appreciate) that this HAD to be a timely piece. However, most well-written pieces begin as rants and are later reshaped in order to engage a specific audience member. He engaged his black audience. Was that his intent? Or did he mean to teach white America a lesson?

If it's the former, then yes, he meant to incite anger b/c his piece certainly wan't peaceful, nor was it conducive to constructive discussions.

White America either tuned out or got angry.

Anonymous wrote:If calling for better accountability for LE is "inciting violence towards police", then hell yes they incited violence. I hope more newspapers call out for reforms.

If anyone who reads police reform or brutality opinions takes away from it a call to harm officers then we really need to improve reading comprehension in this country.

BLM is a nonviolent movement that has some people who do not drink all the NV kool-aid. The civil rights movement involving MLK Jr was also a NV movement in which some members did not adhere to the NB Koolaid. Like then, as with now, many many people lambasted MLK and the civil rights movement as white hate. The accused The leaders of the civil rights movement of inciting violence. The J Edgar investigated the CR groups as subversive and anti American. Today we are hearing the same accusations about BLM. As with the CRG of the 50s and 60s, BLM is only saying treat Blacks fairly and stop killing them under the guise of law. As it was then, as it is now there are people who think Blaxk people
Should just accept the injustices and move on. The more things change, the more things stay the same. Today instead of the Bull
Connors we have the officers of Castille, Rodney King, John ,Crawford, Eric Garner, and Tamir Rice. Today, we also have the descendants of those white people justifying the acts of the Bull Connors defending the likes of such actions in 2016. Different name, different time, but the same damn thang.

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Anonymous wrote:Before the Dallas shootings, the New York Times was prominently featuring this rage-filled and hateful article by a black Georgetown professor, full of venom directed at "white America," on its web page:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/10/opinion/sunday/what-white-america-fails-to-see.html?mabReward=A5&action=click&pgtype=Homepage®ion=CColumn&module=Recommendation&src=rechp&WT.nav=RecEngine&_r=0

After the shootings, the Times starting to bury the article, and no longer feature it on its web page.

It's a disgraceful, overtly racist article that, at least in my opinion, should never have been published and ought to lead to Georgetown's promptly severing any and all ties with Mr. Dyson. It is inconceivable that the Times would have printed any article by a white author purporting to diagnose the pathologies of "Black America," "Hispanic America," or "Jewish America" in such broad, crude terms. But it was happy to print Dyson's article. The rich liberals who run the Times need to take a hard look at themselves now and ask whether they have promoted racial discord and violence, by publishing such vile drivel.

No, OP. The NYT didn't incite anything. Nor did it "bury" anything -- content loses freshness after time and is replaced with newer content.

Let's keep the focus on where it belongs: Badly trained and trigger happy police forces that disproportionately target black people for violence. Thank you for your cooperation in that.

Should blacks stop being policed? You say disproportionately target. What is the correct ratio for you? What guidelines would you give departments? I'm sure they are weary of this too. Should black motorists get a pass? Should black neighborhoods be left unpoliced? If a black suspect is called in as often happens with DC street robberies, let it go? I am guessing in a city like DC - the majority of people arrested are AA. A disproportionate amount of AA poor compared to non AA or rich. How do we get those numbers down to your satisfaction? I am ot being facetious - just what exactly do you desire on that issue from the police?

And by the way, I totally get it raising revenue from petty crimes and I am very sympathetic to that. But your rhetoric demands more than not issuing jaywalking tickets to blacks in small towns, or is it that simple?

DP I think Blacks want to be policed at the same level you and your white kids are policed. If a police officer smells marijuana on your white kid and all he does is give him a stern talk and then call the parents to pick him up, I would expect the police tondo the same for the Black kid. Unfortunately, the Black Kid is more likely to get handcuffed, booked, arraigned, enter guilty plea for possession and have a criminal record that follows him for life. It's incidences like this that shows the gap between white and blacks criminal justice interactions

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Anonymous wrote:No, I don't think the NYT article incited violence.

Nor do I think that this article was particularly good, to be honest. Not sociology-professor-from-Georgetown-level good.

Even though I think that, yes, everyone has a lot of work to do--Whites maybe especially--to open our eyes to what is going on, and what we an do about it in a constructive, equitable, reparational way.

How about reparations for coal miners un Appalachia? Chinese who worked on the railroad? Japanese interned? White sweat shop descendants? Everyone has suffered; everyone has hope . Except in limited cases (GU trackng down the descendants of sold enslaved workers is interesting, though I dont think they owe them money) I am tired of this culture of victimization. I think it has gotten us to this precipice. Left is truly a glass is half empty, bankrupt philosophy.

The Chinese were paid for their labor on the railroad. They were not slaves, but los wage workers. The interned Japanese were given reparations. Coal
Miners in Appalachia are laid to work and safety laws created for better work conditions. You lost me with white sweat shop descendants.

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Anonymous wrote:So, people associated with BLM get upset when their group is criticized and accused of inciting violence because a few rogue actors chant disgusting things and some even act on it.
But, the supporters say that you cannot paint BLM with such a broad brush because of the actions of a few.

That is precisely what Dyson does in this article. He has painted “White America” with the same broad brush. “White America” is prejudiced and blind to the struggles of the black man, according to Dyson.
Mr. Dyson has no idea how I was raised, what I was taught, or how I feel as a white person.

