Anonymous
01/16/2016 14:18
Subject: Re:Backless Booster
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:By 8, my kids were completely out of all boosters and just used regular seatbelt.
Your child must have been huge then. In order to be out of a booster a child needs to be able to sit with their rear all the way in the bite of the seat, knees bent over the edge and feet flat on the floor. Plus the seatbelt has to be high on the thighs, not on the abdomen. FWIW, my large 11 year old is out of a booster in DH's Elantra. He is still in a booster in my Odyssey because he doesn't fit without one. My HUGE (and by huge I mean very very tall) 8 year old is still in a booster in both cars--she doesn't fit even a little bit without one.
See, what I don't get is I am 5'0 and ~110 pounds. When I started driving I was well under 100 pounds. Would I have had to drive in a booster seat?!?! Seriously worried about my DD ending up being in a booster until she's in college!!
Well you are not educated in car seat safety. Kids need to be in a booster until 57" and having the seatbelt fit well on their shoulder and not up by their neck. Also, the reason kids should not be in the front seat until age 13 or 14 is because their bone structure is not as thick and formed as an adult (especially during puberty when they are growing so fast) and they prone to more injuries and fatalities than an adult in the passenger seat. And we all know the passenger seat is the seat of death but yet stupid parents let their 8-10yr olds up there when they whine or complain.
And car seat safety changes yearly and some people are all into it when they have babies and then they don't keep up with it. It is now mandatory in many states to rear-face until minimum 2yrs old. Mandatory for many to be in a booster until minimum 8yrs old. Each state has a law that are bare bones minimum and each year the AAP does more studying and comes up with their recommendations. It takes years for the states to get approval on what pediatricians and car seat company and technicians recommend. By the time a new one is approved there are better seats and recommendations the AAP will find. This is actually a good thing.
You can stop talking now.
Yes because the PP educating people on car seat safety is such a horrible thing to do. The other thousands of posts on DCUM are much more important to read
Anonymous
01/16/2016 11:39
Subject: Backless Booster
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some of you parents (and your kids) need to grow a set of balls and parent your kids.
Neighborhood kids made fun of him as a reason to change seats? Wait until he is a teen and everyone makes fun of him for not smoking, drinking, not having sex, being a nerd doing homework etc...
And my kid whines or complains? LOL - great reason.
Yeah, I know. I suck. But sometimes you pick your battles. I've read a bunch of stuff that says the harness is safer, but you're talking .5% safer versus 20% safer. It's not like I'm throwing my kid in the back of a pickup truck. He meets the height/weight requirements of a backless booster. So I caved and I'll also encourage him to be a method addict.
Why do you keep talking about harnesses? High back boosters don't have harnesses. I think you misread OP's post. Does your booster have a back on it? If so it is not a backless booster.
NP. Our Radian seat is either 5pt harness or HBB.
Exactly. But that's different than a backless booster, which is what the OP was asking about. PPs saying that their 4 year old are in backless boosters are just simply wrong. They are using the wrong words and trying to describe a high back booster. And we know that because they talk about missing the harnesses. If their kid really were in a backless booster, they would be talking about using the back or not. You're using a seatbelt either way in a booster mode - no harnesses. The question OP was asking was whether to use the back part of the booster or not. People are getting the question all jumbled.
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The PP above was talking about the safety of being harnessed vs. backless booster.
We switched from 5pt harness to backless booster. Skipped HBBs because they were bulky and didn't fit well in our car.
Anonymous
01/16/2016 11:24
Subject: Backless Booster
It would be great too if you posted if you live in the suburbs and spend an hour a day in the car and use the highway. Or drive in the city maybe 1 mile a day tops.
Anonymous
01/16/2016 11:19
Subject: Backless Booster
Anonymous wrote:I have an 11 yo. None of her friends have used boosters for years. An 11 yo in a booster?!?!?!
I have seen 4 and 5 yos in backless boosters in our preschool car line. It's not uncommon.
I know what a backless booster is. My DD got one on her fourth birthday. It is not comfortable when she falls asleep but she would not stay in her 5 harness seat. Her older sister doesn't use one as well. I read all the instructions and she was good to go on the age and weight limits. I don't understand why that would put me in the "troll" category.
Anonymous
01/16/2016 10:11
Subject: Backless Booster
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some of you parents (and your kids) need to grow a set of balls and parent your kids.
Neighborhood kids made fun of him as a reason to change seats? Wait until he is a teen and everyone makes fun of him for not smoking, drinking, not having sex, being a nerd doing homework etc...
And my kid whines or complains? LOL - great reason.
Yeah, I know. I suck. But sometimes you pick your battles. I've read a bunch of stuff that says the harness is safer, but you're talking .5% safer versus 20% safer. It's not like I'm throwing my kid in the back of a pickup truck. He meets the height/weight requirements of a backless booster. So I caved and I'll also encourage him to be a method addict.
Why do you keep talking about harnesses? High back boosters don't have harnesses. I think you misread OP's post. Does your booster have a back on it? If so it is not a backless booster.
