Anonymous
Post 12/18/2015 14:10     Subject: The DNC is a joke

Anonymous wrote:What? DWS is favoring Hillary?? A progressive organization being led by a sexist? Is that even possible? Does the matriarchy have no limits?


Wasserman Schultz is bigtime in the bag for Hillary.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2015 14:00     Subject: The DNC is a joke

What? DWS is favoring Hillary?? A progressive organization being led by a sexist? Is that even possible? Does the matriarchy have no limits?
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2015 13:58     Subject: Re:The DNC is a joke

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Bernie's not going to win, bro.


I dont think he will. Yes, I despise Clinton and I am not a Bernie fan boy. I would prefer he scare her a bit and the party is doing their best to prevent that. Thats what I find annoying.

I believe he would scare the hell out of her if there were more debates or debates during times people actually watch. Scare her in a few primaries and eventually get blown out is how I imagine it would play out.



Well Sanders just got busted for downloading her private voter data today, which I am sure scared her. So there is that.


Can you imagine outrage if the Clinton campaign had done this?



HRC is an old hand at this. She's smart enough to have it done by others without getting caught.


It's funny how you conservatives consider her to be so smart when it suits you. And so incompetent when it suits you.


She's smart for a Democrat, but that's liking saying a first grader reads really well.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2015 13:55     Subject: Re:The DNC is a joke

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Bernie's not going to win, bro.


I dont think he will. Yes, I despise Clinton and I am not a Bernie fan boy. I would prefer he scare her a bit and the party is doing their best to prevent that. Thats what I find annoying.

I believe he would scare the hell out of her if there were more debates or debates during times people actually watch. Scare her in a few primaries and eventually get blown out is how I imagine it would play out.



Well Sanders just got busted for downloading her private voter data today, which I am sure scared her. So there is that.


Can you imagine outrage if the Clinton campaign had done this?




HRC is an old hand at this. She's smart enough to have it done by others without getting caught.




It's funny how you conservatives consider her to be so smart when it suits you. And so incompetent when it suits you.



No, this would be the liberal take on GW Bush WRT WMDs and conning the likes of Biden and HRC to vote yes on war with Iran, while also being a moron. Conservatives I know all agree Clinton is damn smart, dishonest and just downright evil.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2015 13:42     Subject: Re:The DNC is a joke

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Sanders campaign had reported breakdowns in the NGP VAN firewalls to the DNC before, knowing that their campaign data could be accessed just as easily (see http://www.mediaite.com/online/dnc-gets-involved-after-sanders-staffer-fired-for-accessing-clinton-voter-data/ ). Did Hillary's campaign ever report such problems, or did they just not notice, or ...?

"NGP VAN? We’ve all heard of that company before! Because that’s the company hosting the website for the South Dakota sacrificial lamb Democrat challenger to Congresswoman Kristi Noem, Paula Hawks. And through their generosity, we all knew she was running long before she was prepared to make an announcement..." (see http://dakotawarcollege.com/hawks-website-host-who-leaked-announcement-now-blamed-for-clintonsanders-data-breach/ for more).

"The DNC hires a group to manage their database and firewall between the campaigns. They screw up and [a] Sanders staffer sees and reports it. Nothing is saved or printed out and now the DNC is withholding crucial access to voter data until the Sanders campaign can prove it doesn’t have the data from the Clinton campaign and won’t release access to voter data unless somehow the Sanders campaign can prove a negative – that they have destroyed data they don’t have. Which is impossible.” (http://usuncut.com/politics/dnc-sabotages-bernie/ )


Nice spin, but the campaign's story doesn't hold up. The audit logs revealed everything the four Sanders staffers did. They did not report this breach to the vendor. Instead, they systematically searched the Clinton files, downloaded and saved them.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-12-18/sanders-campaign-fires-data-director-after-breach-of-clinton-files



Ouch!


Yep. But Bernie's campaign is going after the DNC instead of admitting they did anything wrong. That press conference was unbelievable.


I didn't see the press conference, but it really presents a challenge for Sanders. He can fire everyone in sight, but they can't unsee the data. And they can't run a campaign without access to at least their own data.

Now I finally understand what they mean when they say "feel the Bern".
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2015 13:40     Subject: Re:The DNC is a joke

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Sanders campaign had reported breakdowns in the NGP VAN firewalls to the DNC before, knowing that their campaign data could be accessed just as easily (see http://www.mediaite.com/online/dnc-gets-involved-after-sanders-staffer-fired-for-accessing-clinton-voter-data/ ). Did Hillary's campaign ever report such problems, or did they just not notice, or ...?

"NGP VAN? We’ve all heard of that company before! Because that’s the company hosting the website for the South Dakota sacrificial lamb Democrat challenger to Congresswoman Kristi Noem, Paula Hawks. And through their generosity, we all knew she was running long before she was prepared to make an announcement..." (see http://dakotawarcollege.com/hawks-website-host-who-leaked-announcement-now-blamed-for-clintonsanders-data-breach/ for more).

