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Anonymous wrote:I'm most surprised by the 81 going to UVA. Not just accepted but going. That's almost 20% of the class of 2016 at one school. More than twice as many than to any other school.

They must offer tons of merit aid.

UVA offers very little merit aid, and I doubt any aid based on academics would go to any student not in the top 10% of their HS class.

We didn't get any and our DD was a nominee for the Jefferson Scholarship.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm most surprised by the 81 going to UVA. Not just accepted but going. That's almost 20% of the class of 2016 at one school. More than twice as many than to any other school.

not surprising, in state tuition - a Virginia hs grad going to the state's flagship institution -- seems about right to me.
I'm very sure U.Va. doesn't take 20% of the class from any other Va. high school.

My attitude too. My DS was extremely fortunate to get into UVA early action. He's thrilled. We're thrilled (no financial aid for us). Only 2 from his school got into UVA.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a special TJ bonus ... college admissions offices (especially in Virginia) know about the school and respond accordingly, with admissions offers and financial aid. This is because TJ kids graduate with all honors academic courses (including extra mandatory humanities credits, not just STEM credits), plus about 5 AP classes that are part of the basic required curriculum, several more AP credits, post AP classes, and a major senior research project or mentorship.

I wonder if that means they know about the cheaters at the school?

No, they don't. If they did, the list will look nothing like OP posted. God knows there are many...

I know, right! 99% AP pass rate. Highest average SATs in the country. All those NMSFs and Intel semifinalists. National winners in every academic extracurricular you can think of. State athletic title winners. A student who is a finalist in swimming for the USA Olympic team. Just goes to show ismart kids to pull cheating off cheating on a massive scale. Haters gonna hate...

Just like cheaters will cheat...

That's quit a snappy response that really responds to the substance of the post. Kinda see why your kids did not get into TJ.

Not the PP. And certainly don't want to take away from the many accomplished students at TJ. The school has quite a collection of talented kids as the college list indicates.

That said, there is a cheating problem at TJ despite all that intelligence. Acing standardized tests and acing all the required academics are two different things. Whether the school is dealing with it or not there has been an unfortunate amount of cheating and plagiarizing at the school. And there have been TJ students kicked out of college for those same things. The pressure to succeed on paper is too great for some, apparently.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a special TJ bonus ... college admissions offices (especially in Virginia) know about the school and respond accordingly, with admissions offers and financial aid. This is because TJ kids graduate with all honors academic courses (including extra mandatory humanities credits, not just STEM credits), plus about 5 AP classes that are part of the basic required curriculum, several more AP credits, post AP classes, and a major senior research project or mentorship.

I wonder if that means they know about the cheaters at the school?

No, they don't. If they did, the list will look nothing like OP posted. God knows there are many...

I know, right! 99% AP pass rate. Highest average SATs in the country. All those NMSFs and Intel semifinalists. National winners in every academic extracurricular you can think of. State athletic title winners. A student who is a finalist in swimming for the USA Olympic team. Just goes to show ismart kids to pull cheating off cheating on a massive scale. Haters gonna hate...

Just like cheaters will cheat...

That's quit a snappy response that really responds to the substance of the post. Kinda see why your kids did not get into TJ.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a special TJ bonus ... college admissions offices (especially in Virginia) know about the school and respond accordingly, with admissions offers and financial aid. This is because TJ kids graduate with all honors academic courses (including extra mandatory humanities credits, not just STEM credits), plus about 5 AP classes that are part of the basic required curriculum, several more AP credits, post AP classes, and a major senior research project or mentorship.

I wonder if that means they know about the cheaters at the school?

No, they don't. If they did, the list will look nothing like OP posted. God knows there are many...

I know, right! 99% AP pass rate. Highest average SATs in the country. All those NMSFs and Intel semifinalists. National winners in every academic extracurricular you can think of. State athletic title winners. A student who is a finalist in swimming for the USA Olympic team. Just goes to show ismart kids to pull cheating off cheating on a massive scale. Haters gonna hate...

Just like cheaters will cheat...

