Anonymous
Post 04/12/2016 10:47     Subject: Hearst waitlist for K
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think parents at Hearst are concerned about overcrowding and that is very understandable.


+1


+2 I don't think that being worried about overcrowding and being welcoming of OOB families are inconsistent. Obviously not every OOB family that wants to come can do so. To the extent that they can, we'd love to have them. Indeed, I know a lot of us are stressing about our friends who are on the waiting list now as OOB with siblings for PK4. But I think we (both IB and OOB families currently at school) don't want large class sizes if it can be reasonably avoided. Who would?
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2016 09:14     Subject: Hearst waitlist for K
Anonymous wrote:I think parents at Hearst are concerned about overcrowding and that is very understandable.


+1
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2016 08:07     Subject: Hearst waitlist for K
Anonymous wrote:Collapse? A wee dramatic I think.
already close to 50% are in charters.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2016 07:56     Subject: Hearst waitlist for K
I think parents at Hearst are concerned about overcrowding and that is very understandable.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2016 07:29     Subject: Hearst waitlist for K
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, of course you would be welcomed with open arms, that poster may not even be from Hearst. I think that no one wants their child in crowded classrooms. And the other thing to keep in mind is that OOB with sibling are still on the wait list. I would not read so much into an anonymous forum. If you are interested, come visit the school or reach out to the PTA.


+1 I am an IB parent and truly hope that there will still will be open spots for OOB kids in the future. Having kids from all over the District is one of the things we like best about the school and I know that most parents agree.


If you feel so strongly about it then please give up your IB slot and lottery into one of the empty EOTP elementary schools. You are an enabler who is allowing DCPS to perpetuate an unsustainable attempt to improve test scores by packing WOTP schools with EOTP kids, rather than doing the actual hard work of improving EOTP schools. If overcrowding continues at Deal and Wilson then the best schools in DCPS will begin to faill and DCPS will eventually collapse with 50%+ of the kids moving to charter schools. And you will have played a small part in the collapse.


I guess I don't quite follow. Does moving an EOTP kid to Hearst improve that child's test scores? Most of the OOB kids I know at Hearst come from college educated homes. I don't think the school is altering their test scores.

Conversely, can DCPS improve the schools EOTP? When people say improve the schools, they mean raise test scores. Test scores, though, are determined largely by family income and mothers' educational attainment. We are at an EOTP school. Our teachers and staff are excellent. Our test scores, though, reflect our large ESL population. The test scores at Ross and Brent didn't improve because DCPS got betterjust in those two school s, and YU Ying doesn't have high test scores because their model is just soooo good. Those schools are all full of wealthy kids, so they test well.


If all those OOB kids come from great homes and test well then why don't they just stay at their inbound schools? Why come to the overcrowded WOTP schools which require continued infusion of tax dollars to expand? Why contribute to traffic and air pollution each day? Why spend tax dollars to subsidize fares on an overcrowded metro system? Wouldn't the time spent shuttling these kids all over town be better spent in the library tutoring these kids?
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2016 06:51     Subject: Hearst waitlist for K
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, of course you would be welcomed with open arms, that poster may not even be from Hearst. I think that no one wants their child in crowded classrooms. And the other thing to keep in mind is that OOB with sibling are still on the wait list. I would not read so much into an anonymous forum. If you are interested, come visit the school or reach out to the PTA.


+1 I am an IB parent and truly hope that there will still will be open spots for OOB kids in the future. Having kids from all over the District is one of the things we like best about the school and I know that most parents agree.


If you feel so strongly about it then please give up your IB slot and lottery into one of the empty EOTP elementary schools. You are an enabler who is allowing DCPS to perpetuate an unsustainable attempt to improve test scores by packing WOTP schools with EOTP kids, rather than doing the actual hard work of improving EOTP schools. If overcrowding continues at Deal and Wilson then the best schools in DCPS will begin to faill and DCPS will eventually collapse with 50%+ of the kids moving to charter schools. And you will have played a small part in the collapse.


