Anonymous
11/27/2015 22:47
Subject: MD state schools vs. VA state schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Two-thirds of applicants get accepted at George Mason University and James Madison University.
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/gmu-3749
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/jmu-3721
While either school may end up being the right choice for your child, these are not schools to base a house purchase decision upon.
Consider the merits of UVA - VT - William & Mary vs. UM-CP. After that, don't worry about it.
Totally disagree. If your child is interested in any state school, it's well worth it to be living in that state. James Madison and George Mason are both very good schools and I'd be happy if my kids went to either.
I'm the PP and I disagree with this. If your kid has his heart set on JMU then, sure, go ahead and move -- but that seems silly for a school of that caliber. JMU and GMU are not "both very good schools" -- they are both very "OK" schools, and they are easy to get into. Your kid could likely get in from out-of-state without too much trouble. But, yes, it'll cost you a lot more.
I'm not sure where you're getting your information or what high schools you're familiar with, but my kids attend an excellent FCPS high school where it's very difficult to get into UVA, W&M, JMU, VT, and yes, GMU. It's much harder to be accepted to these schools if you're coming from a top notch NoVA high school. The deck is stacked against those students and no one from this area would say they're "easy to get into". And, just to correct you - they are actually "very good schools," not merely "OK".
Anonymous
11/27/2015 19:41
Subject: MD state schools vs. VA state schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Two-thirds of applicants get accepted at George Mason University and James Madison University.
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/gmu-3749
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/jmu-3721
While either school may end up being the right choice for your child, these are not schools to base a house purchase decision upon.
Consider the merits of UVA - VT - William & Mary vs. UM-CP. After that, don't worry about it.
Totally disagree. If your child is interested in any state school, it's well worth it to be living in that state. James Madison and George Mason are both very good schools and I'd be happy if my kids went to either.
I'm the PP and I disagree with this. If your kid has his heart set on JMU then, sure, go ahead and move -- but that seems silly for a school of that caliber. JMU and GMU are not "both very good schools" -- they are both very "OK" schools, and they are easy to get into. Your kid could likely get in from out-of-state without too much trouble. But, yes, it'll cost you a lot more.
Here's the deal. UVA and W&M are both considered better schools in most areas than UMD, and GMU and JMU are a cut of two above a UMBC or a Towson. And there's also Virginia Tech, of course, as well as other schools in VA as good as UMBC and the other state schools in MD.
So if you are focusing on in-state options, VA is the better choice for most, hands down. Regurgitating stats on admissions rates won't change that an iota.
I'm a UVA CS grad, and I'm perfectly aware that UMCP is a better school for most STEM fields than UVA is. It's night and day better than W&M for STEM. I think arguing about JMU/GMU/UMBC is kind of silly since nobody outside of this area know anything about them.
Anonymous
11/27/2015 18:48
Subject: MD state schools vs. VA state schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Two-thirds of applicants get accepted at George Mason University and James Madison University.
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/gmu-3749
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/jmu-3721
While either school may end up being the right choice for your child, these are not schools to base a house purchase decision upon.
Consider the merits of UVA - VT - William & Mary vs. UM-CP. After that, don't worry about it.
Totally disagree. If your child is interested in any state school, it's well worth it to be living in that state. James Madison and George Mason are both very good schools and I'd be happy if my kids went to either.
I'm the PP and I disagree with this. If your kid has his heart set on JMU then, sure, go ahead and move -- but that seems silly for a school of that caliber. JMU and GMU are not "both very good schools" -- they are both very "OK" schools, and they are easy to get into. Your kid could likely get in from out-of-state without too much trouble. But, yes, it'll cost you a lot more.
Here's the deal. UVA and W&M are both considered better schools in most areas than UMD, and GMU and JMU are a cut of two above a UMBC or a Towson. And there's also Virginia Tech, of course, as well as other schools in VA as good as UMBC and the other state schools in MD.
So if you are focusing on in-state options, VA is the better choice for most, hands down. Regurgitating stats on admissions rates won't change that an iota.
UMBC =/= Towson. UMBC is an honors college and has a good reputation, on par with GMU certainly, and better than JMU. Towson is probably equivalent to JMU. UMD is catching up, even if it doesn't have the long-standing traditional reputation of UVA or W&M. I wish Maryland had more options, since it's where we live, but I'm not moving to Virginia just for the college choices.
