Anonymous
11/28/2015 11:33
Subject: BLM protests shuts down the Magnificent Mile in Chicago
I don't remember that the execution-style murder of that 7 year old boy in Chicago caused as much concern and outrage.
And the crime in New Orleans where a guy tried to kidnap a woman and then shot (and tried several times to kill) her Good Samaritan hardly gets any attention.
And the crime in New Orleans where a guy tried to kidnap a woman and then shot (and tried several times to kill) her Good Samaritan hardly gets any attention.
Anonymous
11/28/2015 11:32
Subject: BLM protests shuts down the Magnificent Mile in Chicago
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Who cares about Chicago? Nobody.
Except when a white cop shoots a black guy ........... and then Chicago matters and BLM decides that it warrants protesting and inconveniencing shoppers.
Ah, so inconvenienced rich white shoppers is more of a big deal than a cop gunning down a teenager with 15 bullets and then lying about it.
A teenage black life is worth less than a white consumer being delayed 30 minutes while shopping.
That's basically what's being said here... And sadly it proves BLM's point.
Yes. My family is Egyptian and the protests that started about police bruality, by the way, on National Police Day, shut down the city near Tahrir Square. For YEARS. And yet, as far as I could tell, most Americans were cheering them on. But let BLACK Americans protest police brutality? Unacceptable.
You are missing the point: it is not that police brutality should be condoned. It is that thousands of blacks being killed by other blacks should matter a lot more. If there were no killings by the police, you would still have a horrendous number of blacks being killed by other blacks. It has been going on for years and merely getting worse.
black on black crime (silly term) is down 35-40 percent. I have no idea whats going on in Chicago.....I never viewed chicago as violent like DC or LA in the mid 90's, so its surprising to me. Also look at incarceration rates for blacks compared to other groups the last 10-15 years its actually decreased while other groups are increasing
Anonymous
11/28/2015 11:28
Subject: Re:BLM protests shuts down the Magnificent Mile in Chicago
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here's the difference:
Of course violent crime is horrible, and of course blacks hate being victimized by criminals - but, one expects criminals to be criminals.
But when cops are the ones engaging in criminal behavior, it's not only the crime that's horrible, it's the betrayal as well that makes it even worse - that the people who are supposed to be protecting you are the ones victimizing you.
And the fact that the number of black on black deaths exceeds by many times the number of those from police misconduct/brutality makes no difference?
You shouldn't be shot and killed by your own government.
No, but you should also - as a parent - be responsible for your own kids. When parents lose control of their kids, the government takes over - social services or jail. That's the way it goes, folks.
Of course, we can say that poverty is the root of all evil. But again, with social programs (WIC, Medicaid, Job Corps, migrant training, you name it), why do people stay within victim mode?
We've basically fucked ourselves by ignoring how to wean people off programs.
The answer isn't more government. Instead, we need more transition services. Furthermore, mandate sensitivity training for police.
But most importantly? Parents NEED to be parents. I don't care how goddamn poor you are. Your kids come first. There are more than a few success stories out there of people overcoming the odds.
Spot on!
But don't expect your viewpoint to receive much support from liberals.
Anonymous
11/28/2015 11:09
Subject: Re:BLM protests shuts down the Magnificent Mile in Chicago
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here's the difference:
Of course violent crime is horrible, and of course blacks hate being victimized by criminals - but, one expects criminals to be criminals.
But when cops are the ones engaging in criminal behavior, it's not only the crime that's horrible, it's the betrayal as well that makes it even worse - that the people who are supposed to be protecting you are the ones victimizing you.
And the fact that the number of black on black deaths exceeds by many times the number of those from police misconduct/brutality makes no difference?
You shouldn't be shot and killed by your own government.
No, but you should also - as a parent - be responsible for your own kids. When parents lose control of their kids, the government takes over - social services or jail. That's the way it goes, folks.
Of course, we can say that poverty is the root of all evil. But again, with social programs (WIC, Medicaid, Job Corps, migrant training, you name it), why do people stay within victim mode?
We've basically fucked ourselves by ignoring how to wean people off programs.
The answer isn't more government. Instead, we need more transition services. Furthermore, mandate sensitivity training for police.
But most importantly? Parents NEED to be parents. I don't care how goddamn poor you are. Your kids come first. There are more than a few success stories out there of people overcoming the odds.
Anonymous
11/28/2015 10:54
Subject: BLM protests shuts down the Magnificent Mile in Chicago
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Black on black violence and police violence against blacks are in some ways part and parcel of the same thing, that being a lack of regard for poor minorities, just look at how many of those black on black murders go unsolved. In many cases they are barely even investigated, with police turning a blind eye to the violence rather than aggressively getting the violent offenders off the street.
If the police took an aggressive stand in dealing with the violent offenders you can be sure that the BLM and their ilk will be accusing them of brutality.
The police have gotten themselves into a chicken and egg situation by devaluating and abusing poor communities, to the point of those communities viewing the cops as being just as bad as the criminals who prey on them. As a result, poor communities don't trust them and don't cooperate with them. The police need to work on improving that relationship, and that will then help toward being able to solving the distrust, improving the culture and getting the violent offenders off the street.
Here's a link to Police Social Work - http://www.naswnyc.org/?page=77
a solution or an opening of Pandora's box?
same can be said of schools now that the disciplinary guidelines have been watered down - While Restorative practices are important as proactive measures, how much do we blur the lines between schools and homes? Would you prefer - as a parent - to deal with your own child's disciplinary issues, or would you rather have the state take over by involving social workers and psychologists?
