Anonymous
06/06/2016 08:23
Subject: That Brock Allen Turner is a dirtbag
Yes, women should be able to get drunk and not be raped, killed, tortured, etc.
Anonymous
06/06/2016 08:23
Subject: That Brock Allen Turner is a dirtbag
So many rape apologists here. Hopefully you guys don't have daughters .
Anonymous
06/06/2016 08:22
Subject: That Brock Allen Turner is a dirtbag
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can understand the sentence. It was basically a hookup at a frat party gone wrong. It doesn't make sense to send one party to prison for years.. There's no way to know when she became unconscious, but it was probably later rather than sooner.
No, IT WAS A RAPE, you idiot
Do you think a woman ever bears any responsibility re staying sober, not trusting drunk strangers, not walking down a street at 2 a.m. alone, etc? We're not doing any favors to perpetuate the myth that women can be and do anything they want and go anywhere they want without being responsible for their own safety to the degree possible. That's beyond naive and truly not very smart.
I think you may have left out "wear whatever they want"...since the rest of your argument is so very ridiculous.
So women should have curfews, never drink more than one drink and only talk to people they know? Your are a genius!
Anonymous
06/06/2016 08:21
Subject: That Brock Allen Turner is a dirtbag
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can understand the sentence. It was basically a hookup at a frat party gone wrong. It doesn't make sense to send one party to prison for years.. There's no way to know when she became unconscious, but it was probably later rather than sooner.
No, IT WAS A RAPE, you idiot
Do you think a woman ever bears any responsibility re staying sober, not trusting drunk strangers, not walking down a street at 2 a.m. alone, etc? We're not doing any favors to perpetuate the myth that women can be and do anything they want and go anywhere they want without being responsible for their own safety to the degree possible. That's beyond naive and truly not very smart.
Of course we should be teaching young people how reality plays out. It was stupid what she did, but it was not an illegal violation of another person.
Anonymous
06/06/2016 08:18
Subject: That Brock Allen Turner is a dirtbag
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can understand the sentence. It was basically a hookup at a frat party gone wrong. It doesn't make sense to send one party to prison for years.. There's no way to know when she became unconscious, but it was probably later rather than sooner.
No, IT WAS A RAPE, you idiot
Do you think a woman ever bears any responsibility re staying sober, not trusting drunk strangers, not walking down a street at 2 a.m. alone, etc? We're not doing any favors to perpetuate the myth that women can be and do anything they want and go anywhere they want without being responsible for their own safety to the degree possible. That's beyond naive and truly not very smart.
Anonymous
06/06/2016 08:13
Subject: That Brock Allen Turner is a dirtbag
Anonymous wrote:I can understand the sentence. It was basically a hookup at a frat party gone wrong. It doesn't make sense to send one party to prison for years.. There's no way to know when she became unconscious, but it was probably later rather than sooner.
No, IT WAS A RAPE, you idiot
Anonymous
06/06/2016 08:12
Subject: That Brock Allen Turner is a dirtbag
I can understand the sentence. It was basically a hookup at a frat party gone wrong. It doesn't make sense to send one party to prison for years.. There's no way to know when she became unconscious, but it was probably later rather than sooner.
Anonymous
06/06/2016 08:01
Subject: That Brock Allen Turner is a dirtbag
So let's say he was super drunk and raped a girl because he was drunk. A decent human being would feel bad about it when sober and admit wrongdoing. He didn't.
And what if he was so drunk he mutilated her afterward? Still ok?
You can't just do whatever you want because you're drunk. Her crime would be intoxication and whatever goes along with that. His crime was rape and whatever goes along with that.
And what if he was so drunk he mutilated her afterward? Still ok?
You can't just do whatever you want because you're drunk. Her crime would be intoxication and whatever goes along with that. His crime was rape and whatever goes along with that.
Anonymous
06/06/2016 07:56
Subject: Re:That Brock Allen Turner is a dirtbag
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The guy and the girl were both drunk off their asses. I feel sorry for both of them that they made such bad decisions.
Nice false equivalence there. You should really read the victim's impact statement.
"Alcohol is not an excuse. Is it a factor? Yes. But alcohol was not the one who stripped me, fingered me, had my head dragging against the ground, with me almost fully naked. Having too much to drink was an amateur mistake that I admit to, but it is not criminal. Everyone in this room has had a night where they have regretted drinking too much, or knows someone close to them who has had a night where they have regretted drinking too much. Regretting drinking is not the same as regretting sexual assault. We were both drunk, the difference is I did not take off your pants and underwear, touch you inappropriately, and run away. That’s the difference."
So alcohol was also a factor in his case as well. Would he have done the same stone-cold sober? He has no history of that.
Who gives a shit?!? He did it this time.
Anonymous
06/06/2016 07:55
Subject: That Brock Allen Turner is a dirtbag
Anonymous wrote:
Actually, the father is correct.
