Anonymous
Post 01/02/2016 06:51     Subject: Re:Obama to take Executive Action regarding Gun Control

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the president when, as a candidate for the office of presidency, criticized GWB for executive actions?
Isn’t this the president who campaigned on a promise to not circumvent Congress and govern by executive privilege?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsRfrcit05M


Yes to both. However, if Congress won't work with you in general, especially on something that the majority of Americans of both parties say they want (e.g., background checks) then you use the tools you have to achieve what you can.

I'm sorry, were you trying to create a "Read my lips, no new taxes!" moment?

Some of us take a slightly more realistic view of our politics.



So, in other words, if a president does not get what he wants, he issues executive actions?
That’s not the way our government is designed.
Obama has not worked with Congress. His MO has been - outline what he wants and if he doesn’t get it, he finds a way around the law. Even if it’s unconstitutional.
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2016 23:59     Subject: Re:Obama to take Executive Action regarding Gun Control

The Dens are the ones in sad shape. Embracing idiots like Sanders and Warren. Like I said the GOP is supposed to be a Right-wing Party( an alternative to Left-wing Dems) The GOP should not be a mushy moderate party. You can believe what you want, but be prepared for a Cruz nomination.
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2016 23:51     Subject: Re:Obama to take Executive Action regarding Gun Control

Anonymous wrote:Listen fool. Trump, Cruz, Carson, Paul, Santorum, and Huckabee supporters comprise 70% of the GOP. The establishment supports moderates like Kasich, Bush, and Rubio. The establishment has FAILED! It's our turn now. Cruz will be the nominee.


If that's true, wow. I left the party years ago, but it still makes me sad to see the GOP in such sad shape.
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2016 23:50     Subject: Re:Obama to take Executive Action regarding Gun Control

Listen fool. Trump, Cruz, Carson, Paul, Santorum, and Huckabee supporters comprise 70% of the GOP. The establishment supports moderates like Kasich, Bush, and Rubio. The establishment has FAILED! It's our turn now. Cruz will be the nominee.
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2016 23:42     Subject: Obama to take Executive Action regarding Gun Control

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Congress is definitely dysfunctional. They can't even agree on things they used to agree on. It's insane. I've seen several instances where the GOP comes up with a proposal, the Dems agree to support it and then the GOP turns around and opposes their own proposal for no reason other than to spite the Dems. It's sheer madness. It has NEVER been this bad in any of our lifetimes.


No the RINO GOP leadership comes up with a proposal, the Dems gleefully support it, and the conservatives strike it down. Sorry, but the GOP is supposed to be a Right-wing party( not Democrat-lite)


You guys really need to break off and form your own third party, if the current GOP leadership constitutes RINOs. All the Real Republicans can go off to be conservative by themselves.
p

We won't have to. If Cruz becomes POTUS, he will name the new RNC Chairman. The RINOs should break off, and become moderate Democrats.


What a bunch of bullshit. The GOP is the GOP, they aren't Democrats. It's the far right Tea Party extremists who are the Johnny Come Latelies who came along, invaded and who are trying to hijack the party. To them and their standards, major Republican icons like Ronald Reagan would be considered RINOs or "moderate Democrats" if they were around today. It is the sleazy Tea Party that didn't have the spine to form their own party and do things honestly.


You have no clue what a Republican is. Republicans are for limited government, capitalism, and traditional values. Here's a list of real Republicans
Here's the list of real Republicans again.
Pat Buchanan
Robert A. Taft
Ron Paul
Paul Gottfried
Hamilton Fish III
Ronald Reagan


Ronald Reagan as a proponent of limited government? LMAO!

Dude, you are hilarious. Not to mention, guys like Ron Paul and Pat Buchanan were always the FRINGE, never the CORE of the GOP. NEVER. Like I said, the Tea Party is the far right wing fringe of the GOP trying to hijack the party.


^ And to add to that, I'm saying that as someone who was a registered Republican for decades. You sound like PaleoConPrep / that kid who was asking about voter registration who is running around DCUM with a totally confabulated, fantasized and imaginary version of what the GOP was 20 and 30 years ago. You have no clue.
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2016 23:40     Subject: Obama to take Executive Action regarding Gun Control

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Congress is definitely dysfunctional. They can't even agree on things they used to agree on. It's insane. I've seen several instances where the GOP comes up with a proposal, the Dems agree to support it and then the GOP turns around and opposes their own proposal for no reason other than to spite the Dems. It's sheer madness. It has NEVER been this bad in any of our lifetimes.