Interesting that you say that, as I always assumed that JMU was a few notches above GMU (more established as a university vs. a commuter school, etc). It seemed that GMU was trying to beef up its reputation in recent years via its IR program.
Anonymous
11/27/2015 15:38
Subject: MD state schools vs. VA state schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Two-thirds of applicants get accepted at George Mason University and James Madison University.
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/gmu-3749
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/jmu-3721
While either school may end up being the right choice for your child, these are not schools to base a house purchase decision upon.
Consider the merits of UVA - VT - William & Mary vs. UM-CP. After that, don't worry about it.
Totally disagree. If your child is interested in any state school, it's well worth it to be living in that state. James Madison and George Mason are both very good schools and I'd be happy if my kids went to either.
I'm the PP and I disagree with this. If your kid has his heart set on JMU then, sure, go ahead and move -- but that seems silly for a school of that caliber. JMU and GMU are not "both very good schools" -- they are both very "OK" schools, and they are easy to get into. Your kid could likely get in from out-of-state without too much trouble. But, yes, it'll cost you a lot more.
Here's the deal. UVA and W&M are both considered better schools in most areas than UMD, and GMU and JMU are a cut of two above a UMBC or a Towson. And there's also Virginia Tech, of course, as well as other schools in VA as good as UMBC and the other state schools in MD.
So if you are focusing on in-state options, VA is the better choice for most, hands down. Regurgitating stats on admissions rates won't change that an iota.
UMBC =/= Towson. UMBC is an honors college and has a good reputation, on par with GMU certainly, and better than JMU. Towson is probably equivalent to JMU. UMD is catching up, even if it doesn't have the long-standing traditional reputation of UVA or W&M. I wish Maryland had more options, since it's where we live, but I'm not moving to Virginia just for the college choices.
No, it really doesn't. UMBC has a reputation similar to GMU in the 70s and inferior to both GMU and JMU today. I'm not sure why you'd suggest otherwise, other than perhaps a personal connection to UMBC. It's a commuter school in a suburb of a declining city.
Anonymous
11/27/2015 15:12
Subject: MD state schools vs. VA state schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Two-thirds of applicants get accepted at George Mason University and James Madison University.
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/gmu-3749
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/jmu-3721
While either school may end up being the right choice for your child, these are not schools to base a house purchase decision upon.
Consider the merits of UVA - VT - William & Mary vs. UM-CP. After that, don't worry about it.
Totally disagree. If your child is interested in any state school, it's well worth it to be living in that state. James Madison and George Mason are both very good schools and I'd be happy if my kids went to either.
I'm the PP and I disagree with this. If your kid has his heart set on JMU then, sure, go ahead and move -- but that seems silly for a school of that caliber. JMU and GMU are not "both very good schools" -- they are both very "OK" schools, and they are easy to get into. Your kid could likely get in from out-of-state without too much trouble. But, yes, it'll cost you a lot more.
Moving isn't exactly a cost free process either. For a 500K house, you're looking at 30K+ in sales/loan costs. You then have to factor in the moving costs and then all of the costs that crop up when you have a new house.
If you have multiple kids it might make sense; for one kid? Not so much.
Anonymous
11/27/2015 11:31
Subject: Re:MD state schools vs. VA state schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you are going to make your child attend a VA state school, then perhaps the move to VA would pay off. I work with quite a few VA residents who told their children that they needed to choose an in-state school, period. However, DH and I wanted to give our children the option of attending whatever school they wanted to, and didn't want incur all of the costs to make a move to VA, only to have our kids strongly desire to attend school in another state.
Ultimately, our kids chose to attend school in Maryland. We are very happy with the education and opportunities both of their schools (UMD and UMBC) have provided. If they had both chosen VT or JMU, which they each were accepted to, we would have analyzed a move to VA.
You would not have been able to get instate tuition once you child was accepted as an out of state student.
PP yes I believe we would have, after living in VA for a year and establishing residency. Not for all four years, though, for sure.
No,once accepted as an out of state student, the student remains an out of state student.
