Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

've lived in the Soviet block. I am from there. Don't make me laugh with your experience based on visits to that side. So go take a seat, because you are the condescending and misinformed one. I absolutely know more than you in this subject. Nobody said CCCP and Sweden are the same thing. The post was about the poor judgment of a BS supporter

I'm the PP who had the Bernie door-knocker wearing the CCCP t-shirt. I'm also "from there" and have spent a lot of time back in that part of the world since leaving (as a young child). I genuinely can't tell if the other PP doesn't believe that the Bernie activist was wearing the shirt, or if he just doesn't think it should matter.

No, Sweden isn't the USSR, but it's still poor judgment on the part of the Bernie supporter. It also trades on this really misguided romanticism about the USSR, as if the USSR began and ended with Ten Days that Shook the World. Even the recent, and correct, revision of US history books to better account for the staggering losses suffered by the Red Army during the War against Fascism tend to leave out a huge part of the reason why the Soviets were so unprepared for a German invasion - Stalin had purged his generals in what amounted to a fit of pique.

But...I have the same reaction to Millennials in Che t-shirts. They think they want a revolution, but they have no idea the human cost.

All of this socialist paranoia about Bernie Sanders is ridiculous. He is not that radical. He is basically just a New Dealer but our society is so far right at this point, and so used to mistreating its working class, that we can't even see how incredibly reasonable the things he wants to do actually are.

We already have socialism in this country. Without it we would not have playgrounds, parks, libraries, public schools, social security, the WEEKEND, child labor laws, highways, bridges. food stamps. It is all socialism and Sanders' proposals are not farfetched in any way.

Here is Chomsky making this point. I am so sick of hearing the word "socialism" used as an insult. It only shows how successful the right wing propaganda has been in misleading the American people.

A
http://usuncut.com/politics/noam-chomsky-bernie-sanders-new-dealer-best-policies/

We don't care, pp. Especially when your source is US Uncut. But feel free to start a new thread.

Have you really never heard of Noam Chomsky? How can you be ignorant enough to brush the source off as Uncut and simply ignore what Noam Chomsky has to say?

Can we get back to the topic of evolving on Sanders?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

've lived in the Soviet block. I am from there. Don't make me laugh with your experience based on visits to that side. So go take a seat, because you are the condescending and misinformed one. I absolutely know more than you in this subject. Nobody said CCCP and Sweden are the same thing. The post was about the poor judgment of a BS supporter

I'm the PP who had the Bernie door-knocker wearing the CCCP t-shirt. I'm also "from there" and have spent a lot of time back in that part of the world since leaving (as a young child). I genuinely can't tell if the other PP doesn't believe that the Bernie activist was wearing the shirt, or if he just doesn't think it should matter.

No, Sweden isn't the USSR, but it's still poor judgment on the part of the Bernie supporter. It also trades on this really misguided romanticism about the USSR, as if the USSR began and ended with Ten Days that Shook the World. Even the recent, and correct, revision of US history books to better account for the staggering losses suffered by the Red Army during the War against Fascism tend to leave out a huge part of the reason why the Soviets were so unprepared for a German invasion - Stalin had purged his generals in what amounted to a fit of pique.

But...I have the same reaction to Millennials in Che t-shirts. They think they want a revolution, but they have no idea the human cost.

All of this socialist paranoia about Bernie Sanders is ridiculous. He is not that radical. He is basically just a New Dealer but our society is so far right at this point, and so used to mistreating its working class, that we can't even see how incredibly reasonable the things he wants to do actually are.

We already have socialism in this country. Without it we would not have playgrounds, parks, libraries, public schools, social security, the WEEKEND, child labor laws, highways, bridges. food stamps. It is all socialism and Sanders' proposals are not farfetched in any way.

Here is Chomsky making this point. I am so sick of hearing the word "socialism" used as an insult. It only shows how successful the right wing propaganda has been in misleading the American people.

A
http://usuncut.com/politics/noam-chomsky-bernie-sanders-new-dealer-best-policies/

We don't care, pp. Especially when your source is US Uncut. But feel free to start a new thread.

Anonymous wrote:

've lived in the Soviet block. I am from there. Don't make me laugh with your experience based on visits to that side. So go take a seat, because you are the condescending and misinformed one. I absolutely know more than you in this subject. Nobody said CCCP and Sweden are the same thing. The post was about the poor judgment of a BS supporter

I'm the PP who had the Bernie door-knocker wearing the CCCP t-shirt. I'm also "from there" and have spent a lot of time back in that part of the world since leaving (as a young child). I genuinely can't tell if the other PP doesn't believe that the Bernie activist was wearing the shirt, or if he just doesn't think it should matter.

