Anonymous
Post 11/01/2015 20:33     Subject: Recommends SLACs for my son

Anonymous wrote:Carleton does not offer merit aid. If he likes colder weather consider Luther, St Olaf and Grinnell. Friends of ours son got a nice merit package at St Marys on the Eastern Shore. There's a zillion schools, college confidential will filter to show schools where more merit aid is likely.


St. Mary's College of Maryland is NOT on the Eastern Shore.
OP. this school could be an excellent choice for your son. Please check it out. Academically it offers its students so many great SLAC options at public tuition.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2015 20:32     Subject: Recommends SLACs for my son

I would not "apply down" just for the sake of attending a LAC.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2015 19:42     Subject: Recommends SLACs for my son

Anonymous wrote:We're in the same boat as you, OP, only our DS is a junior. We are searching for SLACS that offer merit aid:

None of the NESCAC schools offer merit aid, so if you don't qualify for FA, you're out of luck. Haverford, Swarthmore don't offer merit aid either.

If you're in VA, William and Mary would work. In MD, St. Mary's College of Maryland is a good choice. Both are good schools.

I suggest Dickinson, Dennison, Kenyon, Oberlin, The College of Wooster, St. Olaf's, Knox College, Kalamazoo College, Earlham, Antioch, Ursinus, Eckerd, Hampshire, Goucher, Clark, Allegheny, Tulane, Roanoke, Goucher, Drew, Hollins, Washington (MD), Muhlenberg, Bennington, Gettysburg, Davidson, University of Richmond, among others.

Here are some links:

US News "Most Students Receiving Merit Aid"
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/most-merit-aid

New York Times list of merit aid from 2012
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/07/08/education/edlife/8edlife_chart.html?_r=0


College Atlas (whatever that is) merit aid list:
http://www.collegeatlas.org/merit-aid-colleges.html

DIY College Rankings (some website) merit aid list:
http://diycollegerankings.com/35-best-bets-college-merit-aid/8921/

Money Magazine's merit aid list:
https://best-colleges.time.com/money/more-rankings/the-25-best-private-colleges-for-merit-aid#/list

Our experience with DD#1 is that merit aid is all over the place. It's unpredictable. DD got a large grant from a school she never visited and wasn't even that interested in, and she got nothing from schools she pestered and made a huge effort to visit and communicate with. Both schools were equal on Naviance. She also got wait-listed at schools she showed no iterest in, but were way below her stats -- a big surprise! She got accepted at some NESCAC schools, but no FA or merit aid at all. She chose a school we can afford, and she's very happy. Apply widely, and early! Best of luck to you!


I think this is good advice. In order to get merit aid you need to "apply down". That way your kid gets money and a less highly ranked school gets a boost from your high-achiever's stats. Davidson and Oberlin would have to come off the list though. They are highly ranked schools.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2015 19:38     Subject: Recommends SLACs for my son

I know this isn't for everyone, but I'll throw it out there because of some things OP has said--Deep Springs College.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2015 14:30     Subject: Re:Recommends SLACs for my son

Male and the ACT score are going to be useful to SLACs. Usually their applicant pools are female heavy. Ohio Wesleyan and McDaniel would work. Denison seems less geeky than this profile. Seems like he's more like Kenyon profile but they are likely more expensive. Grove City College if conservative and Christian. Catholic U might fit too.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2015 13:28     Subject: Recommends SLACs for my son

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are in a situation where you need merit aid, you may want to encourage your son to pursue a more employable degree.

+1


This comment reveals your ignorance on this topic. Generally speaking, families who are seeking merit aid are doing so because they make too much money not because they make too little. If this family were lower income, they'd be looking at schools that are generous with *financial* aid--awarded on the basis of financial need--not merit aid. Indeed, OP herself has indicated that the family makes a very comfortable income, but not enough that they feel they can afford to spend $250k on college.


NP here, and tying this tangent to the thread. Yes, OP makes too much for financial aid, but obviously they need some aid. Plus I think there was a younger sibling mentioned. Is there a plan for how DS will use his history or philosophy major? That's important -- there might need to be grad school in the future. With limited funds and a vague career path (and I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that at age 17), but you want to send the kid to a school where he can figure it out in 4 yrs.

So I'd be looking closely at these depts in the schools you consider. What do their graduates go on to do?


http://history.ucdavis.edu/undergraduate/what-can-i-do-as-a-history-major

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/05/why-philosophy-majors-rule_n_4891404.html
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2015 12:15     Subject: Recommends SLACs for my son

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are in a situation where you need merit aid, you may want to encourage your son to pursue a more employable degree.