I have no idea how you were raised but I can surmise by your comments that your empathy is minimal. Words have power. Yours and Dyson's.

The PP is simply pointing out a fact. Dyson's article - poorly and simplistically written - makes the same blanket generalization throughout this piece. not any different from someone blasting all BLM supporters for "being the same"

Dyson wants to incite racial hatred. Any good writer would use harder stats INSTEAD of repetition to prove a point.

an emotional appeal

I think Dyson's article wasn't a particularly well written or conceptualized article, but I do not for a moment think that his intent was to incite racial hatred. I think he was expressing deep frustration and deep anger, and attempting to post challenges to white America to take responsibility for what must at the very least feel like willful ignorance of the pain and suffering that many African Americans feel.

In the 60s, Martin Luther King Jr. was labeled a communist and troublemaker for wanting some of the same things that Dyson speaks of. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

There are those who are asking the devotees of civil rights, "When will you be satisfied?" We can never be satisfied as long as the Negro is the victim of the unspeakable horrors of police brutality. This comment is from MLK's 1963 'I Have A Dream Speech.' Deemed a communist for his words. 53 years ago and still there is this dysfunctional relationship between African Americans and whites in the 21st century. Generation after generation and the hate continues to be passed on. Sad, indeed.

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Anonymous wrote:So, people associated with BLM get upset when their group is criticized and accused of inciting violence because a few rogue actors chant disgusting things and some even act on it.
But, the supporters say that you cannot paint BLM with such a broad brush because of the actions of a few.

That is precisely what Dyson does in this article. He has painted “White America” with the same broad brush. “White America” is prejudiced and blind to the struggles of the black man, according to Dyson.
Mr. Dyson has no idea how I was raised, what I was taught, or how I feel as a white person.

I have no idea how you were raised but I can surmise by your comments that your empathy is minimal. Words have power. Yours and Dyson's.

The PP is simply pointing out a fact. Dyson's article - poorly and simplistically written - makes the same blanket generalization throughout this piece. not any different from someone blasting all BLM supporters for "being the same"

Dyson wants to incite racial hatred. Any good writer would use harder stats INSTEAD of repetition to prove a point.

an emotional appeal

I think Dyson's article wasn't a particularly well written or conceptualized article, but I do not for a moment think that his intent was to incite racial hatred. I think he was expressing deep frustration and deep anger, and attempting to post challenges to white America to take responsibility for what must at the very least feel like willful ignorance of the pain and suffering that many African Americans feel.

In the 60s, Martin Luther King Jr. was labeled a communist and troublemaker for wanting some of the same things that Dyson speaks of. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

I think we need a Truth and Justice Commission to deal with our nation's history of race relations, starting with slavery. There should be some sort of official apology for slavery and there should be some sort of reparations.

How this could take place, I don't know, but if there's a will...

Without dealing with the roots of racial inequality in our country, we can't eliminate it.

Beliefs come from somewhere. The anger expressed in the NYT article is justified, but obviously, anger alone does not accomplish anything.

Justice will not come in our country until the white majority relinquishes some of its power over blacks. That's a tall order, but necessary if we are to sit down together and start to clear a path toward a future where all minorities are treated fairly and equally by each other. It's possible if we imagine it.

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Anonymous wrote:So, people associated with BLM get upset when their group is criticized and accused of inciting violence because a few rogue actors chant disgusting things and some even act on it.
But, the supporters say that you cannot paint BLM with such a broad brush because of the actions of a few.

That is precisely what Dyson does in this article. He has painted “White America” with the same broad brush. “White America” is prejudiced and blind to the struggles of the black man, according to Dyson.
Mr. Dyson has no idea how I was raised, what I was taught, or how I feel as a white person.

I have no idea how you were raised but I can surmise by your comments that your empathy is minimal. Words have power. Yours and Dyson's.

The PP is simply pointing out a fact. Dyson's article - poorly and simplistically written - makes the same blanket generalization throughout this piece. not any different from someone blasting all BLM supporters for "being the same"

Dyson wants to incite racial hatred. Any good writer would use harder stats INSTEAD of repetition to prove a point.

an emotional appeal

I think Dyson's article wasn't a particularly well written or conceptualized article, but I do not for a moment think that his intent was to incite racial hatred. I think he was expressing deep frustration and deep anger, and attempting to post challenges to white America to take responsibility for what must at the very least feel like willful ignorance of the pain and suffering that many African Americans feel.

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Anonymous wrote:So, people associated with BLM get upset when their group is criticized and accused of inciting violence because a few rogue actors chant disgusting things and some even act on it.
But, the supporters say that you cannot paint BLM with such a broad brush because of the actions of a few.

That is precisely what Dyson does in this article. He has painted “White America” with the same broad brush. “White America” is prejudiced and blind to the struggles of the black man, according to Dyson.
Mr. Dyson has no idea how I was raised, what I was taught, or how I feel as a white person.

I have no idea how you were raised but I can surmise by your comments that your empathy is minimal. Words have power. Yours and Dyson's.

The PP is simply pointing out a fact. Dyson's article - poorly and simplistically written - makes the same blanket generalization throughout this piece. not any different from someone blasting all BLM supporters for "being the same"

Dyson wants to incite racial hatred. Any good writer would use harder stats INSTEAD of repetition to prove a point.

an emotional appeal