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Anonymous wrote:You don't. Unemployment isn't available if you quit. So don't do it, OP. Insist on being fired or laid off.

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They don't want to pay unemployment which is why they asked you to resign. Make them fire you.

Or they are giving you the opportunity to resign so when your next job calls for a reference they don't have to say they fired you.

I doubt they give a shit. I can't imagine any other reason than to not have to pay unemployment. Either quit, or perhaps you can call your state's labor office to see if the scenario described by a PP (letter stating you are resigning as requested ) would suffice for them. If it's a yes, get the name and ID of the person you speak with.

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In my experience this is why companies offer to let people resign instead of firing them as well.
People resign without another job lined up for types of reasons. It's an easier sell than being fired.

You do realize that being "asked to resign" is the same as being fired, right? You're being involuntarily separated from your job.

People here are so incredibly stupid.

You do realize that once you resign the reasons you resigned don't matter and you can honestly state in any interview or job application that you've never been fired?
Agree about the incredibly stupid people...

Anonymous wrote:I can't imagine if they asked you to resign that you loved your job or that you didn't have misgivings already.

This happened to me with a terrible boss, at a place I dreaded going every day. Nevertheless, it's still crushing. I was scared to tell my husband. I felt like a loser.

My husband looked at me when I told him - I was fully expecting him to be upset with me. I said, "I failed." He said, "so?" It was freeing enough to go back to school, get an advanced degree, and now I make a lot more in a better suited role.

Like the other poster mentioned, this could be opening doors in places you wouldn't have otherwise risked or looked because you were stuck in a job that didn't fit with you in the first place. I'm sorry this happened to you, it's hard to have perspective when this happens. Good luck.

This is me. I just started a job at an organization I really wanted to work for. But my boss is awful, and has pushed several people out. I know he's gunning for me, even though I've been there less than 90 days. I'm working hard, getting up to speed, and pulling long hours. When I started, there was an extensive interview process, and everyone from HR to the department staff said to expect a steep learning curve, and that I would be supported and trained. Never happened.

So I go in, feeling ill everyday, and dreading every nasty email he sends me about my work. His comments are personal and there is no mentorship or guidance. I'm pretty sure I'm getting fired before the 90 day mark, but want to negotiate another month of health insurance for me and my kids.

I will be happier at a different job, but right now I feel utterly demoralized. I've never been fired for cause or laid off in my life.

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In my experience this is why companies offer to let people resign instead of firing them as well.
People resign without another job lined up for types of reasons. It's an easier sell than being fired.

You do realize that being "asked to resign" is the same as being fired, right? You're being involuntarily separated from your job.

People here are so incredibly stupid.

I was fired from a job I liked twenty years ago for reasons unrelated to me (new manager wanted to hire friends). I did not file for unemployment because I was young, embarrassed, and stupid. I earned the UP and wish I had filed.

Since then, no job, or grad school application or internship, anything has asked me about being fired. If I was asked at this point, I'd say a new manager came in with a different vision for the team, resulting in many large changes, including layoffs.

Anonymous wrote:How do you file for unemployment if you are asked to resign? Couldn't she only apply if she was laid off? I truly don't know the answer to that (not being snarky).

She was technically fired. I think most folks would understand that.

semantics

NP here. Was in a new position that didn't work out culture=wise with the client (govt - defense); was put on a PIP so I knew my days were numbered.

When the call came from my company's HQ they encouraged me to resign but I refused so they terminated me.

I am currently drawing unemployment and don't look forward to going back into that environment but in this day and age I really don't think it's a black eye to have a slight gap in employment.

Case in point -- with VEC you have to apply for at least two jobs a week; I'm getting responses to my applications that I don't reply to because I want to take time off and enjoy our kids.

Point being -- don't resign and don't feel bad to be terminated. No one needs to know - all HR can do is verify you worked at your last place of employment.

No job application I've filled out has asked for reason of leaving my last job. And if asked I would say bad cultural fit and personal reasons.

Good luck OP!

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Anonymous wrote:I think I'd rather resign than be fired. At least you can spin a resignation in your favor. It's harder to justify being fired when applying for new jobs.

How would they know the difference?

DH opted for being fired.

I told a former employer that I would not quit and they would have to fire me. Didn't hurt me getting a new job at all. AND I got unemployment.

Have you since applied for a federal government or federal contractor job? Most of them have the question about whether you have been fired or terminated for cause. Also, as a federal contractor, it was on the form I needed to complete to get my federal credentials to access federal IT systems.

Not the PP. My brother was fired once. He applied for a feb contract job, got the job and secret clearance.

Just be honest.

Was your brother honest? Did he have to explain? I was fired by a company that was struggling many years ago. I got unemployment. I've always felt it's been lurking in my background . Currently interviewing for a job that uses a Hire Right type place for background check. They gave me bad reviews; there was a personality conflict, but the company was also seriously struggling financially (they had cut our pay).

I can't imagine if they asked you to resign that you loved your job or that you didn't have misgivings already.

This happened to me with a terrible boss, at a place I dreaded going every day. Nevertheless, it's still crushing. I was scared to tell my husband. I felt like a loser.

My husband looked at me when I told him - I was fully expecting him to be upset with me. I said, "I failed." He said, "so?" It was freeing enough to go back to school, get an advanced degree, and now I make a lot more in a better suited role.

Like the other poster mentioned, this could be opening doors in places you wouldn't have otherwise risked or looked because you were stuck in a job that didn't fit with you in the first place. I'm sorry this happened to you, it's hard to have perspective when this happens. Good luck.

Anonymous wrote:Hmm. Sometimes they ask you to resign to help you out. My organization asked someone to resign-- he was doing a terrible job and clients were complaining. We gave him the option to resign hoping that it would allow for better future employment opportunities. It also allowed him to extend his last day of work and therefore prolong his health insurance by another month. Had he refused, we would have fired him, and he would not have been able to prolong his insurance, which covered his entire family. We gave him the option, but firing him would not have been more difficult for us.

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In my experience this is why companies offer to let people resign instead of firing them as well.
People resign without another job lined up for types of reasons. It's an easier sell than being fired.

Hmm. Sometimes they ask you to resign to help you out. My organization asked someone to resign-- he was doing a terrible job and clients were complaining. We gave him the option to resign hoping that it would allow for better future employment opportunities. It also allowed him to extend his last day of work and therefore prolong his health insurance by another month. Had he refused, we would have fired him, and he would not have been able to prolong his insurance, which covered his entire family. We gave him the option, but firing him would not have been more difficult for us.