Anonymous
Post 02/23/2016 17:25     Subject: Re:North Carolina and Transgender Bathrooms
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The solution is to have a family or unisex single-stall bathroom for whoever wants to use it. Parents with opposite sex kids, transgender folks, or anyone who needs a little extra privacy. Many, many public spaces already have these bathrooms.

(I actually am in favor of letting transgender people use whatever bathroom they want to, but this might be a good intermediary step.) Laughing my ass off at the visual of perverts putting on dresses to get into the ladies' room. Has that ever happened, anywhere that bathroom laws have been implemented?


Is this a serious question?

Yes, yes it has happened.


Link? Looking for pervert male + dress + bathroom law, thanks
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2016 17:24     Subject: Re:North Carolina and Transgender Bathrooms
Anonymous wrote:The solution is to have a family or unisex single-stall bathroom for whoever wants to use it. Parents with opposite sex kids, transgender folks, or anyone who needs a little extra privacy. Many, many public spaces already have these bathrooms.

(I actually am in favor of letting transgender people use whatever bathroom they want to, but this might be a good intermediary step.) Laughing my ass off at the visual of perverts putting on dresses to get into the ladies' room. Has that ever happened, anywhere that bathroom laws have been implemented?


Is this a serious question?

Yes, yes it has happened.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2016 17:23     Subject: North Carolina and Transgender Bathrooms
Anonymous wrote: The bathroom has long been a kind of safe house for women- we go off there to get away from men on a date or in a nightclub, to talk to our friends- it's kind of a refuge of sorts. And now we have to worry about a man in a dress being parked there? HELL FUCKING NO.


Not just a man in a dress.

The real threat is the man who "feels" like a woman today abusing a stupid policy and no one willing to challenge him because well it's the law.

This is stupidity masked in kindness at its height.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2016 17:22     Subject: Re:North Carolina and Transgender Bathrooms
The solution is to have a family or unisex single-stall bathroom for whoever wants to use it. Parents with opposite sex kids, transgender folks, or anyone who needs a little extra privacy. Many, many public spaces already have these bathrooms.

(I actually am in favor of letting transgender people use whatever bathroom they want to, but this might be a good intermediary step.) Laughing my ass off at the visual of perverts putting on dresses to get into the ladies' room. Has that ever happened, anywhere that bathroom laws have been implemented?
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2016 17:17     Subject: Re:North Carolina and Transgender Bathrooms
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've yet to see a reply about exposed dongs in the lady's locker room. Is everyone OK with this, even when children are present?


I definitely LOL'd at this.


And I'm still waiting for a serious reply.

My boys saw woman's breast/pubic hair in the woman's locker room when the were to small to be in a locker room without a parent. You know, every man has a penis its natural, don't be scared of it. Do you have some problem with the wrod penis too?


Good for you. My school age daughter knows what a penis looks like too (from books). What I want to know is how we keep sexual predators/perverts out of the locker rooms/bathrooms. I don't see a good solution for this.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2016 17:08     Subject: Re:North Carolina and Transgender Bathrooms
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've yet to see a reply about exposed dongs in the lady's locker room. Is everyone OK with this, even when children are present?


I definitely LOL'd at this.


And I'm still waiting for a serious reply.

My boys saw woman's breast/pubic hair in the woman's locker room when the were to small to be in a locker room without a parent. You know, every man has a penis its natural, don't be scared of it. Do you have some problem with the wrod penis too?
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2016 17:04     Subject: North Carolina and Transgender Bathrooms
Anonymous wrote:It is really zero big deal.

I have a very, very close and dear friend whose young teen child (born girl, identifies as male/non)--an extremely lovely, smart, and wonderful kid--who, IMO, should pee wherever the heck they feel is right. Luckily they're growing up in a very accepting household and community. My friend is most nervous about the future, venturing in to college and so on. We know the statistics on violence and suicide are quite high for this group.

My daughter met a cashier at Staples the other day who was probably born male, I referred to her as "he," and she corrected me: "She." I said, "Yes, pardon me, 'she'." My daughter asked, "Wait, are you a girl?" And the person behind the register said, "Yes, very much that's I feel deep down inside. How about you?" My daughter said, "I feel like I'm a girl." The cashier said, "Cool" and they fist bumped. And so it goes... My kid's eight, so if she can roll with it...