+1


This comment reveals your ignorance on this topic. Generally speaking, families who are seeking merit aid are doing so because they make too much money not because they make too little. If this family were lower income, they'd be looking at schools that are generous with *financial* aid--awarded on the basis of financial need--not merit aid. Indeed, OP herself has indicated that the family makes a very comfortable income, but not enough that they feel they can afford to spend $250k on college.


NP here, and tying this tangent to the thread. Yes, OP makes too much for financial aid, but obviously they need some aid. Plus I think there was a younger sibling mentioned. Is there a plan for how DS will use his history or philosophy major? That's important -- there might need to be grad school in the future. With limited funds and a vague career path (and I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that at age 17), but you want to send the kid to a school where he can figure it out in 4 yrs.

So I'd be looking closely at these depts in the schools you consider. What do their graduates go on to do?
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2015 12:05     Subject: Re:Recommends SLACs for my son

A pp mentioned Beloit, in Wisconsin. That might work well.


Oh yeah, I know several people who went there in no small part due to receiving merit aid. They seemed to enjoy it.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2015 11:25     Subject: Recommends SLACs for my son

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I suggest Dickinson, Dennison, Kenyon, Oberlin, The College of Wooster, St. Olaf's, Knox College, Kalamazoo College, Earlham, Antioch, Ursinus, Eckerd, Hampshire, Goucher, Clark, Allegheny, Tulane, Roanoke, Goucher, Drew, Hollins, Washington (MD), Muhlenberg, Bennington, Gettysburg, Davidson, University of Richmond, among others.


These are good suggestions given that kid has a 3.38 and requires merit aid.


Would add Washington & Jefferson College (Pittsburgh) to this list. I know you don't want to say the sport, but if it is something unique (squash, water polo etc.) that could be an advantage and you might want to approach the coach at schools you are interested in.


I don't think being on JV sports is recruitable. Most varsity athletes aren't recruitable. And obscure sports aren't JV/varsity sports in MCPS.

I agree with Dickinson, Denison, etc. You won't find merit aid (or possibly even admission) at the top 10 SLACs.


It's not about being "recruitable" in the traditional sense, it's about trying to make a connection with the institution and "prove" that you will be a good addition to the student body for whatever reason, athletics is just one. This is critical for merit aid.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2015 11:19     Subject: Recommends SLACs for my son

Anonymous
Post 11/01/2015 10:44     Subject: Re:Recommends SLACs for my son

For substantial merit aid you should look a notch down from Swarthmore, Haverford, Amherst, etc. and even from Oberlin, Macalister, Davidson, and Kenyon.

For merit aid, I agree with Drew, Knox, College of Wooster, Dennison, Kalmazoo, Earlham, Antioch, Ursinus, Eckerd, Goucher, Clark, Allegheny, Roanoke, Goucher, Mulenberg, Bennington, and Gettysburg. Also perhaps Franklin and Marshall, McDaniel, Rhodes, Whitman, Bard, Centre College, and Furman.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2015 10:32     Subject: Recommends SLACs for my son

Anonymous wrote:Denison gives good merit aid. There is an active Greek life program, but that's not the only social outlet. And central Ohio has cold, snowy winters.


+1

Denison would be a great option for your son.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2015 10:31     Subject: Re:Recommends SLACs for my son

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No idea if they give merit aid, but Tufts would be a good fit.


No. Tufts would eat him alive. Not good for geeky kids, and only social life is frats. Unless it's changed since I was there.


Ha! I believe you, and I am not an alum, but every person I know who went to Tufts is pretty geeky and not into the whole "school spirit" idea.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2015 10:11     Subject: Recommends SLACs for my son

Anonymous wrote:What's wrong with MD publics?


Nothing, unless you want a small, liberal arts college. Then there is only one, St. Mary's.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2015 10:11     Subject: Recommends SLACs for my son

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are in a situation where you need merit aid, you may want to encourage your son to pursue a more employable degree.

+1


This comment reveals your ignorance on this topic. Generally speaking, families who are seeking merit aid are doing so because they make too much money not because they make too little. If this family were lower income, they'd be looking at schools that are generous with *financial* aid--awarded on the basis of financial need--not merit aid. Indeed, OP herself has indicated that the family makes a very comfortable income, but not enough that they feel they can afford to spend $250k on college.