Anonymous
Post 12/28/2015 12:26     Subject: Call a transgender person "he" instead of "she" or "zhe" in NYC? $125,000 fine

Anonymous wrote:

NP, that's just it. You don't get to choose what and how to address this person. You must address him or her by the noun or pronoun they choose. Not your choice.


Hilarious. I'm with the other poster, time to move to the middle of nowhere and get away from people like this. How in the world do you actually believe this drivel?
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2015 12:11     Subject: Call a transgender person "he" instead of "she" or "zhe" in NYC? $125,000 fine

Anonymous wrote:I'm as liberal as they come and I think this is mind-bogglingly ridiculous.


+1000.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2015 12:10     Subject: Re:Call a transgender person "he" instead of "she" or "zhe" in NYC? $125,000 fine

Anonymous wrote:English has a perfectly good gender neutral pronoun: "it". No need to make up silly new words.

"It" refers to animals and inanimate objects, neither of which are likely to work with you.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2015 12:08     Subject: Call a transgender person "he" instead of "she" or "zhe" in NYC? $125,000 fine

This thread makes me want to move to Montana, find a home on 30 acres, and hide from society.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2015 12:07     Subject: Re:Call a transgender person "he" instead of "she" or "zhe" in NYC? $125,000 fine

Anonymous wrote:So ridiculous. How is anyone supporting this? What a world we live in....


Anonymous
Post 12/28/2015 11:50     Subject: Re:Call a transgender person "he" instead of "she" or "zhe" in NYC? $125,000 fine

So cumbersome having to wait until words are spoken to fine people. Once we have mind-reading technology, will we be able to screen people for non-politically correct thoughts and ship them off for reeducation?
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2015 11:49     Subject: Call a transgender person "he" instead of "she" or "zhe" in NYC? $125,000 fine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do you care what other people call themselves if it doesn't affect you?


It DOES affect others.... that is precisely the point.
This law REQUIRES that OTHERS call people what they choose to be called, or suffer the consequences, which in this case, is an outrageously hefty fine.
I could care less if someone wants to be called a dick, but if I refuse to call them that, I should not be prosecuted for not doing so.


We have freedom of speech and the first amendment in this country. The NYC law sounds unconstitutional. Also, does the trans person get to dictate how people describe them when they aren't even present? For example, if the speaker is talking to his wife at home and is discussing the trans person and says "he" instead of "zhe," should be be prosecuted? It's nuts.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2015 11:41     Subject: Call a transgender person "he" instead of "she" or "zhe" in NYC? $125,000 fine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do you care what other people call themselves if it doesn't affect you?


It DOES affect others.... that is precisely the point.
This law REQUIRES that OTHERS call people what they choose to be called, or suffer the consequences, which in this case, is an outrageously hefty fine.
I could care less if someone wants to be called a dick, but if I refuse to call them that, I should not be prosecuted for not doing so.

Calling someone what they want to be called doesn't affect you. You would only suffer consequences if you chose to be a discriminatory jerk.


Sure it does. It means you're accepting their insanity. No thanks.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2015 11:13     Subject: Call a transgender person "he" instead of "she" or "zhe" in NYC? $125,000 fine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do you care what other people call themselves if it doesn't affect you?


It DOES affect others.... that is precisely the point.
This law REQUIRES that OTHERS call people what they choose to be called, or suffer the consequences, which in this case, is an outrageously hefty fine.
I could care less if someone wants to be called a dick, but if I refuse to call them that, I should not be prosecuted for not doing so.

Calling someone what they want to be called doesn't affect you. You would only suffer consequences if you chose to be a discriminatory jerk.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2015 11:13     Subject: Call a transgender person "he" instead of "she" or "zhe" in NYC? $125,000 fine

Anonymous wrote:So glad I don't live in NY.


Not sure where you are. But if it can happen there, don't think it cant in VA or MD. Especially in VA these days... At least MD has Hogan now.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2015 11:10     Subject: Call a transgender person "he" instead of "she" or "zhe" in NYC? $125,000 fine

So glad I don't live in NY.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2015 11:10     Subject: Call a transgender person "he" instead of "she" or "zhe" in NYC? $125,000 fine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I gauge from your cryptic tone that you think this is a problem.

I do not. And I think you're a bad person if you do.


You can't be serious?


I'm quite serious. Anyone who has a problem with this law, which is rooted in basic human rights and decency, is fundamentally a bad person.


Actually, anyone who doesn't have a problem with this, is crazy.

Looks like you'll be surrounded by crazy people soon then. Sucks for you.


And what if you just can't tell the sex? Or intended sex?
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2015 11:10     Subject: Call a transgender person "he" instead of "she" or "zhe" in NYC? $125,000 fine

Anonymous wrote:Why do you care what other people call themselves if it doesn't affect you?


It DOES affect others.... that is precisely the point.
This law REQUIRES that OTHERS call people what they choose to be called, or suffer the consequences, which in this case, is an outrageously hefty fine.
I could care less if someone wants to be called a dick, but if I refuse to call them that, I should not be prosecuted for not doing so.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2015 11:04     Subject: Call a transgender person "he" instead of "she" or "zhe" in NYC? $125,000 fine

Why do you care what other people call themselves if it doesn't affect you?
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2015 10:52     Subject: Re:Call a transgender person "he" instead of "she" or "zhe" in NYC? $125,000 fine

English has a perfectly good gender neutral pronoun: "it". No need to make up silly new words.