NP. Our Radian seat is either 5pt harness or HBB.
Exactly. But that's different than a backless booster, which is what the OP was asking about. PPs saying that their 4 year old are in backless boosters are just simply wrong. They are using the wrong words and trying to describe a high back booster. And we know that because they talk about missing the harnesses. If their kid really were in a backless booster, they would be talking about using the back or not. You're using a seatbelt either way in a booster mode - no harnesses. The question OP was asking was whether to use the back part of the booster or not. People are getting the question all jumbled.
Anonymous
01/16/2016 08:25
Subject: Backless Booster
I have an 11 yo. None of her friends have used boosters for years. An 11 yo in a booster?!?!?!
I have seen 4 and 5 yos in backless boosters in our preschool car line. It's not uncommon.
I have seen 4 and 5 yos in backless boosters in our preschool car line. It's not uncommon.
Anonymous
01/16/2016 08:23
Subject: Backless Booster
5.5 backless for occasional carpooling (every few months) only. Still in a harnessed seat with no complaints. 47" 46 lbs
Anonymous
01/16/2016 08:14
Subject: Backless Booster
We switched at 5 to backless booster. Now my younger child is asking to switch at age 5 but isn't 40lbs yet.
Someone mentioned rear facing until age 2 is mandatory now. I switched both to FF at 12 months. Holy crap that would have been too much vomit to clean up to go another year RF. I know I was in the minority to switch even then but that was the right decision for us. They barfed every time we drove somewhere RF.
Someone mentioned rear facing until age 2 is mandatory now. I switched both to FF at 12 months. Holy crap that would have been too much vomit to clean up to go another year RF. I know I was in the minority to switch even then but that was the right decision for us. They barfed every time we drove somewhere RF.
Anonymous
01/16/2016 07:35
Subject: Backless Booster
Anonymous wrote:At what age, weight, and height, did you transition to a backless booster?
Around five years old. I didn't have any booster at that age when I was a kid.
Anonymous
01/16/2016 07:26
Subject: Backless Booster
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some of you parents (and your kids) need to grow a set of balls and parent your kids.
Neighborhood kids made fun of him as a reason to change seats? Wait until he is a teen and everyone makes fun of him for not smoking, drinking, not having sex, being a nerd doing homework etc...
And my kid whines or complains? LOL - great reason.
Yeah, I know. I suck. But sometimes you pick your battles. I've read a bunch of stuff that says the harness is safer, but you're talking .5% safer versus 20% safer. It's not like I'm throwing my kid in the back of a pickup truck. He meets the height/weight requirements of a backless booster. So I caved and I'll also encourage him to be a method addict.
Why do you keep talking about harnesses? High back boosters don't have harnesses. I think you misread OP's post. Does your booster have a back on it? If so it is not a backless booster.
NP. Our Radian seat is either 5pt harness or HBB.
Anonymous
01/16/2016 07:10
Subject: Backless Booster
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some of you parents (and your kids) need to grow a set of balls and parent your kids.
Neighborhood kids made fun of him as a reason to change seats? Wait until he is a teen and everyone makes fun of him for not smoking, drinking, not having sex, being a nerd doing homework etc...
And my kid whines or complains? LOL - great reason.
Yeah, I know. I suck. But sometimes you pick your battles. I've read a bunch of stuff that says the harness is safer, but you're talking .5% safer versus 20% safer. It's not like I'm throwing my kid in the back of a pickup truck. He meets the height/weight requirements of a backless booster. So I caved and I'll also encourage him to be a method addict.
Why do you keep talking about harnesses? High back boosters don't have harnesses. I think you misread OP's post. Does your booster have a back on it? If so it is not a backless booster.
Anonymous
01/16/2016 07:07
Subject: Backless Booster
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:4 for us. My DD really fought for it.
Okay troll
Not a troll. DD has an older sister which is 9 and she would not want a different seat any longer and hated the 5 point harness.
My 9 year old sits without booster.
Not sure why I should be a troll. The booster seat says it's good from 4-10 years.
You understand that OP is talking about a BACKLESS booster? It is not for 4 yos.
Anonymous
01/15/2016 22:38
Subject: Re:Backless Booster
I don't know where some if you get your info......There is no requirement that you feet be flat on the floor to be safe in a seat belt. In dc, md and vs you have to be in some kind of seat until 8th birthday , regardless of height weight. Whoever is posting height if 5"7 is wrong.
Anonymous
01/15/2016 22:29
Subject: Backless Booster
Anonymous wrote:Also 4/40lbs -- which is what it says on the tin, so not sure why folks are calling troll??
Because only the laziest person would put their 4 year old in a backless booster. Just because the box says it's ok does not mean it's safe. I get that people use their judgement, but I have to say that there a many people whose judgement is WAY OFF.
Anonymous
01/15/2016 22:04
Subject: Backless Booster
Also 4/40lbs -- which is what it says on the tin, so not sure why folks are calling troll??