Anonymous wrote:What? DWS is favoring Hillary?? A progressive organization being led by a sexist? Is that even possible? Does the matriarchy have no limits?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bernie's not going to win, bro.
I dont think he will. Yes, I despise Clinton and I am not a Bernie fan boy. I would prefer he scare her a bit and the party is doing their best to prevent that. Thats what I find annoying.
I believe he would scare the hell out of her if there were more debates or debates during times people actually watch. Scare her in a few primaries and eventually get blown out is how I imagine it would play out.
Well Sanders just got busted for downloading her private voter data today, which I am sure scared her. So there is that.
Can you imagine outrage if the Clinton campaign had done this?
HRC is an old hand at this. She's smart enough to have it done by others without getting caught.
It's funny how you conservatives consider her to be so smart when it suits you. And so incompetent when it suits you.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bernie's not going to win, bro.
I dont think he will. Yes, I despise Clinton and I am not a Bernie fan boy. I would prefer he scare her a bit and the party is doing their best to prevent that. Thats what I find annoying.
I believe he would scare the hell out of her if there were more debates or debates during times people actually watch. Scare her in a few primaries and eventually get blown out is how I imagine it would play out.
Well Sanders just got busted for downloading her private voter data today, which I am sure scared her. So there is that.
Can you imagine outrage if the Clinton campaign had done this?
HRC is an old hand at this. She's smart enough to have it done by others without getting caught.
It's funny how you conservatives consider her to be so smart when it suits you. And so incompetent when it suits you.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Sanders campaign had reported breakdowns in the NGP VAN firewalls to the DNC before, knowing that their campaign data could be accessed just as easily (see http://www.mediaite.com/online/dnc-gets-involved-after-sanders-staffer-fired-for-accessing-clinton-voter-data/ ). Did Hillary's campaign ever report such problems, or did they just not notice, or ...?
"NGP VAN? We’ve all heard of that company before! Because that’s the company hosting the website for the South Dakota sacrificial lamb Democrat challenger to Congresswoman Kristi Noem, Paula Hawks. And through their generosity, we all knew she was running long before she was prepared to make an announcement..." (see http://dakotawarcollege.com/hawks-website-host-who-leaked-announcement-now-blamed-for-clintonsanders-data-breach/ for more).
"The DNC hires a group to manage their database and firewall between the campaigns. They screw up and [a] Sanders staffer sees and reports it. Nothing is saved or printed out and now the DNC is withholding crucial access to voter data until the Sanders campaign can prove it doesn’t have the data from the Clinton campaign and won’t release access to voter data unless somehow the Sanders campaign can prove a negative – that they have destroyed data they don’t have. Which is impossible.” (http://usuncut.com/politics/dnc-sabotages-bernie/ )
Nice spin, but the campaign's story doesn't hold up. The audit logs revealed everything the four Sanders staffers did. They did not report this breach to the vendor. Instead, they systematically searched the Clinton files, downloaded and saved them.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-12-18/sanders-campaign-fires-data-director-after-breach-of-clinton-files
Ouch!
Yep. But Bernie's campaign is going after the DNC instead of admitting they did anything wrong. That press conference was unbelievable.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Sanders campaign had reported breakdowns in the NGP VAN firewalls to the DNC before, knowing that their campaign data could be accessed just as easily (see http://www.mediaite.com/online/dnc-gets-involved-after-sanders-staffer-fired-for-accessing-clinton-voter-data/ ). Did Hillary's campaign ever report such problems, or did they just not notice, or ...?
"NGP VAN? We’ve all heard of that company before! Because that’s the company hosting the website for the South Dakota sacrificial lamb Democrat challenger to Congresswoman Kristi Noem, Paula Hawks. And through their generosity, we all knew she was running long before she was prepared to make an announcement..." (see http://dakotawarcollege.com/hawks-website-host-who-leaked-announcement-now-blamed-for-clintonsanders-data-breach/ for more).
"The DNC hires a group to manage their database and firewall between the campaigns. They screw up and [a] Sanders staffer sees and reports it. Nothing is saved or printed out and now the DNC is withholding crucial access to voter data until the Sanders campaign can prove it doesn’t have the data from the Clinton campaign and won’t release access to voter data unless somehow the Sanders campaign can prove a negative – that they have destroyed data they don’t have. Which is impossible.” (http://usuncut.com/politics/dnc-sabotages-bernie/ )
Nice spin, but the campaign's story doesn't hold up. The audit logs revealed everything the four Sanders staffers did. They did not report this breach to the vendor. Instead, they systematically searched the Clinton files, downloaded and saved them.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-12-18/sanders-campaign-fires-data-director-after-breach-of-clinton-files
Ouch!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Sanders campaign had reported breakdowns in the NGP VAN firewalls to the DNC before, knowing that their campaign data could be accessed just as easily (see http://www.mediaite.com/online/dnc-gets-involved-after-sanders-staffer-fired-for-accessing-clinton-voter-data/ ). Did Hillary's campaign ever report such problems, or did they just not notice, or ...?
"NGP VAN? We’ve all heard of that company before! Because that’s the company hosting the website for the South Dakota sacrificial lamb Democrat challenger to Congresswoman Kristi Noem, Paula Hawks. And through their generosity, we all knew she was running long before she was prepared to make an announcement..." (see http://dakotawarcollege.com/hawks-website-host-who-leaked-announcement-now-blamed-for-clintonsanders-data-breach/ for more).