No, Sweden isn't the USSR, but it's still poor judgment on the part of the Bernie supporter. It also trades on this really misguided romanticism about the USSR, as if the USSR began and ended with Ten Days that Shook the World. Even the recent, and correct, revision of US history books to better account for the staggering losses suffered by the Red Army during the War against Fascism tend to leave out a huge part of the reason why the Soviets were so unprepared for a German invasion - Stalin had purged his generals in what amounted to a fit of pique.

But...I have the same reaction to Millennials in Che t-shirts. They think they want a revolution, but they have no idea the human cost.

All of this socialist paranoia about Bernie Sanders is ridiculous. He is not that radical. He is basically just a New Dealer but our society is so far right at this point, and so used to mistreating its working class, that we can't even see how incredibly reasonable the things he wants to do actually are.

We already have socialism in this country. Without it we would not have playgrounds, parks, libraries, public schools, social security, the WEEKEND, child labor laws, highways, bridges. food stamps. It is all socialism and Sanders' proposals are not farfetched in any way.

Here is Chomsky making this point. I am so sick of hearing the word "socialism" used as an insult. It only shows how successful the right wing propaganda has been in misleading the American people.

http://usuncut.com/politics/noam-chomsky-bernie-sanders-new-dealer-best-policies/

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

've lived in the Soviet block. I am from there. Don't make me laugh with your experience based on visits to that side. So go take a seat, because you are the condescending and misinformed one. I absolutely know more than you in this subject. Nobody said CCCP and Sweden are the same thing. The post was about the poor judgment of a BS supporter

I'm the PP who had the Bernie door-knocker wearing the CCCP t-shirt. I'm also "from there" and have spent a lot of time back in that part of the world since leaving (as a young child). I genuinely can't tell if the other PP doesn't believe that the Bernie activist was wearing the shirt, or if he just doesn't think it should matter.

No, Sweden isn't the USSR, but it's still poor judgment on the part of the Bernie supporter. It also trades on this really misguided romanticism about the USSR, as if the USSR began and ended with Ten Days that Shook the World. Even the recent, and correct, revision of US history books to better account for the staggering losses suffered by the Red Army during the War against Fascism tend to leave out a huge part of the reason why the Soviets were so unprepared for a German invasion - Stalin had purged his generals in what amounted to a fit of pique.

But...I have the same reaction to Millennials in Che t-shirts. They think they want a revolution, but they have no idea the human cost.

Nobody believes you. Just stop already.

Wait. You don't think a Sanders door-knocker showed up in a CCCP t-shirt? Why on earth would you find that hard to believe? Those t-shirts are ubiquitous. https://www.google.com/search?q=cccp+t+shirt&biw=1440&bih=775&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjxzvbw2NTMAhWHCD4KHTVFD3sQ_AUI2QIoAQ

Yeah, I like Sanders, his supporters, not so much.

Anonymous wrote:

've lived in the Soviet block. I am from there. Don't make me laugh with your experience based on visits to that side. So go take a seat, because you are the condescending and misinformed one. I absolutely know more than you in this subject. Nobody said CCCP and Sweden are the same thing. The post was about the poor judgment of a BS supporter

I'm the PP who had the Bernie door-knocker wearing the CCCP t-shirt. I'm also "from there" and have spent a lot of time back in that part of the world since leaving (as a young child). I genuinely can't tell if the other PP doesn't believe that the Bernie activist was wearing the shirt, or if he just doesn't think it should matter.

No, Sweden isn't the USSR, but it's still poor judgment on the part of the Bernie supporter. It also trades on this really misguided romanticism about the USSR, as if the USSR began and ended with Ten Days that Shook the World. Even the recent, and correct, revision of US history books to better account for the staggering losses suffered by the Red Army during the War against Fascism tend to leave out a huge part of the reason why the Soviets were so unprepared for a German invasion - Stalin had purged his generals in what amounted to a fit of pique.

But...I have the same reaction to Millennials in Che t-shirts. They think they want a revolution, but they have no idea the human cost.

Nobody believes you. Just stop already.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A Sanders supporter showed up at my door a few weeks ago wearing a CCCP t-shirt. It was literally all I could do to politely inform him that we're a Clinton household, but HOLY CRAP Millennials! When you are door-knocking for a self-described socialist, maybe try not to evoke mental images of famine, gulag, and bread lines.