Both of them were drunk. Both. She was so drunk, she had no idea of anything, and didn't come-to until she was in the hospital, with no recollection. She was black-out drunk. While no one deserves to be raped, she placed herself in a very dangerous state. I do want to know where her friends were, where her sister was, where ANY responsible person was - probably drunk themselves. It would have been a cold day in hell, in college, when I would have left one of my friends (or a perfect stranger) alone, that dangerously drunk.
His son, in his drunken state, assaulted this girl. Very, very wrong. He IS taking responsibility for his actions. What disturbs me, is not only is she NOT taking responsibility for her own stupidity, but she has all the pity in the world. The net result of that is the message that people can get as stupid-drunk as they want and expect NO harm to come of them. That is NOT a message I have EVER given my children, and ever will.
This statement from the victim? “You took away my worth, my privacy, my energy, my time, my intimacy, my confidence, my own voice, until today,” she read in court from her victim impact statement,
What kind of worth does one have when one is so drunk, one can't even function? What kind of confidence? What kind of intimacy?
And this? "I was the wounded antelope of the herd, completely alone and vulnerable, physically unable to fend for myself, and he chose me."
She completely brushes aside her responsibility in becoming a 'wounded antelope'.
The judge did good in this case.
What is the father correct about? You completely failed to explain.
Anonymous
06/06/2016 07:03
Subject: Re:That Brock Allen Turner is a dirtbag
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The guy and the girl were both drunk off their asses. I feel sorry for both of them that they made such bad decisions.
Nice false equivalence there. You should really read the victim's impact statement.
"Alcohol is not an excuse. Is it a factor? Yes. But alcohol was not the one who stripped me, fingered me, had my head dragging against the ground, with me almost fully naked. Having too much to drink was an amateur mistake that I admit to, but it is not criminal. Everyone in this room has had a night where they have regretted drinking too much, or knows someone close to them who has had a night where they have regretted drinking too much. Regretting drinking is not the same as regretting sexual assault. We were both drunk, the difference is I did not take off your pants and underwear, touch you inappropriately, and run away. That’s the difference."
So alcohol was also a factor in his case as well. Would he have done the same stone-cold sober? He has no history of that.
Anonymous
06/06/2016 06:54
Subject: That Brock Allen Turner is a dirtbag
Actually, the father is correct.
Both of them were drunk. Both. She was so drunk, she had no idea of anything, and didn't come-to until she was in the hospital, with no recollection. She was black-out drunk. While no one deserves to be raped, she placed herself in a very dangerous state. I do want to know where her friends were, where her sister was, where ANY responsible person was - probably drunk themselves. It would have been a cold day in hell, in college, when I would have left one of my friends (or a perfect stranger) alone, that dangerously drunk.
His son, in his drunken state, assaulted this girl. Very, very wrong. He IS taking responsibility for his actions. What disturbs me, is not only is she NOT taking responsibility for her own stupidity, but she has all the pity in the world. The net result of that is the message that people can get as stupid-drunk as they want and expect NO harm to come of them. That is NOT a message I have EVER given my children, and ever will.
This statement from the victim? “You took away my worth, my privacy, my energy, my time, my intimacy, my confidence, my own voice, until today,” she read in court from her victim impact statement,
What kind of worth does one have when one is so drunk, one can't even function? What kind of confidence? What kind of intimacy?
And this? "I was the wounded antelope of the herd, completely alone and vulnerable, physically unable to fend for myself, and he chose me."
She completely brushes aside her responsibility in becoming a 'wounded antelope'.
The judge did good in this case.
Anonymous
06/06/2016 06:45
Subject: Re:That Brock Allen Turner is a dirtbag
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The guy and the girl were both drunk off their asses. I feel sorry for both of them that they made such bad decisions.
The decision to get drunk is nowhere near the magnitude of the decision to rape someone. Many, MANY men get drunk and do not rape anyone.
And this is the huge problem with the way our society views drinking. It's given approval as acceptable, yet we never know for absolutely sure how our bodies will react. Many people can't make a rational decision while drunk. George Huguely is a similar example. It's beyond scary what CAN happen, and lives are ruined forever.
Anonymous
06/06/2016 06:28
Subject: That Brock Allen Turner is a dirtbag
Anonymous wrote:She got blackout drunk. She probably left the party with him, but at least not with her sister. What did she say while she was blackout drunk?
If you're going to make that argument GO READ HER FUCKING STATEMENT WHERE SHE ADDRESSES IT IN BLACK AND WHITE.
If you're too lazy, here's the gist; she had a boyfriend, and she has enough self respect she never would have agreed to be fingered behind a dumpster no matter what. And if she agreed, EVEN IF, he should have stopped when she was passed out, not have to be tackled by swedes on bikes to be stopped. She did not consent, not even a tiny bit in a blackout.
Anonymous
06/05/2016 23:59
Subject: That Brock Allen Turner is a dirtbag
Something very interesting about this case...Why don't we have a mugshot of this guy? Convicted of three felonies, but no mugshot. Lots of pictures of him looking like a "such a nice boy" But hey, there's no privilege here.