Anonymous
12/09/2015 13:38
Subject: Re:My Husband Supports Trump
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Divorce him. Seriously. I couldn't stay married to someone with those values.
+1
I'm about to uninvite my ILs for the holidays. I don't want my children exposed to that kind of hate and ignorance.
This attitude right here is part of the reason Trump is having success.
As a college professor, I agree 100% with this. PP is one of those "don't expose me to ideas I disagree with" types.... the coddling students I teach on a daily basis who don't want rigorous arguments challenging them to defend their views.
Yep. OP and all these others who are telling OP to divorce your husband over politics need to take a step back. People in this city care WAY more about politics than people in other parts of the country, and I'm not sure that is a good thing. My DH and I tend to vote for different parties' candidates and I'm always surprised how surprised people are about this. In the grand scheme of things, your politics don't matter that much to your relationship, OP. Ask DH not to discuss Trump anymore if you can't take it but don't let this infect your relationship - it's not actually all that important relative to his general disposition as a husband and father.
I'm one of the people who said divorce. I agree with you that relationships transcend politics, but supporting Trump means you support excluding people from the U.S. on the basis on religion, putting certain religious minorities on a special registration list, and that people with disabilities are less-than. Those are values that I couldn't live with in a spouse, which is more than merely politics.
Anonymous
12/09/2015 13:33
Subject: Re:My Husband Supports Trump
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Divorce him. Seriously. I couldn't stay married to someone with those values.
+1
I'm about to uninvite my ILs for the holidays. I don't want my children exposed to that kind of hate and ignorance.
This attitude right here is part of the reason Trump is having success.
As a college professor, I agree 100% with this. PP is one of those "don't expose me to ideas I disagree with" types.... the coddling students I teach on a daily basis who don't want rigorous arguments challenging them to defend their views.
Yep. OP and all these others who are telling OP to divorce your husband over politics need to take a step back. People in this city care WAY more about politics than people in other parts of the country, and I'm not sure that is a good thing. My DH and I tend to vote for different parties' candidates and I'm always surprised how surprised people are about this. In the grand scheme of things, your politics don't matter that much to your relationship, OP. Ask DH not to discuss Trump anymore if you can't take it but don't let this infect your relationship - it's not actually all that important relative to his general disposition as a husband and father.
Anonymous
12/09/2015 13:31
Subject: Re:My Husband Supports Trump
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Divorce him. Seriously. I couldn't stay married to someone with those values.
+1
I'm about to uninvite my ILs for the holidays. I don't want my children exposed to that kind of hate and ignorance.
I'm the person on the politics thread who has started posting snopes links in response to family member facebook postings that are blatantly false. I'm hoping it enrages them and they won't come spew their hate for Christmas.
Anonymous
12/09/2015 13:18
Subject: Re:My Husband Supports Trump
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Divorce him. Seriously. I couldn't stay married to someone with those values.
+1
I'm about to uninvite my ILs for the holidays. I don't want my children exposed to that kind of hate and ignorance.
This attitude right here is part of the reason Trump is having success.
+1
Anonymous
12/09/2015 13:12
Subject: Re:My Husband Supports Trump
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Divorce him. Seriously. I couldn't stay married to someone with those values.
+1
I'm about to uninvite my ILs for the holidays. I don't want my children exposed to that kind of hate and ignorance.
This attitude right here is part of the reason Trump is having success.
As a college professor, I agree 100% with this. PP is one of those "don't expose me to ideas I disagree with" types.... the coddling students I teach on a daily basis who don't want rigorous arguments challenging them to defend their views.
As a college professor, I would hope that you are teaching your students that there is a meaningful difference between opinions that are actively xenophobic and based on lies and opinions that are simply different from their own. Trump has repeatedly lied about things that are verifiable, suggested policies that are unconstitutional, made comments that are blatantly racist, and shown absolutely no remorse for this behavior. I would be utterly delighted to not be exposed to his ideas - not just because I disagree with them, but because they are antithetical to pretty much everything I believe - and if I found out that a close friend or relative agreed with those things, I would not want to associate with that person any longer.
+1000
I'm the PP who might uninvite ILs over this. We have a very diverse extended family - politics, religion, race, nationalities, etc. - and usually we do have healthy discussions about world topics with a variety of viewpoints. ILs have been leaning way way left in recent years and may have gone over the line in terms of ethics in my mind. My DH is a Republican (moderate) and he was shocked by what they said at Thanksgiving. Just like I said earlier, I don't want my children exposed to that. It's just not a difference of opinion, it's pure hatred of others.
Do you mean your ILs are leaning way right? I can't imagine where getting further left can get you into the realm of "pure hatred."
Anonymous
12/09/2015 13:12
Subject: Re:My Husband Supports Trump
Divorce. It's the only way.
Anonymous
12/09/2015 13:11
Subject: Re:My Husband Supports Trump
I'm too afraid that my husband might be like OP's husband that I don't even broach the subject.
Anonymous
12/09/2015 13:05
Subject: Re:My Husband Supports Trump
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Divorce him. Seriously. I couldn't stay married to someone with those values.
+1
I'm about to uninvite my ILs for the holidays. I don't want my children exposed to that kind of hate and ignorance.
This attitude right here is part of the reason Trump is having success.
As a college professor, I agree 100% with this. PP is one of those "don't expose me to ideas I disagree with" types.... the coddling students I teach on a daily basis who don't want rigorous arguments challenging them to defend their views.