If history is any guide, we will become less and less uptight and hateful as time goes on. Stand up for these folks. They could use more support and acceptance.


I find this so very, very sad.

Does anyone stop to consider that maybe the little girl that wants to dress in "boy clothes" (as in pants, t-shirts, etc), wants to play with trucks, and doesn't like "girl things", might be... gasp!... a lesbian? Or even a straight woman that is gender non-conforming?

Instead, we force them into this one gender role.

It's very 1950s to me. Girls are expected to play with barbies, boys are expected to play with trucks. If they don't, that's not okay, and they must be born the wrong gender.

And then later, when those same kids enter puberty, no doubt they will be given drugs and hormones and possibly go through gender reassignment surgery so that they get the "right" gender. So we're going to drug up these little girls and turn their genitalia into a penis because.... they don't really like barbies and princesses and the color pink?

WHAT IN THE FRESH HELL HAS HAPPENED TO THIS WORLD. I feel so bad for these children.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2016 16:57     Subject: North Carolina and Transgender Bathrooms
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is really zero big deal.

I have a very, very close and dear friend whose young teen child (born girl, identifies as male/non)--an extremely lovely, smart, and wonderful kid--who, IMO, should pee wherever the heck they feel is right. Luckily they're growing up in a very accepting household and community. My friend is most nervous about the future, venturing in to college and so on. We know the statistics on violence and suicide are quite high for this group.

My daughter met a cashier at Staples the other day who was probably born male, I referred to her as "he," and she corrected me: "She." I said, "Yes, pardon me, 'she'." My daughter asked, "Wait, are you a girl?" And the person behind the register said, "Yes, very much that's I feel deep down inside. How about you?" My daughter said, "I feel like I'm a girl." The cashier said, "Cool" and they fist bumped. And so it goes... My kid's eight, so if she can roll with it...

If history is any guide, we will become less and less uptight and hateful as time goes on. Stand up for these folks. They could use more support and acceptance.


And today, I feel like a duck. Does that make me a duck?


I assure you, ducks would not care.


No. But I guarantee that when I'm standing in line behind you at the bank or sitting next to you and your kids at a restaurant, dressed in my feathers and quacking through my meal, you will think I either a) lost a bet or b) accepted a wild dare or c) am downright crazy. Just because I identify as a duck does not make me one
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2016 16:55     Subject: North Carolina and Transgender Bathrooms
The bathroom has long been a kind of safe house for women- we go off there to get away from men on a date or in a nightclub, to talk to our friends- it's kind of a refuge of sorts. And now we have to worry about a man in a dress being parked there? HELL FUCKING NO.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2016 16:54     Subject: North Carolina and Transgender Bathrooms
HELLL NO.

There is a higher incidence of sexual violence among the transgender community as is.

Females need female only spaces.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2016 16:44     Subject: Re:North Carolina and Transgender Bathrooms
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've yet to see a reply about exposed dongs in the lady's locker room. Is everyone OK with this, even when children are present?


I definitely LOL'd at this.


And I'm still waiting for a serious reply.


Sorry, I LOL'd at "exposed dongs".

No, I am most certainly not OK with this.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2016 16:41     Subject: Re:North Carolina and Transgender Bathrooms
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've yet to see a reply about exposed dongs in the lady's locker room. Is everyone OK with this, even when children are present?


I definitely LOL'd at this.


And I'm still waiting for a serious reply.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2016 16:37     Subject: Re:North Carolina and Transgender Bathrooms
Anonymous wrote:I've yet to see a reply about exposed dongs in the lady's locker room. Is everyone OK with this, even when children are present?


I definitely LOL'd at this.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2016 16:22     Subject: Re:North Carolina and Transgender Bathrooms
I don't know what kind of sheltered lives some of you have lived. From my high school experience, I can see some a-hole guy saying "I feel like a girl today" and bursting into the girl's restroom. What's to stop him, he's "confused"?This thing is not as simple as it may seem to the naive.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2016 16:18     Subject: North Carolina and Transgender Bathrooms
We will become less uptight and hateful over time.

If you are uptight, check here: __

If you are hateful, check here: __

If you are both, check here: __

I would say I was in the first category until I just chilled way the heck out--got some exposure to a variety of people and saw, hey, most people are good, kind, doing their best. There will be fewer and fewer uptights and haters as the years go on...