"The DNC hires a group to manage their database and firewall between the campaigns. They screw up and [a] Sanders staffer sees and reports it. Nothing is saved or printed out and now the DNC is withholding crucial access to voter data until the Sanders campaign can prove it doesn’t have the data from the Clinton campaign and won’t release access to voter data unless somehow the Sanders campaign can prove a negative – that they have destroyed data they don’t have. Which is impossible.” (http://usuncut.com/politics/dnc-sabotages-bernie/ )
Nice spin, but the campaign's story doesn't hold up. The audit logs revealed everything the four Sanders staffers did. They did not report this breach to the vendor. Instead, they systematically searched the Clinton files, downloaded and saved them.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-12-18/sanders-campaign-fires-data-director-after-breach-of-clinton-files
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bernie's not going to win, bro.
I dont think he will. Yes, I despise Clinton and I am not a Bernie fan boy. I would prefer he scare her a bit and the party is doing their best to prevent that. Thats what I find annoying.
I believe he would scare the hell out of her if there were more debates or debates during times people actually watch. Scare her in a few primaries and eventually get blown out is how I imagine it would play out.
Well Sanders just got busted for downloading her private voter data today, which I am sure scared her. So there is that.
Can you imagine outrage if the Clinton campaign had done this?
HRC is an old hand at this. She's smart enough to have it done by others without getting caught.
Anonymous wrote:The Sanders campaign had reported breakdowns in the NGP VAN firewalls to the DNC before, knowing that their campaign data could be accessed just as easily (see http://www.mediaite.com/online/dnc-gets-involved-after-sanders-staffer-fired-for-accessing-clinton-voter-data/ ). Did Hillary's campaign ever report such problems, or did they just not notice, or ...?
"NGP VAN? We’ve all heard of that company before! Because that’s the company hosting the website for the South Dakota sacrificial lamb Democrat challenger to Congresswoman Kristi Noem, Paula Hawks. And through their generosity, we all knew she was running long before she was prepared to make an announcement..." (see http://dakotawarcollege.com/hawks-website-host-who-leaked-announcement-now-blamed-for-clintonsanders-data-breach/ for more).
"The DNC hires a group to manage their database and firewall between the campaigns. They screw up and [a] Sanders staffer sees and reports it. Nothing is saved or printed out and now the DNC is withholding crucial access to voter data until the Sanders campaign can prove it doesn’t have the data from the Clinton campaign and won’t release access to voter data unless somehow the Sanders campaign can prove a negative – that they have destroyed data they don’t have. Which is impossible.” (http://usuncut.com/politics/dnc-sabotages-bernie/ )
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bernie's not going to win, bro.
I dont think he will. Yes, I despise Clinton and I am not a Bernie fan boy. I would prefer he scare her a bit and the party is doing their best to prevent that. Thats what I find annoying.
I believe he would scare the hell out of her if there were more debates or debates during times people actually watch. Scare her in a few primaries and eventually get blown out is how I imagine it would play out.
Well Sanders just got busted for downloading her private voter data today, which I am sure scared her. So there is that.
Can you imagine outrage if the Clinton campaign had done this?
Anonymous wrote:The Sanders campaign had reported breakdowns in the NGP VAN firewalls to the DNC before, knowing that their campaign data could be accessed just as easily (see http://www.mediaite.com/online/dnc-gets-involved-after-sanders-staffer-fired-for-accessing-clinton-voter-data/ ). Did Hillary's campaign ever report such problems, or did they just not notice, or ...?
"NGP VAN? We’ve all heard of that company before! Because that’s the company hosting the website for the South Dakota sacrificial lamb Democrat challenger to Congresswoman Kristi Noem, Paula Hawks. And through their generosity, we all knew she was running long before she was prepared to make an announcement..." (see http://dakotawarcollege.com/hawks-website-host-who-leaked-announcement-now-blamed-for-clintonsanders-data-breach/ for more).
"The DNC hires a group to manage their database and firewall between the campaigns. They screw up and [a] Sanders staffer sees and reports it. Nothing is saved or printed out and now the DNC is withholding crucial access to voter data until the Sanders campaign can prove it doesn’t have the data from the Clinton campaign and won’t release access to voter data unless somehow the Sanders campaign can prove a negative – that they have destroyed data they don’t have. Which is impossible.” (http://usuncut.com/politics/dnc-sabotages-bernie/ )
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bernie's not going to win, bro.
I dont think he will. Yes, I despise Clinton and I am not a Bernie fan boy. I would prefer he scare her a bit and the party is doing their best to prevent that. Thats what I find annoying.
I believe he would scare the hell out of her if there were more debates or debates during times people actually watch. Scare her in a few primaries and eventually get blown out is how I imagine it would play out.
Well Sanders just got busted for downloading her private voter data today, which I am sure scared her. So there is that.
Can you imagine outrage if the Clinton campaign had done this?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If Bernie Sanders had a shot, the public would show more interest and there would be more going on with the debates.
It's really up to him to show that his candidacy is something more than him trying to pull Hillary to the left by lengthening out the process. That may be something you desire, but parties are made to get people elected, and they aren't that interested in sacrificing that goal.
I do think he's doing more than trying to pull Hilary to the left. I believe he thinks he can win. And honestly I wouldn't be surprised if he did. I think I'd prefer him to Hillary, but I would be happy with either. Cruz and Trump truly terrify me.