Anonymous
10/13/2017 09:00
Subject: Re:Colleges tell students to ask faculty if their Halloween costumes are offensive or not
Anonymous wrote:My friend who is a geisha actually went as a geisha for Halloween. I like to see people scream cultural appropriation at her. It's reached levels of stupidity. When Japanese people tell these whiners they don't mind and these people are offended on their behalf anyway is plain stupidity.
If you really are this stupid, then you don't need to worry about what is going on at colleges. Try to get your GED first.
Anonymous
10/13/2017 09:00
Subject: Re:Colleges tell students to ask faculty if their Halloween costumes are offensive or not
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
OP here. Who cares which paper it's in? It's not a matter of worrying; it's the fact that so many busybodies thrive on telling others how to live and careers and reputations can be ruined over perceived slights. And the fact that there are countless well paid college administrators being paid to micromanage and police what consenting adults do outside the classroom on their own time. Is this kind of coddling *really* preparing students for the real world? There's a fine line between colleges teaching youth how to be good citizens and the crap we have here where people are all but told what to think.
We're heading down a slippery slope as far as free speech and the nature of "tolerance" in America and the West. Who would have imagined 20-30 years ago that people could make a career out of being offended for other people and printing out leaflets about "appropriate" attire at off campus house parties?
Just some food for thought next time you write Larla's tuition check or bitch about the ballooning coast of education....cause of useless staff like these people at Wesleyan and SUNY.
Evidently plenty of people care about which paper it's in. And with reason, given that some papers have a reasonably good (though not perfect) reputation for reporting facts that are accurate, while other papers don't.
As for people supposedly making a career out of being offended -- people make very good livings off all kinds of things I find ludicrous. Advising companies about how to get federal contracts,[u] for example. Trying to improve the reputations of companies that jack up the prices of generic medications because they can. Life coaching and potty training consulting. I'm not going to get upset about one more ludicrous way to pay the bills.
Can you explain to me why this one is ludicrous? Serious question.
Anonymous
10/13/2017 08:58
Subject: Colleges tell students to ask faculty if their Halloween costumes are offensive or not
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh no, Seinfeld declined to do a campus appearance, and then a college student wrote to tell him that he was wrong! The world is coming to an end!
You're missing the forest for the trees. Try spending 4-7 years in undergrad or grad school with precious little snots who feel they have a right to stick their fingers in their ears and/or ban every word, movie, performance or idea in the world they don't like from their bubble at the expense of others. Then feel free to get back to me about whether higher ed or worse yet, employers, should cater to their kind.
Racist, sexist, and homophobic behavior has long been banned in workplaces. The people who will be out of place and unhirable are your special snowflakes who think being insulting to others is funny. You might want to catch up on about 60 years of law and social change.
Anonymous
10/13/2017 08:55
Subject: Re:Colleges tell students to ask faculty if their Halloween costumes are offensive or not
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Would an article detailing the exact same thing from the New York Times be more legit? Pc culture is absolute nonsense.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/10/31/us/cultural-appropriation-halloween-costumes.html?smid=tw-share&referer=https://t.co/Q4bWszND3O
Yes, an article from the New York Times is more legit.
What does this article say? It says that lots of people are worrying about cultural appropriation. If you don't want to worry about cultural appropriation -- good news! you don't have to! If you want to go in blackface as Kanye West, go right ahead. There will be people who are upset about this, but you don't need to worry about their opinions, because you already know that "PC culture" is nonsense.
OP here. Who cares which paper it's in? It's not a matter of worrying; it's the fact that so many busybodies thrive on telling others how to live and careers and reputations can be ruined over perceived slights. And the fact that there are countless well paid college administrators being paid to micromanage and police what consenting adults do outside the classroom on their own time. Is this kind of coddling *really* preparing students for the real world? There's a fine line between colleges teaching youth how to be good citizens and the crap we have here where people are all but told what to think.
We're heading down a slippery slope as far as free speech and the nature of "tolerance" in America and the West. Who would have imagined 20-30 years ago that people could make a career out of being offended for other people and printing out leaflets about "appropriate" attire at off campus house parties?
Just some food for thought next time you write Larla's tuition check or bitch about the ballooning coast of education....cause of useless staff like these people at Wesleyan and SUNY.
Except...no.
Blackface has always been insulting and unacceptable. Even when your grandparents wore blackface at their Klan rallies, they knew they were being racist and disgusting, and their aim was to hurt African Americans. You know this.
So, the idea that we are on some slippery slope because your shitbag kids want to keep blackface alive or boil Latinos down to stereotypes is bullshit. Society no longer condones your evil behavior and you are not going to single out and denigrate minorities with impunity anymore. Go cry about it. Even better, keep your asshole kids off campus.
Anonymous
10/13/2017 08:51
Subject: Colleges tell students to ask faculty if their Halloween costumes are offensive or not
Anonymous wrote:When will this PC nonsense end? SOO glad I'm not in college anymore. The American university has truly become a graveyard for critical thinking and tolerance in the truest sense of the word. As in tolerant of all speech, not just "approved" speech.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3297067/The-politically-correct-police-Colleges-post-flyers-advising-students-consult-faculty-Halloween-costumes-appropriate-not.html#comments
Another day of looking at it is that trashy, nasty people like you have raised trashy, nasty children who refuse to understand that costumes mocking others' races, cultures, sexualities are not acceptable in civilized society. So, it falls to already busy faculty to do the job you didn't do and teach your overgrown bully kids wrong from right.