No the RINO GOP leadership comes up with a proposal, the Dems gleefully support it, and the conservatives strike it down. Sorry, but the GOP is supposed to be a Right-wing party( not Democrat-lite)


You guys really need to break off and form your own third party, if the current GOP leadership constitutes RINOs. All the Real Republicans can go off to be conservative by themselves.
p

We won't have to. If Cruz becomes POTUS, he will name the new RNC Chairman. The RINOs should break off, and become moderate Democrats.


What a bunch of bullshit. The GOP is the GOP, they aren't Democrats. It's the far right Tea Party extremists who are the Johnny Come Latelies who came along, invaded and who are trying to hijack the party. To them and their standards, major Republican icons like Ronald Reagan would be considered RINOs or "moderate Democrats" if they were around today. It is the sleazy Tea Party that didn't have the spine to form their own party and do things honestly.


You have no clue what a Republican is. Republicans are for limited government, capitalism, and traditional values. Here's a list of real Republicans
Here's the list of real Republicans again.
Pat Buchanan
Robert A. Taft
Ron Paul
Paul Gottfried
Hamilton Fish III
Ronald Reagan


Ronald Reagan as a proponent of limited government? LMAO!

Dude, you are hilarious. Not to mention, guys like Ron Paul and Pat Buchanan were always the FRINGE, never the CORE of the GOP. NEVER. Like I said, the Tea Party is the far right wing fringe of the GOP trying to hijack the party.
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2016 23:24     Subject: Obama to take Executive Action regarding Gun Control

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Congress is definitely dysfunctional. They can't even agree on things they used to agree on. It's insane. I've seen several instances where the GOP comes up with a proposal, the Dems agree to support it and then the GOP turns around and opposes their own proposal for no reason other than to spite the Dems. It's sheer madness. It has NEVER been this bad in any of our lifetimes.


No the RINO GOP leadership comes up with a proposal, the Dems gleefully support it, and the conservatives strike it down. Sorry, but the GOP is supposed to be a Right-wing party( not Democrat-lite)


You guys really need to break off and form your own third party, if the current GOP leadership constitutes RINOs. All the Real Republicans can go off to be conservative by themselves.
p

We won't have to. If Cruz becomes POTUS, he will name the new RNC Chairman. The RINOs should break off, and become moderate Democrats.


What a bunch of bullshit. The GOP is the GOP, they aren't Democrats. It's the far right Tea Party extremists who are the Johnny Come Latelies who came along, invaded and who are trying to hijack the party. To them and their standards, major Republican icons like Ronald Reagan would be considered RINOs or "moderate Democrats" if they were around today. It is the sleazy Tea Party that didn't have the spine to form their own party and do things honestly.


You have no clue what a Republican is. Republicans are for limited government, capitalism, and traditional values. Here's a list of real Republicans
Here's the list of real Republicans again.
Pat Buchanan
Robert A. Taft
Ron Paul
Paul Gottfried
Hamilton Fish III
Ronald Reagan
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2016 23:08     Subject: Obama to take Executive Action regarding Gun Control

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Congress is definitely dysfunctional. They can't even agree on things they used to agree on. It's insane. I've seen several instances where the GOP comes up with a proposal, the Dems agree to support it and then the GOP turns around and opposes their own proposal for no reason other than to spite the Dems. It's sheer madness. It has NEVER been this bad in any of our lifetimes.


No the RINO GOP leadership comes up with a proposal, the Dems gleefully support it, and the conservatives strike it down. Sorry, but the GOP is supposed to be a Right-wing party( not Democrat-lite)


You guys really need to break off and form your own third party, if the current GOP leadership constitutes RINOs. All the Real Republicans can go off to be conservative by themselves.
p

We won't have to. If Cruz becomes POTUS, he will name the new RNC Chairman. The RINOs should break off, and become moderate Democrats.


What a bunch of bullshit. The GOP is the GOP, they aren't Democrats. It's the far right Tea Party extremists who are the Johnny Come Latelies who came along, invaded and who are trying to hijack the party. To them and their standards, major Republican icons like Ronald Reagan would be considered RINOs or "moderate Democrats" if they were around today. It is the sleazy Tea Party that didn't have the spine to form their own party and do things honestly.
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2016 22:22     Subject: Obama to take Executive Action regarding Gun Control

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Congress is definitely dysfunctional. They can't even agree on things they used to agree on. It's insane. I've seen several instances where the GOP comes up with a proposal, the Dems agree to support it and then the GOP turns around and opposes their own proposal for no reason other than to spite the Dems. It's sheer madness. It has NEVER been this bad in any of our lifetimes.