"The DNC hires a group to manage their database and firewall between the campaigns. They screw up and [a] Sanders staffer sees and reports it. Nothing is saved or printed out and now the DNC is withholding crucial access to voter data until the Sanders campaign can prove it doesn’t have the data from the Clinton campaign and won’t release access to voter data unless somehow the Sanders campaign can prove a negative – that they have destroyed data they don’t have. Which is impossible.” (http://usuncut.com/politics/dnc-sabotages-bernie/ )


Nice spin, but the campaign's story doesn't hold up. The audit logs revealed everything the four Sanders staffers did. They did not report this breach to the vendor. Instead, they systematically searched the Clinton files, downloaded and saved them.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-12-18/sanders-campaign-fires-data-director-after-breach-of-clinton-files



Ouch!


Yep. But Bernie's campaign is going after the DNC instead of admitting they did anything wrong. That press conference was unbelievable.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2015 13:36     Subject: Re:The DNC is a joke

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Sanders campaign had reported breakdowns in the NGP VAN firewalls to the DNC before, knowing that their campaign data could be accessed just as easily (see http://www.mediaite.com/online/dnc-gets-involved-after-sanders-staffer-fired-for-accessing-clinton-voter-data/ ). Did Hillary's campaign ever report such problems, or did they just not notice, or ...?

"NGP VAN? We’ve all heard of that company before! Because that’s the company hosting the website for the South Dakota sacrificial lamb Democrat challenger to Congresswoman Kristi Noem, Paula Hawks. And through their generosity, we all knew she was running long before she was prepared to make an announcement..." (see http://dakotawarcollege.com/hawks-website-host-who-leaked-announcement-now-blamed-for-clintonsanders-data-breach/ for more).

"The DNC hires a group to manage their database and firewall between the campaigns. They screw up and [a] Sanders staffer sees and reports it. Nothing is saved or printed out and now the DNC is withholding crucial access to voter data until the Sanders campaign can prove it doesn’t have the data from the Clinton campaign and won’t release access to voter data unless somehow the Sanders campaign can prove a negative – that they have destroyed data they don’t have. Which is impossible.” (http://usuncut.com/politics/dnc-sabotages-bernie/ )


Nice spin, but the campaign's story doesn't hold up. The audit logs revealed everything the four Sanders staffers did. They did not report this breach to the vendor. Instead, they systematically searched the Clinton files, downloaded and saved them.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-12-18/sanders-campaign-fires-data-director-after-breach-of-clinton-files



Ouch!
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2015 13:36     Subject: Re:The DNC is a joke

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Bernie's not going to win, bro.


I dont think he will. Yes, I despise Clinton and I am not a Bernie fan boy. I would prefer he scare her a bit and the party is doing their best to prevent that. Thats what I find annoying.

I believe he would scare the hell out of her if there were more debates or debates during times people actually watch. Scare her in a few primaries and eventually get blown out is how I imagine it would play out.



Well Sanders just got busted for downloading her private voter data today, which I am sure scared her. So there is that.


Can you imagine outrage if the Clinton campaign had done this?




HRC is an old hand at this. She's smart enough to have it done by others without getting caught.


It's funny how you conservatives consider her to be so smart when it suits you. And so incompetent when it suits you.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2015 13:33     Subject: Re:The DNC is a joke

Anonymous wrote:The Sanders campaign had reported breakdowns in the NGP VAN firewalls to the DNC before, knowing that their campaign data could be accessed just as easily (see http://www.mediaite.com/online/dnc-gets-involved-after-sanders-staffer-fired-for-accessing-clinton-voter-data/ ). Did Hillary's campaign ever report such problems, or did they just not notice, or ...?

"NGP VAN? We’ve all heard of that company before! Because that’s the company hosting the website for the South Dakota sacrificial lamb Democrat challenger to Congresswoman Kristi Noem, Paula Hawks. And through their generosity, we all knew she was running long before she was prepared to make an announcement..." (see http://dakotawarcollege.com/hawks-website-host-who-leaked-announcement-now-blamed-for-clintonsanders-data-breach/ for more).

"The DNC hires a group to manage their database and firewall between the campaigns. They screw up and [a] Sanders staffer sees and reports it. Nothing is saved or printed out and now the DNC is withholding crucial access to voter data until the Sanders campaign can prove it doesn’t have the data from the Clinton campaign and won’t release access to voter data unless somehow the Sanders campaign can prove a negative – that they have destroyed data they don’t have. Which is impossible.” (http://usuncut.com/politics/dnc-sabotages-bernie/ )


How about full access audits? I would not be surprised if the Clinton campaign has been exploiting Sanders outreach efforts all along.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2015 13:16     Subject: Re:The DNC is a joke

Looks like Bernie’s campaign is not taking this action by the DNC lightly.
They are demanding immediate access to the records or are filing in federal court.
Sounds like they have some information about previous incidences that cause them to believe the DNC is not telling the full story.
They want a full independent audit of the DNC and its records.
I’m thinking they don’t think much of Debbie Wasserman Schultz. But, then again, who does?
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2015 13:15     Subject: Re:The DNC is a joke

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Bernie's not going to win, bro.


