Anonymous wrote:When I think of the suffering people who get a raw deal from American life, Yale students are always at the top of my list.

LOL.

When you think of it, the biggest costume was that pampered black girl dressing up as Angela Davis for Halloween and shoutin' all that shit at her professor. In two years she'll be applying to Harvard Law or trying to get an interview with Goldman Sachs.

Anonymous wrote:While I don't agree with the student's approach using profanity and yelling, I find it amusing at the numerous comments about how we as a civil society don't do this type of behavior which is total hogwash. Regardless of her behavior, she is certainly NOT the first and only college student to exhibit boorish behavior and, for the record I agree with her premise, not the presentation.

Some of you need to pick up history books about campus unrest. I would be interested how you categorize those types of confrontation.

I think her premise (i.e., that an academic fellow or master at Yale should step down because he refused to condemn other Yale students in stronger language) is weak, but that her behavior (loud, obscene and threatening) was entirely uinacceptable and, at a minimum, warranted suspended her or putting her on probation.

I am familiar with the history of campus unrest, and it largely had to do with macro-aggressions (e.g., opposition to the Vietnam War), not micro-aggressions (I'm feeling butthurt because some of my fellow students are kind of jerky), and even then students who engaged in protests and sit-ins faced consequences - which they often welcomed, because they were deeply committed to what they were doing, not silly drama queens who expect to be allowed to pitch fits and curse out white male administrators without any consequences.

Good thing those crybabies signed a petition. Their names are on the internet for all eternity. Employers take note.

http://downatyale.com/post.php?id=430

When I think of the suffering people who get a raw deal from American life, Yale students are always at the top of my list.

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Anonymous wrote:Yelling profanity is trigger for me since I suffered emotional and verbal abuse my entire childhood. The student should be expelled for violating my safe space.

And for some, having seen people dressed in outfits with swastikas and faces painted black with hugely exaggerated white lips is abuse and terrifying.

They share your pain and appreciate how you would have empathy towards actions that further exacerbate emotional upheaval. Any actions that would violate their safe space should be grounds for expulsion. I agree with you.

Yet no one claimed that anyone was dressing up in these "costumes." The mere fact that they were not expressly prohibited and that discussion among students was suggested as a mature approach was enough to "trigger" such outrage and angst. Have we now reached a point where the stress of something that has not occurred is enough to trigger disrespect, emotional upheaval and boorish behavior? How are these students going to handle the realities of life if they fall apart at the mere possibility of offense?

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Anonymous wrote:Yelling profanity is trigger for me since I suffered emotional and verbal abuse my entire childhood. The student should be expelled for violating my safe space.

And for some, having seen people dressed in outfits with swastikas and faces painted black with hugely exaggerated white lips is abuse and terrifying.

They share your pain and appreciate how you would have empathy towards actions that further exacerbate emotional upheaval. Any actions that would violate their safe space should be grounds for expulsion. I agree with you.

Yet no one claimed that anyone was dressing up in these "costumes." The mere fact that they were not expressly prohibited and that discussion among students was suggested as a mature approach was enough to "trigger" such outrage and angst. Have we now reached a point where the stress of something that has not occurred is enough to trigger disrespect, emotional upheaval and boorish behavior? How are these students going to handle the realities of life if they fall apart at the mere possibility of offense?

Anonymous wrote:Yelling profanity is trigger for me since I suffered emotional and verbal abuse my entire childhood. The student should be expelled for violating my safe space.

And for some, having seen people dressed in outfits with swastikas and faces painted black with hugely exaggerated white lips is abuse and terrifying.

They share your pain and appreciate how you would have empathy towards actions that further exacerbate emotional upheaval. Any actions that would violate their safe space should be grounds for expulsion. I agree with you.

Anonymous wrote:Yelling profanity is trigger for me since I suffered emotional and verbal abuse my entire childhood. The student should be expelled for violating my safe space.

This, in spades.

Yelling profanity is trigger for me since I suffered emotional and verbal abuse my entire childhood. The student should be expelled for violating my safe space.

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Anonymous wrote:Gotta a love a post that supports free speech by urging the expulsion of students who exercise it!

This is not about free speech. It is about respect. If you cannot be in an academic environment without swearing and threatening the staff, then you do not belong there.

I think you mistake liberty for license.

I absolutely agree. The way she screamed at that professor, and the things she said to him, were unacceptable. In a civil society, we don't do that. How about a meeting with him to air her grievances instead? Or is it the attention she was after?

In a civil society we don't do that? Are you serious? This happens every day in the workplace, on TV political debates, at the checkout in a grocery store, in a restaurant because you didn't like the service, on DCUM where it goes way past uncivil and vile.

I am not sure why you think that student's bad behavior is the face of uncivil behavior. Turn on your TV sometimes or just look around you. I guarantee you will find far more contemptible behavior than the loud, boorish tone of that student.

While I don't agree with the student's approach using profanity and yelling, I find it amusing at the numerous comments about how we as a civil society don't do this type of behavior which is total hogwash. Regardless of her behavior, she is certainly NOT the first and only college student to exhibit boorish behavior and, for the record I agree with her premise, not the presentation.

Some of you need to pick up history books about campus unrest. I would be interested how you categorize those types of confrontation.

Not only was she yelling aggressively and profanely, she let her backpack slip from her shoulders and leaned/moved in toward him. If a professor or administrator had done that to a student, it would be deemed aggressive (and rightly so) and he/she would be terminated. Her aggressive actions should get her butt tossed from the school.

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Anonymous wrote:Gotta a love a post that supports free speech by urging the expulsion of students who exercise it!

This is not about free speech. It is about respect. If you cannot be in an academic environment without swearing and threatening the staff, then you do not belong there.

I think you mistake liberty for license.

I absolutely agree. The way she screamed at that professor, and the things she said to him, were unacceptable. In a civil society, we don't do that. How about a meeting with him to air her grievances instead? Or is it the attention she was after?

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Anonymous wrote:Gotta a love a post that supports free speech by urging the expulsion of students who exercise it!

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That was my thought as well.

Really? You'd have to be pretty stupid not to know that these students attempt to chill free speech with loud voices and obscene language. They have no interest in exchanging ideas, only yelling at professors who don't do enough to make them feel like Yale is a "safe place" where no one will upset them by expressing themselves in "inappropriate" ways.

The girl was yelling "shut up." She wasn't interested in an open exchange of ideas, free speech or even respect. She was entirely out of line.

She was yelling "Shut the F - up" and complaining that people would leave Yale if the university did not impose censorship. Yale should tell them Godspeed as they show them the door.