Anonymous
10/13/2017 08:32
Subject: Colleges tell students to ask faculty if their Halloween costumes are offensive or not
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Meh. I don't see anything to get all het up about.
So, some colleges are putting out PSAs suggesting students think about the messages they are sending out when they costume for Halloween.
No crime. No punishment. Just a poster asking people to think.
I can't imagine this is any more devious than the signs on the metro asking patrons to leave open certain seats for the disabled.
Yes, the infantilization of college-age students continues.
Que the Trigglypuff video.
Anonymous
11/02/2015 11:51
Subject: Colleges tell students to ask faculty if their Halloween costumes are offensive or not
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When will this PC nonsense end? SOO glad I'm not in college anymore. The American university has truly become a graveyard for critical thinking and tolerance in the truest sense of the word. As in tolerant of all speech, not just "approved" speech.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3297067/The-politically-correct-police-Colleges-post-flyers-advising-students-consult-faculty-Halloween-costumes-appropriate-not.html#comments
Would you allow your ES child to dress as a geisha? Or an Indian? Or, say, a Hassidic Jew?
Serious question. Answer it and then we can have a conversation about "PC"
I would allow my ES child to dress as a geisha or an Indian, yes of course. A Hassidic Jew? No.
Interesting where you draw the line. Why is it unacceptable to portray one ethnicity by accentuating cultural attributes but acceptable to depict another?
Anonymous
11/02/2015 11:45
Subject: Colleges tell students to ask faculty if their Halloween costumes are offensive or not
Anonymous wrote:^^^ I think one of the "previous little snorts" is offended and chiming in.
No, I'm 47, and I haven't been on a campus in decades. I'm just indifferent to people's outrage about other people's offense-taking.
Anonymous
11/02/2015 11:43
Subject: Colleges tell students to ask faculty if their Halloween costumes are offensive or not
^^^ I think one of the "previous little snorts" is offended and chiming in.
Anonymous
11/02/2015 11:32
Subject: Colleges tell students to ask faculty if their Halloween costumes are offensive or not
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh no, Seinfeld declined to do a campus appearance, and then a college student wrote to tell him that he was wrong! The world is coming to an end!
You're missing the forest for the trees. Try spending 4-7 years in undergrad or grad school with precious little snots who feel they have a right to stick their fingers in their ears and/or ban every word, movie, performance or idea in the world they don't like from their bubble at the expense of others. Then feel free to get back to me about whether higher ed or worse yet, employers, should cater to their kind.
If employers don't want to cater to "their kind", then they don't have to -- right? Just as, if Seinfeld doesn't want to appear on campus, he doesn't have to.
Anonymous
11/02/2015 11:30
Subject: Colleges tell students to ask faculty if their Halloween costumes are offensive or not
Anonymous wrote:Oh no, Seinfeld declined to do a campus appearance, and then a college student wrote to tell him that he was wrong! The world is coming to an end!
You're missing the forest for the trees. Try spending 4-7 years in undergrad or grad school with precious little snots who feel they have a right to stick their fingers in their ears and/or ban every word, movie, performance or idea in the world they don't like from their bubble at the expense of others. Then feel free to get back to me about whether higher ed or worse yet, employers, should cater to their kind.
Anonymous
11/02/2015 11:26
Subject: Colleges tell students to ask faculty if their Halloween costumes are offensive or not
Oh no, Seinfeld declined to do a campus appearance, and then a college student wrote to tell him that he was wrong! The world is coming to an end!
Anonymous
11/02/2015 11:23
Subject: Colleges tell students to ask faculty if their Halloween costumes are offensive or not
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The level of censorship and prior restraint at today's colleges is so bad that even Chris Rock and Seinfeld don't tour them any more.
Closing kids' minds to "potentially offensive" speech and ideas is no way to teach them how to live in a free society.
I am wondering what is "even" about "even" Chris Rock and Jerry Seinfeld not doing shows on college campuses.
Seinfeld recently bailed on doing a campus appearance re: fears over unPC crude content. You know, run of the mill 21st century standup. It's comedy for gods sake. If you don't like it find something else to do on Friday night and don't go to the show. Some whiny little Social Justice Warrior at the school then fired off a painfully long winded rebuttal to Seinfeld about what comedy is "supposed" to be about. Seriously, a know nothing kid with a future at Starbucks trying to school one of the richest most popular comedians of all time on what commentary he *should* be discussing and to be more sensitive.
Check out the Atlantic article about the "victimhood culture" phenomenon and you'll see why this is a thing. So many folks out there aka Perpetual Victims who now go into situations with the intention of being offended. Even when they have a choice to change the channel or not attend the show, speaker, event etc.
It's an incredibly stupid social complex and I don't see it going away anytime soon.
Anonymous
11/02/2015 11:15
Subject: Re:Colleges tell students to ask faculty if their Halloween costumes are offensive or not
Anonymous wrote:Isn’t college a place where our teenagers become young adults and learn to think for themselves???
How will these graduates ever survive in the real world if they have to “check in” with a college professor to “get permission?”
Ridiculous.
Yes, so let them do so, please -- instead of telling them that they're doing it wrong.
Anonymous
11/02/2015 11:14
Subject: Colleges tell students to ask faculty if their Halloween costumes are offensive or not
Anonymous wrote:The level of censorship and prior restraint at today's colleges is so bad that even Chris Rock and Seinfeld don't tour them any more.
Closing kids' minds to "potentially offensive" speech and ideas is no way to teach them how to live in a free society.
I am wondering what is "even" about "even" Chris Rock and Jerry Seinfeld not doing shows on college campuses.