I guess I don't quite follow. Does moving an EOTP kid to Hearst improve that child's test scores? Most of the OOB kids I know at Hearst come from college educated homes. I don't think the school is altering their test scores.

Conversely, can DCPS improve the schools EOTP? When people say improve the schools, they mean raise test scores. Test scores, though, are determined largely by family income and mothers' educational attainment. We are at an EOTP school. Our teachers and staff are excellent. Our test scores, though, reflect our large ESL population. The test scores at Ross and Brent didn't improve because DCPS got betterjust in those two school s, and YU Ying doesn't have high test scores because their model is just soooo good. Those schools are all full of wealthy kids, so they test well.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2016 06:48     Subject: Hearst waitlist for K
Collapse? A wee dramatic I think.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2016 06:35     Subject: Hearst waitlist for K
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, of course you would be welcomed with open arms, that poster may not even be from Hearst. I think that no one wants their child in crowded classrooms. And the other thing to keep in mind is that OOB with sibling are still on the wait list. I would not read so much into an anonymous forum. If you are interested, come visit the school or reach out to the PTA.


+1 I am an IB parent and truly hope that there will still will be open spots for OOB kids in the future. Having kids from all over the District is one of the things we like best about the school and I know that most parents agree.


If you feel so strongly about it then please give up your IB slot and lottery into one of the empty EOTP elementary schools. You are an enabler who is allowing DCPS to perpetuate an unsustainable attempt to improve test scores by packing WOTP schools with EOTP kids, rather than doing the actual hard work of improving EOTP schools. If overcrowding continues at Deal and Wilson then the best schools in DCPS will begin to faill and DCPS will eventually collapse with 50%+ of the kids moving to charter schools. And you will have played a small part in the collapse.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2016 23:17     Subject: Re:Hearst waitlist for K
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They didn't add OOB above 20. They added to get to 20 in each class. Then, over the summer, 8 IB kids registered to get to 24 in each. Both are now 25.


Why not just wait until August to add OOB students, if needed?


One principal on the way ew principal


Darn iPhone and sleep-time typing. It was a new principal and first lottery as principal. Also probably no one saw how popular the school would be this fast.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2016 23:15     Subject: Re:Hearst waitlist for K
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They didn't add OOB above 20. They added to get to 20 in each class. Then, over the summer, 8 IB kids registered to get to 24 in each. Both are now 25.


Why not just wait until August to add OOB students, if needed?


One principal on the way ew principal
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2016 22:31     Subject: Hearst waitlist for K
Anonymous wrote:OP, of course you would be welcomed with open arms, that poster may not even be from Hearst. I think that no one wants their child in crowded classrooms. And the other thing to keep in mind is that OOB with sibling are still on the wait list. I would not read so much into an anonymous forum. If you are interested, come visit the school or reach out to the PTA.


+1 I am an IB parent and truly hope that there will still will be open spots for OOB kids in the future. Having kids from all over the District is one of the things we like best about the school and I know that most parents agree.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2016 22:02     Subject: Hearst waitlist for K
Exactly what they did. No OOB slots were made available in the lottery, from what people understood at least.

But they should not add any OOB until September since people may move IB, especially if 10 kids did so last year, it may even be more this year.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2016 21:57     Subject: Re:Hearst waitlist for K
Anonymous wrote:They didn't add OOB above 20. They added to get to 20 in each class. Then, over the summer, 8 IB kids registered to get to 24 in each. Both are now 25.


Why not just wait until August to add OOB students, if needed?
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2016 21:46     Subject: Re:Hearst waitlist for K
They didn't add OOB above 20. They added to get to 20 in each class. Then, over the summer, 8 IB kids registered to get to 24 in each. Both are now 25.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2016 21:42     Subject: Hearst waitlist for K
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Apparently Hearst is changing quickly. You would not have seen these sorts of comments re OOB students 2-3 years ago.


OK. But 3 years ago there was a hard cap of 20 for both K classes. So there is that.
there still should be, at least they should not add any OOB above 20. It sounds like the principal made this promise, but the parents will have to ask more questions at the next PTA meeting.