No the RINO GOP leadership comes up with a proposal, the Dems gleefully support it, and the conservatives strike it down. Sorry, but the GOP is supposed to be a Right-wing party( not Democrat-lite)


You guys really need to break off and form your own third party, if the current GOP leadership constitutes RINOs. All the Real Republicans can go off to be conservative by themselves.
p

We won't have to. If Cruz becomes POTUS, he will name the new RNC Chairman. The RINOs should break off, and become moderate Democrats.
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2016 22:14     Subject: Obama to take Executive Action regarding Gun Control

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Congress is definitely dysfunctional. They can't even agree on things they used to agree on. It's insane. I've seen several instances where the GOP comes up with a proposal, the Dems agree to support it and then the GOP turns around and opposes their own proposal for no reason other than to spite the Dems. It's sheer madness. It has NEVER been this bad in any of our lifetimes.


No the RINO GOP leadership comes up with a proposal, the Dems gleefully support it, and the conservatives strike it down. Sorry, but the GOP is supposed to be a Right-wing party( not Democrat-lite)


You guys really need to break off and form your own third party, if the current GOP leadership constitutes RINOs. All the Real Republicans can go off to be conservative by themselves.
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2016 22:13     Subject: Obama to take Executive Action regarding Gun Control

Anonymous wrote:Congress is definitely dysfunctional. They can't even agree on things they used to agree on. It's insane. I've seen several instances where the GOP comes up with a proposal, the Dems agree to support it and then the GOP turns around and opposes their own proposal for no reason other than to spite the Dems. It's sheer madness. It has NEVER been this bad in any of our lifetimes.


No the RINO GOP leadership comes up with a proposal, the Dems gleefully support it, and the conservatives strike it down. Sorry, but the GOP is supposed to be a Right-wing party( not Democrat-lite)
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2016 22:08     Subject: Re:Obama to take Executive Action regarding Gun Control

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don't you guys realize that by doing this, Obama has set a precedent? If Cruz wins the White House, he could use Exrcutive Order after Executive Order. And when Libs whine Cruz will say " I have a pen and a phone."


Executive Orders are older than Obama.

They're older than Bush, too.


Yes, but they generally haven't been used on things as big as gun control and immigration.


You seem to forget that Executive Orders are limited to the constraints that Congress already has on the Executive. The President isn't actually "going around Congress" when he passes an EO like this. An EO is purely a function of how executive agencies implement existing policy, within the parameters of existing laws already passed by Congress. Obama is proposing making EXISTING background checks more rigorous where it comes to high volume gun sales. The authority to do background checks is a power he already has.
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2016 22:06     Subject: Obama to take Executive Action regarding Gun Control

Congress is definitely dysfunctional. They can't even agree on things they used to agree on. It's insane. I've seen several instances where the GOP comes up with a proposal, the Dems agree to support it and then the GOP turns around and opposes their own proposal for no reason other than to spite the Dems. It's sheer madness. It has NEVER been this bad in any of our lifetimes.
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2016 21:51     Subject: Re:Obama to take Executive Action regarding Gun Control

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don't you guys realize that by doing this, Obama has set a precedent? If Cruz wins the White House, he could use Exrcutive Order after Executive Order. And when Libs whine Cruz will say " I have a pen and a phone."


Executive Orders are older than Obama.

They're older than Bush, too.


Yes, but they generally haven't been used on things as big as gun control and immigration.


And compromise wasn't always a dirty word. Dysfunction creates all kinds of problems.


I'll have to disagree on that; IMO gridlock often keeps each side from doing stupid things.


I agree, some gridlock is good. However, 100% gridlock is a bit too much of a good thing.
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2016 21:48     Subject: Re:Obama to take Executive Action regarding Gun Control

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don't you guys realize that by doing this, Obama has set a precedent? If Cruz wins the White House, he could use Exrcutive Order after Executive Order. And when Libs whine Cruz will say " I have a pen and a phone."


Executive Orders are older than Obama.

They're older than Bush, too.


Yes, but they generally haven't been used on things as big as gun control and immigration.


And compromise wasn't always a dirty word. Dysfunction creates all kinds of problems.


I'll have to disagree on that; IMO gridlock often keeps each side from doing stupid things.