You are incorrect. You can re-classify as an in-state student if you meet the requirements. "Dependent students whose parent(s) move to Virginia and establish domicile for a period of one full year may qualify." https://www.jmu.edu/ubo/residency.shtml
Anonymous
11/26/2015 19:33
Subject: Re:MD state schools vs. VA state schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you are going to make your child attend a VA state school, then perhaps the move to VA would pay off. I work with quite a few VA residents who told their children that they needed to choose an in-state school, period. However, DH and I wanted to give our children the option of attending whatever school they wanted to, and didn't want incur all of the costs to make a move to VA, only to have our kids strongly desire to attend school in another state.
Ultimately, our kids chose to attend school in Maryland. We are very happy with the education and opportunities both of their schools (UMD and UMBC) have provided. If they had both chosen VT or JMU, which they each were accepted to, we would have analyzed a move to VA.
You would not have been able to get instate tuition once you child was accepted as an out of state student.
PP yes I believe we would have, after living in VA for a year and establishing residency. Not for all four years, though, for sure.
No,once accepted as an out of state student, the student remains an out of state student.
Anonymous
11/26/2015 12:35
Subject: MD state schools vs. VA state schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Two-thirds of applicants get accepted at George Mason University and James Madison University.
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/gmu-3749
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/jmu-3721
While either school may end up being the right choice for your child, these are not schools to base a house purchase decision upon.
Consider the merits of UVA - VT - William & Mary vs. UM-CP. After that, don't worry about it.
Totally disagree. If your child is interested in any state school, it's well worth it to be living in that state. James Madison and George Mason are both very good schools and I'd be happy if my kids went to either.
I'm the PP and I disagree with this. If your kid has his heart set on JMU then, sure, go ahead and move -- but that seems silly for a school of that caliber. JMU and GMU are not "both very good schools" -- they are both very "OK" schools, and they are easy to get into. Your kid could likely get in from out-of-state without too much trouble. But, yes, it'll cost you a lot more.
Here's the deal. UVA and W&M are both considered better schools in most areas than UMD, and GMU and JMU are a cut of two above a UMBC or a Towson. And there's also Virginia Tech, of course, as well as other schools in VA as good as UMBC and the other state schools in MD.
So if you are focusing on in-state options, VA is the better choice for most, hands down. Regurgitating stats on admissions rates won't change that an iota.
UMBC =/= Towson. UMBC is an honors college and has a good reputation, on par with GMU certainly, and better than JMU. Towson is probably equivalent to JMU. UMD is catching up, even if it doesn't have the long-standing traditional reputation of UVA or W&M. I wish Maryland had more options, since it's where we live, but I'm not moving to Virginia just for the college choices.
Anonymous
11/26/2015 10:56
Subject: MD state schools vs. VA state schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Two-thirds of applicants get accepted at George Mason University and James Madison University.
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/gmu-3749
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/jmu-3721
While either school may end up being the right choice for your child, these are not schools to base a house purchase decision upon.
Consider the merits of UVA - VT - William & Mary vs. UM-CP. After that, don't worry about it.
Totally disagree. If your child is interested in any state school, it's well worth it to be living in that state. James Madison and George Mason are both very good schools and I'd be happy if my kids went to either.
I'm the PP and I disagree with this. If your kid has his heart set on JMU then, sure, go ahead and move -- but that seems silly for a school of that caliber. JMU and GMU are not "both very good schools" -- they are both very "OK" schools, and they are easy to get into. Your kid could likely get in from out-of-state without too much trouble. But, yes, it'll cost you a lot more.
Here's the deal. UVA and W&M are both considered better schools in most areas than UMD, and GMU and JMU are a cut of two above a UMBC or a Towson. And there's also Virginia Tech, of course, as well as other schools in VA as good as UMBC and the other state schools in MD.
So if you are focusing on in-state options, VA is the better choice for most, hands down. Regurgitating stats on admissions rates won't change that an iota.
Anonymous
11/26/2015 09:44
Subject: Re:MD state schools vs. VA state schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you are going to make your child attend a VA state school, then perhaps the move to VA would pay off. I work with quite a few VA residents who told their children that they needed to choose an in-state school, period. However, DH and I wanted to give our children the option of attending whatever school they wanted to, and didn't want incur all of the costs to make a move to VA, only to have our kids strongly desire to attend school in another state.
