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Anonymous wrote:I found this NYT article interesting. It breaks things down by school district:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/04/29/upshot/money-race-and-success-how-your-school-district-compares.html?_r=0

That is interesting. The only school district with white families richer than DCPS is Arlington and the only school districts with white students who do better than DCPS are Atlanta, Chapel Hill and Evanston. The Atlanta one is a surprise and probably has the same kind of effect going on as does DCPS where there are relatively few whites but the ones that attend are high up on the SES ladder.

Your broad point is true. As for the Atlanta and Chicago performing better than DCPS, that appears to be a one-year blip. DCPS white scores are significantly above those of Chicago and Atlanta in every other year for which I've seen data (going back to 2003). I don't have data on Chapel Hill, but I'd caution that the same may be true there too. In general, white scores in DCPS are the best in the nation (for which I've seen data). Full stop.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. So why are people always claiming that MoCo and N. Arlington are so much better? Though true those are statewide scores...can we see a county breakdown

Yes, true, this compares DC to states, but you can compare DC to major highly-regarded school districts like NYC, San Diego, Austin, etc. and the result holds: white students in DC outperform white students in all other school districts for which I've seen data.

Me again. You can compare district-level data at this link: http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/districts/

Select a district and go to the "Snapshot Report" on the right. That gives breakdown by race.

So, lucky us, we get the smartest white kids. Do we also get the smartest black ones?

Of course. It's just more challenging to disaggregate them because high SES isn't a demographic category on standardized tests.

I'm not sure if this is the case. Per my upper 16th St. neighbors, the smartest black kids have historically gone private. Now they're mostly at a mix of private and charters, with a smattering in a few DCPS schools.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I found this NYT article interesting. It breaks things down by school district:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/04/29/upshot/money-race-and-success-how-your-school-district-compares.html?_r=0

Am I reading this correctly? Does this mean for DCPS students in the same grade that the average White child is almost 5 grades ahead of the average Black child?

Again, thank God there are white students in DCPS.

Otherwise we'd be Detroit.

PLEASE GO AWAY!!

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. So why are people always claiming that MoCo and N. Arlington are so much better? Though true those are statewide scores...can we see a county breakdown

Yes, true, this compares DC to states, but you can compare DC to major highly-regarded school districts like NYC, San Diego, Austin, etc. and the result holds: white students in DC outperform white students in all other school districts for which I've seen data.

Me again. You can compare district-level data at this link: http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/districts/

Select a district and go to the "Snapshot Report" on the right. That gives breakdown by race.

So, lucky us, we get the smartest white kids. Do we also get the smartest black ones?

Of course. It's just more challenging to disaggregate them because high SES isn't a demographic category on standardized tests.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I found this NYT article interesting. It breaks things down by school district:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/04/29/upshot/money-race-and-success-how-your-school-district-compares.html?_r=0

Am I reading this correctly? Does this mean for DCPS students in the same grade that the average White child is almost 5 grades ahead of the average Black child?

Again, thank God there are white students in DCPS.

Otherwise we'd be Detroit.

Anonymous wrote:I found this NYT article interesting. It breaks things down by school district:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/04/29/upshot/money-race-and-success-how-your-school-district-compares.html?_r=0

Am I reading this correctly? Does this mean for DCPS students in the same grade that the average White child is almost 5 grades ahead of the average Black child?

Anonymous wrote:I found this NYT article interesting. It breaks things down by school district:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/04/29/upshot/money-race-and-success-how-your-school-district-compares.html?_r=0

Thanks for sharing! Confirms what we all knew but sad nevertheless.

Anonymous wrote:I found this NYT article interesting. It breaks things down by school district:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/04/29/upshot/money-race-and-success-how-your-school-district-compares.html?_r=0

That is interesting. The only school district with white families richer than DCPS is Arlington and the only school districts with white students who do better than DCPS are Atlanta, Chapel Hill and Evanston. The Atlanta one is a surprise and probably has the same kind of effect going on as does DCPS where there are relatively few whites but the ones that attend are high up on the SES ladder.

Anonymous wrote:I found this NYT article interesting. It breaks things down by school district:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/04/29/upshot/money-race-and-success-how-your-school-district-compares.html?_r=0

Also by race and money. You can see huge disparities exist in DC, Arl, and MoCo.

I found this NYT article interesting. It breaks things down by school district:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/04/29/upshot/money-race-and-success-how-your-school-district-compares.html?_r=0

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. So why are people always claiming that MoCo and N. Arlington are so much better? Though true those are statewide scores...can we see a county breakdown

White kids in DC are overwhelmingly from wealthy educated families. They will do well anywhere. It's teaching the rest of the kids that shows how strong a school system is. Also standardized tests aren't everything. Those white kids in DC may be passing at a higher rate than their counterparts (in everywhere else in the US where there are middle class and poor white kids) but that doesn't mean they are better off in dcps.

White kids at Whitman are overwhelmingly from wealthy educated families. They will do well anywhere. It's teaching the rest of the kids that shows how strong a school system is. Also standardized tests aren't everything. Those white kids in Whitman may be passing at a higher rate than their counterparts but that doesn't mean they are better off in MCPS.

When Kennedy = Whitman I'll slurp the MCPS special sauce.

Anonymous wrote:This data is for 4th grade. Any data for higher grades?

8th grade reading:
http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/statecomparisons/withinyear.aspx?usrSelections=1%2cRED%2c1%2c0%2cwithin%2c0%2c0

8th grade math:
http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/statecomparisons/withinyear.aspx?usrSelections=1%2cMAT%2c1%2c0%2cwithin%2c0%2c0

This data is for 4th grade. Any data for higher grades?

Anonymous wrote:Resourced kids from wealthier, educated families are generally going to perform well. In DCPS, these kids are mostly white. This is true of any school system. DC is a bit unique in that a high # of its wealthy families are very educated; in wealthy pockets of Houston, or LA, or Miami, education probably isn't tied to wealth as closely. So DCPS' rich white students are the tops, academically.

WHO CARES.

I think the point is many MoCo and nova parents will look down their noses at people buying in DC as if DC schools will actually do damage on rich white kids. The validation is this is not true. You can really have it all.

Anonymous wrote:Resourced kids from wealthier, educated families are generally going to perform well. In DCPS, these kids are mostly white. This is true of any school system. DC is a bit unique in that a high # of its wealthy families are very educated; in wealthy pockets of Houston, or LA, or Miami, education probably isn't tied to wealth as closely. So DCPS' rich white students are the tops, academically.

WHO CARES.

I already answered this question upthread: the white highly educated successful parent who has to make a decision about where to buy a home for $1.25M
And who plan to use public school.

You posters not in this demographic can sneer, but there are a lot of us.