I dont think he will. Yes, I despise Clinton and I am not a Bernie fan boy. I would prefer he scare her a bit and the party is doing their best to prevent that. Thats what I find annoying.

I believe he would scare the hell out of her if there were more debates or debates during times people actually watch. Scare her in a few primaries and eventually get blown out is how I imagine it would play out.



Well Sanders just got busted for downloading her private voter data today, which I am sure scared her. So there is that.


Can you imagine outrage if the Clinton campaign had done this?




HRC is an old hand at this. She's smart enough to have it done by others without getting caught.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2015 13:05     Subject: Re:The DNC is a joke

Anonymous wrote:The Sanders campaign had reported breakdowns in the NGP VAN firewalls to the DNC before, knowing that their campaign data could be accessed just as easily (see http://www.mediaite.com/online/dnc-gets-involved-after-sanders-staffer-fired-for-accessing-clinton-voter-data/ ). Did Hillary's campaign ever report such problems, or did they just not notice, or ...?

"NGP VAN? We’ve all heard of that company before! Because that’s the company hosting the website for the South Dakota sacrificial lamb Democrat challenger to Congresswoman Kristi Noem, Paula Hawks. And through their generosity, we all knew she was running long before she was prepared to make an announcement..." (see http://dakotawarcollege.com/hawks-website-host-who-leaked-announcement-now-blamed-for-clintonsanders-data-breach/ for more).

"The DNC hires a group to manage their database and firewall between the campaigns. They screw up and [a] Sanders staffer sees and reports it. Nothing is saved or printed out and now the DNC is withholding crucial access to voter data until the Sanders campaign can prove it doesn’t have the data from the Clinton campaign and won’t release access to voter data unless somehow the Sanders campaign can prove a negative – that they have destroyed data they don’t have. Which is impossible.” (http://usuncut.com/politics/dnc-sabotages-bernie/ )


Nice spin, but the campaign's story doesn't hold up. The audit logs revealed everything the four Sanders staffers did. They did not report this breach to the vendor. Instead, they systematically searched the Clinton files, downloaded and saved them.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-12-18/sanders-campaign-fires-data-director-after-breach-of-clinton-files

Anonymous
Post 12/18/2015 13:00     Subject: Re:The DNC is a joke

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Bernie's not going to win, bro.


I dont think he will. Yes, I despise Clinton and I am not a Bernie fan boy. I would prefer he scare her a bit and the party is doing their best to prevent that. Thats what I find annoying.

I believe he would scare the hell out of her if there were more debates or debates during times people actually watch. Scare her in a few primaries and eventually get blown out is how I imagine it would play out.



Well Sanders just got busted for downloading her private voter data today, which I am sure scared her. So there is that.


Can you imagine outrage if the Clinton campaign had done this?



LOL. Does no one here know the history of the Clintons?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_FBI_files_controversy


Anonymous
Post 12/18/2015 11:20     Subject: Re:The DNC is a joke

The Sanders campaign had reported breakdowns in the NGP VAN firewalls to the DNC before, knowing that their campaign data could be accessed just as easily (see http://www.mediaite.com/online/dnc-gets-involved-after-sanders-staffer-fired-for-accessing-clinton-voter-data/ ). Did Hillary's campaign ever report such problems, or did they just not notice, or ...?

"NGP VAN? We’ve all heard of that company before! Because that’s the company hosting the website for the South Dakota sacrificial lamb Democrat challenger to Congresswoman Kristi Noem, Paula Hawks. And through their generosity, we all knew she was running long before she was prepared to make an announcement..." (see http://dakotawarcollege.com/hawks-website-host-who-leaked-announcement-now-blamed-for-clintonsanders-data-breach/ for more).

"The DNC hires a group to manage their database and firewall between the campaigns. They screw up and [a] Sanders staffer sees and reports it. Nothing is saved or printed out and now the DNC is withholding crucial access to voter data until the Sanders campaign can prove it doesn’t have the data from the Clinton campaign and won’t release access to voter data unless somehow the Sanders campaign can prove a negative – that they have destroyed data they don’t have. Which is impossible.” (http://usuncut.com/politics/dnc-sabotages-bernie/ )
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2015 11:02     Subject: The DNC is a joke

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If Bernie Sanders had a shot, the public would show more interest and there would be more going on with the debates.

It's really up to him to show that his candidacy is something more than him trying to pull Hillary to the left by lengthening out the process. That may be something you desire, but parties are made to get people elected, and they aren't that interested in sacrificing that goal.



I do think he's doing more than trying to pull Hilary to the left. I believe he thinks he can win. And honestly I wouldn't be surprised if he did. I think I'd prefer him to Hillary, but I would be happy with either. Cruz and Trump truly terrify me.


He thinks so too. He says he is already writing his inaugural address.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-inaugural-address_5672f21ce4b0648fe30284a6?ir=Politics%3Fncid%3Dnewsltushpmg00000003

In the meantime, Iowa progressives are annoyed that he's not campaigning there more, and his overall campaign schedule is much less rigorous than Hillary's. She's working much harder to win than he is.