Ultimately, our kids chose to attend school in Maryland. We are very happy with the education and opportunities both of their schools (UMD and UMBC) have provided. If they had both chosen VT or JMU, which they each were accepted to, we would have analyzed a move to VA.
You would not have been able to get instate tuition once you child was accepted as an out of state student.
PP yes I believe we would have, after living in VA for a year and establishing residency. Not for all four years, though, for sure.
Anonymous
11/26/2015 09:34
Subject: MD state schools vs. VA state schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Two-thirds of applicants get accepted at George Mason University and James Madison University.
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/gmu-3749
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/jmu-3721
While either school may end up being the right choice for your child, these are not schools to base a house purchase decision upon.
Consider the merits of UVA - VT - William & Mary vs. UM-CP. After that, don't worry about it.
Totally disagree. If your child is interested in any state school, it's well worth it to be living in that state. James Madison and George Mason are both very good schools and I'd be happy if my kids went to either.
I'm the PP and I disagree with this. If your kid has his heart set on JMU then, sure, go ahead and move -- but that seems silly for a school of that caliber. JMU and GMU are not "both very good schools" -- they are both very "OK" schools, and they are easy to get into. Your kid could likely get in from out-of-state without too much trouble. But, yes, it'll cost you a lot more.
Anonymous
11/26/2015 08:11
Subject: Re:MD state schools vs. VA state schools
Anonymous wrote:If you are going to make your child attend a VA state school, then perhaps the move to VA would pay off. I work with quite a few VA residents who told their children that they needed to choose an in-state school, period. However, DH and I wanted to give our children the option of attending whatever school they wanted to, and didn't want incur all of the costs to make a move to VA, only to have our kids strongly desire to attend school in another state.
Ultimately, our kids chose to attend school in Maryland. We are very happy with the education and opportunities both of their schools (UMD and UMBC) have provided. If they had both chosen VT or JMU, which they each were accepted to, we would have analyzed a move to VA.
You would not have been able to get instate tuition once you child was accepted as an out of state student.
Anonymous
11/26/2015 02:02
Subject: Re:MD state schools vs. VA state schools
If you are going to make your child attend a VA state school, then perhaps the move to VA would pay off. I work with quite a few VA residents who told their children that they needed to choose an in-state school, period. However, DH and I wanted to give our children the option of attending whatever school they wanted to, and didn't want incur all of the costs to make a move to VA, only to have our kids strongly desire to attend school in another state.
Ultimately, our kids chose to attend school in Maryland. We are very happy with the education and opportunities both of their schools (UMD and UMBC) have provided. If they had both chosen VT or JMU, which they each were accepted to, we would have analyzed a move to VA.
Ultimately, our kids chose to attend school in Maryland. We are very happy with the education and opportunities both of their schools (UMD and UMBC) have provided. If they had both chosen VT or JMU, which they each were accepted to, we would have analyzed a move to VA.
Anonymous
11/26/2015 00:03
Subject: MD state schools vs. VA state schools
Anonymous wrote:Two-thirds of applicants get accepted at George Mason University and James Madison University.
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/gmu-3749
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/jmu-3721
While either school may end up being the right choice for your child, these are not schools to base a house purchase decision upon.
Consider the merits of UVA - VT - William & Mary vs. UM-CP. After that, don't worry about it.
Totally disagree. If your child is interested in any state school, it's well worth it to be living in that state. James Madison and George Mason are both very good schools and I'd be happy if my kids went to either.
Anonymous
11/25/2015 12:35
Subject: MD state schools vs. VA state schools
Two-thirds of applicants get accepted at George Mason University and James Madison University.
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/gmu-3749
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/jmu-3721
While either school may end up being the right choice for your child, these are not schools to base a house purchase decision upon.
Consider the merits of UVA - VT - William & Mary vs. UM-CP. After that, don't worry about it.
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/gmu-3749
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/jmu-3721
While either school may end up being the right choice for your child, these are not schools to base a house purchase decision upon.
Consider the merits of UVA - VT - William & Mary vs. UM-CP. After that, don't worry about it.