Anonymous
Post 06/24/2016 13:47     Subject: How are Mormons so nice?
How hard is it to join the mormon church? Can one hang out with mormons and feel them out for as long as it takes before one makes any commitment?
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2016 13:47     Subject: How are Mormons so nice?
Very high rates of anti-depressant use and suicide among Later-Day Saints members.

Also, the highest rate of plastic surgery in the nation is in Utah. (particularly breast implants).

Mormon women are under incredible pressure to be perfect, look perfect, etc.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2016 13:40     Subject: How are Mormons so nice?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have known a group of Mormon lawyers for almost a decade and not one has ever gossiped, shirked work, boasted, been caught in a lie, or lost their temper to my knowledge. I have been to their houses, met their wives, worked closely with them on miserable cases with long days, late nights, and awful colleagues. I have seen them each under extreme pressure and in unfair situations. Yet, they have been unfailingly kind, patient, calm, and good.

How is this possible?

There is literally no one else I have ever known who has kept up such exemplary behavior for even a week. Not even other religious people I know (who profess to have the "joy of the Lord" and other such nonsense, but are worse than most athiests and agnostics who profess no such moral standards).

I don't have a religious bone in my body, but I would love to learn how to maintain such exemplary behavior. I would also love to teach it to my kids.


I feel like there is a joke in there somewhere...


I used to work with a Mormon woman. Don't acknowledge your emotions. Women are to "keep sweet." (Think Michelle Duggar.) Boys showing unacceptable emotions can be severely punished. Anyone who has difficulty maintaining the proper image can be kicked out of the family. The Lord doesn't want to witness negative thoughts or behavior, so you don't do it or you will disappoint him. Some of the men may have it under control in public, but it comes out at home.

They maintain the image you see because they are not allowed to acknowledge any emotion but joy. Of course some would have that personality anyway, but if it doesn't come naturally it is trained into them. Anything but joy is "given to God" and then let go. Supposedly. You don't admit to it, anyway. How do you do that without religion?


You're thinking of another religion here. I am 100% Mormon, my whole life. And none of this is recognizable to me. Not even like"oh yeah, I can see that now that you mention it."


No, I'm not. She was a Mormon, not raised with it but raised her kids with it.

Anonymous
Post 06/24/2016 12:36     Subject: How are Mormons so nice?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The highest rate of Prozac use is by Utah women.


I don't believe that. Don't post lies.


I hate using this line but . . . Google is your friend.


http://archive.sltrib.com/story.php?ref=/sltrib/home/50291053-76/utah-women-depression-antidepressants.html.csp
Nearly 1 in 5 Utah women use antidepressants
By Heather May The Salt Lake Tribune
Published September 16, 2010 12:37 pm




http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/02/living/lisa-ling-mormon-drug-abuse-essay/
Inside Utah's struggle with drug abuse
By Lisa Ling, Special to CNN
Updated 3:36 AM ET, Mon October 6, 2014

I met Shannon last year when she had just arrived in Los Angeles from her hometown of Salt Lake City with her 10-month-old baby. I was surprised to learn why she left the predominantly Mormon state known for its clean, healthy lifestyle to move to a city known for life's excesses.

The young mother said she was trying to escape from what she called "an epidemic." She said that Utah "was drowning in prescription pill addiction." Shannon divulged that she had actually been abusing heroin for some time, but -- as with most people with addiction problems in Utah -- it all started with pills.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2016 12:31     Subject: How are Mormons so nice?
Emotions, passion, jealousy, anger, these are all what make us human OP. Some are good, some are bad, but whenever a large group of people is supressing them, I think there's usually something less than savory going on behind closed doors.

Like it or not the natural state of a human is not 'pod person'
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2016 12:26     Subject: How are Mormons so nice?
We had 3 Mormon nannies and a bunch of babysitters. They were as the op describes: kind, warm, loving, and good natured. Interestingly, they were totally non-judgemental - we could leave wine bottles on the kitchen counter and shed kindly rinse them out and place them into recycling.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2016 12:26     Subject: How are Mormons so nice?
It is very difficult for gay Mormon children. It is also very difficult for young people who do not get married right away - during or right after college, or women with real career aspirations. If you do not fit in with the family model perfectly, it can be a challenging environment to stay in. When we go to family events, everyone is nice but no one would ever ask about my relatively high-powered job, interests or life outside my kids. Luckily our home teachers are more professional themselves, although we usually still just talk about the kids and vacations and my husband's work. I think the mentality is very ingrained. Even the individual sermons seem to follow a strict outline.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2016 12:19     Subject: How are Mormons so nice?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Related to this topic, I am fascinated by the fact that so many successful bloggers are Mormon.