As a college professor, I would hope that you are teaching your students that there is a meaningful difference between opinions that are actively xenophobic and based on lies and opinions that are simply different from their own. Trump has repeatedly lied about things that are verifiable, suggested policies that are unconstitutional, made comments that are blatantly racist, and shown absolutely no remorse for this behavior. I would be utterly delighted to not be exposed to his ideas - not just because I disagree with them, but because they are antithetical to pretty much everything I believe - and if I found out that a close friend or relative agreed with those things, I would not want to associate with that person any longer.
+1000
I'm the PP who might uninvite ILs over this. We have a very diverse extended family - politics, religion, race, nationalities, etc. - and usually we do have healthy discussions about world topics with a variety of viewpoints. ILs have been leaning way way left in recent years and may have gone over the line in terms of ethics in my mind. My DH is a Republican (moderate) and he was shocked by what they said at Thanksgiving. Just like I said earlier, I don't want my children exposed to that. It's just not a difference of opinion, it's pure hatred of others.
Anonymous
12/09/2015 12:27
Subject: My Husband Supports Trump
Anonymous wrote:Mine too. I was dumbfounded when I made the statement at dinner with his friends (all republican, I'm democrat), thinking well, hell, I'll find common ground, "At least we can all agree that Trump is a total moron." I was very proud of myself for thinking of a way to have conversation with a table full of republicans.
Until they all disagreed vehemently with me.
I just drank wine the rest of the night.
This made me laugh. So sorry PP!! Your husband and friends aren't even the reasonable kind of republicans
My family is all republicans but tend to be more moderate, Romney and McCain supporters. I was dreading Thanksgiving and discussingTrump, but relieved to find out my parents don't support him at all. My brother, though... :/
My mom does like Ben Carson because seems nice, though.
Anonymous
12/09/2015 12:27
Subject: Re:My Husband Supports Trump
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Divorce him. Seriously. I couldn't stay married to someone with those values.
+1
I'm about to uninvite my ILs for the holidays. I don't want my children exposed to that kind of hate and ignorance.
This attitude right here is part of the reason Trump is having success.
As a college professor, I agree 100% with this. PP is one of those "don't expose me to ideas I disagree with" types.... the coddling students I teach on a daily basis who don't want rigorous arguments challenging them to defend their views.
As a college professor, I would hope that you are teaching your students that there is a meaningful difference between opinions that are actively xenophobic and based on lies and opinions that are simply different from their own. Trump has repeatedly lied about things that are verifiable, suggested policies that are unconstitutional, made comments that are blatantly racist, and shown absolutely no remorse for this behavior. I would be utterly delighted to not be exposed to his ideas - not just because I disagree with them, but because they are antithetical to pretty much everything I believe - and if I found out that a close friend or relative agreed with those things, I would not want to associate with that person any longer.
Can't say I'm surprised. Academia ain't what it used to be.
Anonymous
12/09/2015 12:26
Subject: My Husband Supports Trump
OP - do you have children? If so, this is a great teaching opportunity. You have the opportunity to teach them that people - even married people - can disagree and have intelligent discussions about real issues that matter.
In our home we are both of the same political ilk, and so are all our friends and family (those whom we still visit) so there is very little real discussion about issues like this. We don't keep the news on, and we don't really discuss politics (we do vote and we do talk about the importance of voting)
Give it a go - but don't spiral into emotional screaming matches.
In our home we are both of the same political ilk, and so are all our friends and family (those whom we still visit) so there is very little real discussion about issues like this. We don't keep the news on, and we don't really discuss politics (we do vote and we do talk about the importance of voting)
Give it a go - but don't spiral into emotional screaming matches.
Anonymous
12/09/2015 12:24
Subject: My Husband Supports Trump
God I don't know what I'd do OP. Politics are very important to me and I won't even date someone too far right - I just know upfront it isn't going to work. Did you have any inkling of this before now??
Anonymous
12/09/2015 12:23
Subject: Re:My Husband Supports Trump
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Divorce him. Seriously. I couldn't stay married to someone with those values.
+1
I'm about to uninvite my ILs for the holidays. I don't want my children exposed to that kind of hate and ignorance.
+2!
Trump's two steps away from full blown Nazi at this point.
It's not funny. It's hideous.
You and your DH are in my prayers.
Anonymous
12/09/2015 12:22
Subject: Re:My Husband Supports Trump
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Divorce him. Seriously. I couldn't stay married to someone with those values.
+1
I'm about to uninvite my ILs for the holidays. I don't want my children exposed to that kind of hate and ignorance.
This attitude right here is part of the reason Trump is having success.
As a college professor, I agree 100% with this. PP is one of those "don't expose me to ideas I disagree with" types.... the coddling students I teach on a daily basis who don't want rigorous arguments challenging them to defend their views.
Except Trump isn't making any "rigorous arguments." He's just being xenophobic.
exactly
Anonymous
12/09/2015 12:19
Subject: My Husband Supports Trump
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh for Pete's sake! Really? Is THAT your problem?
Stop trolling.
OP here. I'm definitely not trolling, and I'm not actually very liberal or political. I really thought that all rational humans could agree that he could NEVER be president and that this little fad he's having is a reaction to other things instead of agreement with his insanity.
I try to avoid the topic, since I'm not into politics, but Fox news is on every morning and evening, and DH will bring it up on his own.
OK. Let him play this game. If he's otherwise a good husband, who the fuck cares about his politics? Especially, if you are not very political yourself.
FWIW, there is no subject under the sun that has all (no matter how rational) humans in agreement. It's against human nature.