Cool story, bro. Why not just go all out and say a Sanders supporter came to your door wearing devil's horns and carrying a pitchfork? It would be about as credible. Sorry but Sweden != USSR. And when you say stuff like "self described socialist" you out yourself as someone who no doubt voted for Ronald Reagan back in the day.

This whole thread is just pure crap posts from wanna-be bullshit artists. Don't consider quitting your career to pursue professional-grade bullshit artistry.

Not pp. As someone who knows first hand what the dear old CCCP was capable of, I can tell you to go read some history books. As for the rest of your post, how sad that you are so intolerant of others' opinion. Much like the dear old CCCP.

I am the PP who said "Cool story bro" and as it happens I lived in Europe for 10 years during the height of the Cold War, I know about the Fulda Gap as the first line of defense vs. the Soviet invasion, I passed through Checkpoint Charlie, I saw the Berlin wall when it was still standing, I saw smoke-spewing underpowered beat-up Trabis on drab gray East German streets, I traveled to several other Soviet bloc areas as well and saw it first hand, as opposed to merely "reading about it in a history book", and so you can go fuck yourself with your arrogance and condescending attitude and assumptions that you know more than anyone else in the room. And again, socialism is not Stalinism, Sweden is not the CCCP so I suggest you should be the one to go back and do some more research.

've lived in the Soviet block. I am from there. Don't make me laugh with your experience based on visits to that side. So go take a seat, because you are the condescending and misinformed one. I absolutely know more than you in this subject. Nobody said CCCP and Sweden are the same thing. The post was about the poor judgment of a BS supporter

Not the PP you are responding to, but sorry to inform you that Bernie isn't promoting anything even remotely related to the Soviet Union, which makes whatever butthurt and self-righteousness you are trying to project here completely irrelevant. The only one displaying poor judgement here is the pp who stupidly tried claiming a Sanders supporter came to their door promoting the Soviet Union. No Sanders supporter on the planet would believe that, or for that matter find it even in the remotest way credible, the only thing the PP is counting on is foolishness and gullibility of non-Sanders supporters in order to stoke some kind of outrage with that bullshit trolling CCCP post.

That's all there is to say on the matter.

've lived in the Soviet block. I am from there. Don't make me laugh with your experience based on visits to that side. So go take a seat, because you are the condescending and misinformed one. I absolutely know more than you in this subject. Nobody said CCCP and Sweden are the same thing. The post was about the poor judgment of a BS supporter

I'm the PP who had the Bernie door-knocker wearing the CCCP t-shirt. I'm also "from there" and have spent a lot of time back in that part of the world since leaving (as a young child). I genuinely can't tell if the other PP doesn't believe that the Bernie activist was wearing the shirt, or if he just doesn't think it should matter.

No, Sweden isn't the USSR, but it's still poor judgment on the part of the Bernie supporter. It also trades on this really misguided romanticism about the USSR, as if the USSR began and ended with Ten Days that Shook the World. Even the recent, and correct, revision of US history books to better account for the staggering losses suffered by the Red Army during the War against Fascism tend to leave out a huge part of the reason why the Soviets were so unprepared for a German invasion - Stalin had purged his generals in what amounted to a fit of pique.

But...I have the same reaction to Millennials in Che t-shirts. They think they want a revolution, but they have no idea the human cost.

I changed my view on Sanders when I dug in and realized that he really didn't have much of a plan on how to accomplish his ideas in Congress, etc. I actually voted for him (in the VA primary), but am supporting Clinton now. I did not like the negative tone his surrogates took toward minorities as well. I'm a black woman and I found the whole "minorities don't know what's good for them" to be troubling. I also had a strong concern that Sanders didn't really, really want to embrace racial equality and didn't see fixing racial inequality as a part of his mission to fix economic inequality.

Now, I find the whole let's pitch to the superdelegates approach to be awful because I looked at the math and even if the DNC did that (gave sanders supers in proportion to his wins) he would STILL be losing to Clinton. I also think it's strange because he attacked them when they weren't helpful but wants them now. It's opportunistic and honestly I just don't trust him, which is funny because despite constantly being told how untrustworthy Clinton is, I am starting to warm up to the idea that she's more trustworthy than people give her credit for.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A Sanders supporter showed up at my door a few weeks ago wearing a CCCP t-shirt. It was literally all I could do to politely inform him that we're a Clinton household, but HOLY CRAP Millennials! When you are door-knocking for a self-described socialist, maybe try not to evoke mental images of famine, gulag, and bread lines.