That's the root. Either handle your own family by creating community, or allow the government to intervene - either through social programs or sadly, violence.
Anonymous
11/28/2015 10:42
Subject: BLM protests shuts down the Magnificent Mile in Chicago
P typo above: Indicting, not indicating.
Anonymous
11/28/2015 10:42
Subject: Re:BLM protests shuts down the Magnificent Mile in Chicago
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here's the difference:
Of course violent crime is horrible, and of course blacks hate being victimized by criminals - but, one expects criminals to be criminals.
But when cops are the ones engaging in criminal behavior, it's not only the crime that's horrible, it's the betrayal as well that makes it even worse - that the people who are supposed to be protecting you are the ones victimizing you.
And the fact that the number of black on black deaths exceeds by many times the number of those from police misconduct/brutality makes no difference?
You shouldn't be shot and killed by your own government.
Anonymous
11/28/2015 10:42
Subject: BLM protests shuts down the Magnificent Mile in Chicago
The videotape of the cop shooting the suspect is upsetting and I trust the prosecutors to know their job in indicating him. That said, didn't the suspect brandish a knife at the police and then walk away? I thought that was one of the situations where the use of deadly force to stop a fleeing suspect is justified. I'm not saying that would have been the most appropriate course here, but as a legal matter can't the police use force to stop someone who threatens them with a weapon?
Anonymous
11/28/2015 10:42
Subject: BLM protests shuts down the Magnificent Mile in Chicago
Anonymous wrote: Ah, so inconvenienced rich white shoppers is more of a big deal than a cop gunning down a teenager with 15 bullets and then lying about it.
A teenage black life is worth less than a white consumer being delayed 30 minutes while shopping.
That's basically what's being said here... And sadly it proves BLM's point.
Black people think everything is about race. If a white criminal had been shot 15 times by police, I wouldn't give a damn either. One less piece of trash on the streets as far as I'm concerned. Protesters who block streets and interfere with traffic should be arrested.
Anonymous
11/28/2015 10:41
Subject: Re:BLM protests shuts down the Magnificent Mile in Chicago
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here's the difference:
Of course violent crime is horrible, and of course blacks hate being victimized by criminals - but, one expects criminals to be criminals.
But when cops are the ones engaging in criminal behavior, it's not only the crime that's horrible, it's the betrayal as well that makes it even worse - that the people who are supposed to be protecting you are the ones victimizing you.
And the fact that the number of black on black deaths exceeds by many times the number of those from police misconduct/brutality makes no difference?
Then statistically you should be mad that they are not protesting cigarette companies. But you aren't.
Anonymous
11/28/2015 10:26
Subject: Re:BLM protests shuts down the Magnificent Mile in Chicago
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here's the difference:
Of course violent crime is horrible, and of course blacks hate being victimized by criminals - but, one expects criminals to be criminals.
But when cops are the ones engaging in criminal behavior, it's not only the crime that's horrible, it's the betrayal as well that makes it even worse - that the people who are supposed to be protecting you are the ones victimizing you.
And the fact that the number of black on black deaths exceeds by many times the number of those from police misconduct/brutality makes no difference?
They are two different issues that are handled differently. Why is this so hard to understand?
Anonymous
11/28/2015 10:22
Subject: BLM protests shuts down the Magnificent Mile in Chicago
It is sad that here in Chicago there was a nine year old murdered last month because his father was in a gang. It was in retaliation by a rival gang. There was some media coverage about how sad it was but not the outrage that it deserved. It seems that the media and all powerful whites are afraid of being offensive but the elephant in the room is that black lives will matter more when blacks as a whole begin acting like they matter. They need to get their s*^# together family by family. The way to be respected is to act respectable and respect yourself. **I do realize that this is a completely separate issue from the racism that BLM are protesting.
Anonymous
11/28/2015 10:11
Subject: Re:BLM protests shuts down the Magnificent Mile in Chicago
Anonymous wrote:Here's the difference:
Of course violent crime is horrible, and of course blacks hate being victimized by criminals - but, one expects criminals to be criminals.
But when cops are the ones engaging in criminal behavior, it's not only the crime that's horrible, it's the betrayal as well that makes it even worse - that the people who are supposed to be protecting you are the ones victimizing you.
And the fact that the number of black on black deaths exceeds by many times the number of those from police misconduct/brutality makes no difference?
Anonymous
11/28/2015 10:07
Subject: BLM protests shuts down the Magnificent Mile in Chicago
Anonymous
11/28/2015 10:06
Subject: Re:BLM protests shuts down the Magnificent Mile in Chicago
Here's the difference:
Of course violent crime is horrible, and of course blacks hate being victimized by criminals - but, one expects criminals to be criminals.
But when cops are the ones engaging in criminal behavior, it's not only the crime that's horrible, it's the betrayal as well that makes it even worse - that the people who are supposed to be protecting you are the ones victimizing you.
Of course violent crime is horrible, and of course blacks hate being victimized by criminals - but, one expects criminals to be criminals.
But when cops are the ones engaging in criminal behavior, it's not only the crime that's horrible, it's the betrayal as well that makes it even worse - that the people who are supposed to be protecting you are the ones victimizing you.