Mommy bloggers? I'm not surprised. The community has a lot of well-educated women (usually with college and advanced degrees) that are discouraged from working traditional jobs outside the home. So the blogging part is a natural fit. That's also why a huge number of "sell from home" companies that sell purses, kitchen stuff, etc. are based in Utah and recruit Mormon women to sell to their friends.


It's considered good for their faith to push their happy lifestyle, just look for the "I believe" on their website. And they all promote each other, they seem to only have Mormon friends, such as Naomi from the Love Taza blog.

OTOH, my friend only hires Mormom nannies because she said they are by far the most patient, loving and best workers and she's willing to pay much more for one. Her problem has been they keep getting married so young, but apparently in DMV there is a large group of young Mormon women working as nannies.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2016 12:16     Subject: How are Mormons so nice?
There is an entire song/ number about this in the Book of Mormon musical called Turn it Off

https://youtu.be/Of5cgecGIhg
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2016 12:09     Subject: Re:How are Mormons so nice?
OP here. I can actually understand a religious sect shutting out someone who rejects the sect's values and leaves. What do you think enables the nice ones to be so nice?


Really? You can understand people shutting out their children or their childhood friends because they are no longer religious? Interesting....

Conformity is key - don't rock the boat - be sweet - don't ask questions - stuff those emotions.

None of the Mormons posting here have anything to say about the class divides in the Mormon church??? Pay more, get more?
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2016 12:05     Subject: How are Mormons so nice?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The highest rate of Prozac use is by Utah women.


I don't believe that. Don't post lies.


It's not a lie: http://articles.latimes.com/2002/feb/20/news/mn-28924

Two studies found that Utah has the highest rate of antidepressant use, although it wasn't broken down by gender: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=4403731&page=1



Anonymous
Post 06/24/2016 12:04     Subject: How are Mormons so nice?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The highest rate of Prozac use is by Utah women.


I don't believe that. Don't post lies.


There are less robust later studies that find the same thing.

http://articles.latimes.com/2002/feb/20/news/mn-28924
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2016 11:57     Subject: How are Mormons so nice?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have known a group of Mormon lawyers for almost a decade and not one has ever gossiped, shirked work, boasted, been caught in a lie, or lost their temper to my knowledge. I have been to their houses, met their wives, worked closely with them on miserable cases with long days, late nights, and awful colleagues. I have seen them each under extreme pressure and in unfair situations. Yet, they have been unfailingly kind, patient, calm, and good.

How is this possible?

There is literally no one else I have ever known who has kept up such exemplary behavior for even a week. Not even other religious people I know (who profess to have the "joy of the Lord" and other such nonsense, but are worse than most athiests and agnostics who profess no such moral standards).

I don't have a religious bone in my body, but I would love to learn how to maintain such exemplary behavior. I would also love to teach it to my kids.


I feel like there is a joke in there somewhere...


I used to work with a Mormon woman. Don't acknowledge your emotions. Women are to "keep sweet." (Think Michelle Duggar.) Boys showing unacceptable emotions can be severely punished. Anyone who has difficulty maintaining the proper image can be kicked out of the family. The Lord doesn't want to witness negative thoughts or behavior, so you don't do it or you will disappoint him. Some of the men may have it under control in public, but it comes out at home.

They maintain the image you see because they are not allowed to acknowledge any emotion but joy. Of course some would have that personality anyway, but if it doesn't come naturally it is trained into them. Anything but joy is "given to God" and then let go. Supposedly. You don't admit to it, anyway. How do you do that without religion?


You're thinking of another religion here. I am 100% Mormon, my whole life. And none of this is recognizable to me. Not even like"oh yeah, I can see that now that you mention it."
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2016 11:54     Subject: How are Mormons so nice?
Anonymous wrote:The highest rate of Prozac use is by Utah women.


I don't believe that. Don't post lies.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2016 11:47     Subject: How are Mormons so nice?
Anonymous wrote:Related to this topic, I am fascinated by the fact that so many successful bloggers are Mormon.


Mommy bloggers? I'm not surprised. The community has a lot of well-educated women (usually with college and advanced degrees) that are discouraged from working traditional jobs outside the home. So the blogging part is a natural fit. That's also why a huge number of "sell from home" companies that sell purses, kitchen stuff, etc. are based in Utah and recruit Mormon women to sell to their friends.