Cool story, bro. Why not just go all out and say a Sanders supporter came to your door wearing devil's horns and carrying a pitchfork? It would be about as credible. Sorry but Sweden != USSR. And when you say stuff like "self described socialist" you out yourself as someone who no doubt voted for Ronald Reagan back in the day.

This whole thread is just pure crap posts from wanna-be bullshit artists. Don't consider quitting your career to pursue professional-grade bullshit artistry.

Not pp. As someone who knows first hand what the dear old CCCP was capable of, I can tell you to go read some history books. As for the rest of your post, how sad that you are so intolerant of others' opinion. Much like the dear old CCCP.

I am the PP who said "Cool story bro" and as it happens I lived in Europe for 10 years during the height of the Cold War, I know about the Fulda Gap as the first line of defense vs. the Soviet invasion, I passed through Checkpoint Charlie, I saw the Berlin wall when it was still standing, I saw smoke-spewing underpowered beat-up Trabis on drab gray East German streets, I traveled to several other Soviet bloc areas as well and saw it first hand, as opposed to merely "reading about it in a history book", and so you can go fuck yourself with your arrogance and condescending attitude and assumptions that you know more than anyone else in the room. And again, socialism is not Stalinism, Sweden is not the CCCP so I suggest you should be the one to go back and do some more research.

've lived in the Soviet block. I am from there. Don't make me laugh with your experience based on visits to that side. So go take a seat, because you are the condescending and misinformed one. I absolutely know more than you in this subject. Nobody said CCCP and Sweden are the same thing. The post was about the poor judgment of a BS supporter

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A Sanders supporter showed up at my door a few weeks ago wearing a CCCP t-shirt. It was literally all I could do to politely inform him that we're a Clinton household, but HOLY CRAP Millennials! When you are door-knocking for a self-described socialist, maybe try not to evoke mental images of famine, gulag, and bread lines.

Cool story, bro. Why not just go all out and say a Sanders supporter came to your door wearing devil's horns and carrying a pitchfork? It would be about as credible. Sorry but Sweden != USSR. And when you say stuff like "self described socialist" you out yourself as someone who no doubt voted for Ronald Reagan back in the day.

This whole thread is just pure crap posts from wanna-be bullshit artists. Don't consider quitting your career to pursue professional-grade bullshit artistry.

Not pp. As someone who knows first hand what the dear old CCCP was capable of, I can tell you to go read some history books. As for the rest of your post, how sad that you are so intolerant of others' opinion. Much like the dear old CCCP.

I am the PP who said "Cool story bro" and as it happens I lived in Europe for 10 years during the height of the Cold War, I know about the Fulda Gap as the first line of defense vs. the Soviet invasion, I passed through Checkpoint Charlie, I saw the Berlin wall when it was still standing, I saw smoke-spewing underpowered beat-up Trabis on drab gray East German streets, I traveled to several other Soviet bloc areas as well and saw it first hand, as opposed to merely "reading about it in a history book", and so you can go fuck yourself with your arrogance and condescending attitude and assumptions that you know more than anyone else in the room. And again, socialism is not Stalinism, Sweden is not the CCCP so I suggest you should be the one to go back and do some more research.

Anonymous wrote:I stopped my Sanders support when he called HRC "secretary" Clinton. You could just tell he loved using that term.

Also, when the BernieBros yelled "women owe men sex" at every Sanders rally? That was not cool.

Please keep your day job. None of your posts like this are funny.

I stopped my Sanders support when he called HRC "secretary" Clinton. You could just tell he loved using that term.

Also, when the BernieBros yelled "women owe men sex" at every Sanders rally? That was not cool.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A Sanders supporter showed up at my door a few weeks ago wearing a CCCP t-shirt. It was literally all I could do to politely inform him that we're a Clinton household, but HOLY CRAP Millennials! When you are door-knocking for a self-described socialist, maybe try not to evoke mental images of famine, gulag, and bread lines.

Cool story, bro. Why not just go all out and say a Sanders supporter came to your door wearing devil's horns and carrying a pitchfork? It would be about as credible. Sorry but Sweden != USSR. And when you say stuff like "self described socialist" you out yourself as someone who no doubt voted for Ronald Reagan back in the day.

This whole thread is just pure crap posts from wanna-be bullshit artists. Don't consider quitting your career to pursue professional-grade bullshit artistry.

Not pp. As someone who knows first hand what the dear old CCCP was capable of, I can tell you to go read some history books. As for the rest of your post, how sad that you are so intolerant of others' opinion. Much like the dear old CCCP.