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Anonymous wrote:There is a special TJ bonus ... college admissions offices (especially in Virginia) know about the school and respond accordingly, with admissions offers and financial aid. This is because TJ kids graduate with all honors academic courses (including extra mandatory humanities credits, not just STEM credits), plus about 5 AP classes that are part of the basic required curriculum, several more AP credits, post AP classes, and a major senior research project or mentorship.

I wonder if that means they know about the cheaters at the school?

No, they don't. If they did, the list will look nothing like OP posted. God knows there are many...

How you figure. You think? You assume? You're bitter? Do you have any actual evidence of widespread cheating (more than other schools in recent years? If so, link please.

Anonymous wrote:PP hope you fee good about yourself trashing other people's children when you don't actually know what you are talking about. Among other things the number of NMSF and high SAT scores show that the students are really smart - measured objectively against their peers at other schools throughout the country.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:There is a special TJ bonus ... college admissions offices (especially in Virginia) know about the school and respond accordingly, with admissions offers and financial aid. This is because TJ kids graduate with all honors academic courses (including extra mandatory humanities credits, not just STEM credits), plus about 5 AP classes that are part of the basic required curriculum, several more AP credits, post AP classes, and a major senior research project or mentorship.

I wonder if that means they know about the cheaters at the school?

No, they don't. If they did, the list will look nothing like OP posted. God knows there are many...

I know, right! 99% AP pass rate. Highest average SATs in the country. All those NMSFs and Intel semifinalists. National winners in every academic extracurricular you can think of. State athletic title winners. A student who is a finalist in swimming for the USA Olympic team. Just goes to show ismart kids to pull cheating off cheating on a massive scale. Haters gonna hate...

PP hope you fee good about yourself trashing other people's children when you don't actually know what you are talking about. Among other things the number of NMSF and high SAT scores show that the students are really smart - measured objectively against their peers at other schools throughout the country.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a special TJ bonus ... college admissions offices (especially in Virginia) know about the school and respond accordingly, with admissions offers and financial aid. This is because TJ kids graduate with all honors academic courses (including extra mandatory humanities credits, not just STEM credits), plus about 5 AP classes that are part of the basic required curriculum, several more AP credits, post AP classes, and a major senior research project or mentorship.

I wonder if that means they know about the cheaters at the school?

No, they don't. If they did, the list will look nothing like OP posted. God knows there are many...

Anonymous wrote:There is a special TJ bonus ... college admissions offices (especially in Virginia) know about the school and respond accordingly, with admissions offers and financial aid. This is because TJ kids graduate with all honors academic courses (including extra mandatory humanities credits, not just STEM credits), plus about 5 AP classes that are part of the basic required curriculum, several more AP credits, post AP classes, and a major senior research project or mentorship.

I wonder if that means they know about the cheaters at the school?

There is a special TJ bonus ... college admissions offices (especially in Virginia) know about the school and respond accordingly, with admissions offers and financial aid. This is because TJ kids graduate with all honors academic courses (including extra mandatory humanities credits, not just STEM credits), plus about 5 AP classes that are part of the basic required curriculum, several more AP credits, post AP classes, and a major senior research project or mentorship.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm most surprised by the 81 going to UVA. Not just accepted but going. That's almost 20% of the class of 2016 at one school. More than twice as many than to any other school.

They must offer tons of merit aid.

UVA offers very little merit aid, and I doubt any aid based on academics would go to any student not in the top 10% of their HS class.

I didn't think TJ ranked? I'm assuming that the vast majority of TJ applicants are more qualified than applicants from other HSs. If they rocked their grades/tests/ECs then why wouldn't they get merit aid. Even if others in their class did a little better than them.

Or maybe the in-state tuition is still so low compared to better schools that they feel compelled to go to UVA for financial reasons.

Anonymous wrote:Why do you assume that the lower half of TJ kids get significant merit aid? I assume they are treated as any other applicant. There is no special TJ bonus.

Top 25 to top 50 universities are eager to recruit TJ graduates and often award substantial merit aid regardless of whether they are in top 20% or not.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm most surprised by the 81 going to UVA. Not just accepted but going. That's almost 20% of the class of 2016 at one school. More than twice as many than to any other school.

They must offer tons of merit aid.

UVA offers very little merit aid, and I doubt any aid based on academics would go to any student not in the top 10% of their HS class.