Anonymous
Post 10/23/2015 11:35     Subject: What is the future of the Republican Party (serious question)?
I'm not predicting the death of the Republican Party but where is the party going to be in 10 or 15 years given the demographics. The people who go to the GOP convention just don't represent the demographics of the people who live in this country
Anonymous
Post 10/22/2015 22:05     Subject: What is the future of the Republican Party (serious question)?
I have seen the future and its Palin/Perry. Kim Davis will be Secretary of Jesus Affairs. Cheney's corpse will be Secretary of War. Herman Cain will be Secretary of Finance. Ted Nugent will be Secretary of Guns. No need for any other government agencies.
Anonymous
Post 10/22/2015 21:50     Subject: What is the future of the Republican Party (serious question)?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hey I'm a Democrat but don't count them out. They have control of most of the Statehouses that gerrymander districts so they still have the most Congressional seats. Wishful thinking OP. Sorry to say they will still be around. Hopefully, they won't win the WH, but they will win a lot of Congressional seats.


+1

It never ceases to amaze me when people predict the death knell of the Republican party - and I am a liberal.

When Obama became president the Democrats had an almost filibuster proof majority in the senate, a large majority in the House and I think around 30 of the governorships.

By 2010 they had lost seats in the Senate and lost control of the House and a few gubernatorial races. By 2014, the Democrats lost the Senate pretty decisively and the Republicans have the largest majority in the House that they have had in many decades. To top it off they have something like 31 of the governorships. The only significant office the Republicans don't have is the presidency. If the roles had been reversed would Democrats be saying that the party is doomed?

The standard excuse Democrats use is gerrymandering which is true but that applies mainly to the House.


The GOP has nowhere to go but down. The remaining "moderates" will face ever increasingly crazy primary challenges from the right as the old, white, xenophobic and racist assholes continue to die off. Dems will pick up three to four Senate seats in 2016 and keep the White House. GOP House members will have to explain why they accomplished virtually nothing since 2014 but vote time after time to repeal the ACA. They too will face primary challengers who will attack them for being coopted by DC and failing to keep election year promises like repealing the ACA. Throw in the inability to block the Iran deal (remember that hoopla) and gay marriage and Planned Parenthood and we'll some interesting and extremely ugly circular firing squad political races. The times they are a changin.
Anonymous
Post 10/22/2015 21:44     Subject: Re:What is the future of the Republican Party (serious question)?
Anonymous wrote:The GOP is fine as a presidential contender. So no danger of a fascistic right wing nut being elected. Potential danger of a left wing Chavez-like person being elected within the next 20 years, though. The center is gone, folks.


We're already teetering on the brink of a fascist right wing Congress IMHO. We DEFINITELY have a corporatist Congress that only works for wealthy plutocrats, that much cannot even be disputed.
Anonymous
Post 10/22/2015 18:54     Subject: Re:What is the future of the Republican Party (serious question)?
Anonymous wrote:The GOP is fine as a presidential contender. So no danger of a fascistic right wing nut being elected. Potential danger of a left wing Chavez-like person being elected within the next 20 years, though. The center is gone, folks.


^^not fine. Meant "done." Totally done.
Anonymous
Post 10/22/2015 18:54     Subject: Re:What is the future of the Republican Party (serious question)?
The GOP is fine as a presidential contender. So no danger of a fascistic right wing nut being elected. Potential danger of a left wing Chavez-like person being elected within the next 20 years, though. The center is gone, folks.
Anonymous
Post 10/22/2015 13:05     Subject: What is the future of the Republican Party (serious question)?
NO Future for Republicans or Democrats-we will become an Islamic county with Sharia law-Allah is in charge!
Anonymous
Post 10/21/2015 20:44     Subject: What is the future of the Republican Party (serious question)?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hey I'm a Democrat but don't count them out. They have control of most of the Statehouses that gerrymander districts so they still have the most Congressional seats. Wishful thinking OP. Sorry to say they will still be around. Hopefully, they won't win the WH, but they will win a lot of Congressional seats.


But that's not what the OP is getting at as I read it. The question as I read it pertains to the philsophical differences within the party and whether those can be repaired.

All GOPers are NOT the same. There are different factions that are flexing their muscle. Why do think JB is resigning? He cannot get everyone on the same page. THAT is the issue. Not whether they can win seats and such. It is about whether the internal divides can be bridged once the common enemy leaves the WH.


Political scientists call it realignment.
Anonymous
Post 10/21/2015 20:05     Subject: What is the future of the Republican Party (serious question)?
Anonymous wrote:The two strains of conservatism have never gotten along that well -- the reactionary national-front types and genuine fiscal free-market conservatives.

In other words, the sane ones need their own party.


I know, those fiscal free-market lunatics need to GTFO. Meanwhile us sane NF people can curtail immigration a little and not cut the shit out of your grandmother's social security.
Anonymous
Post 10/21/2015 20:00     Subject: Re:What is the future of the Republican Party (serious question)?
Not much of a future in the pres level. Just not enough white voters, to be blunt about it. Will eventually lose its grip on Congress and most states, go through a death rattle, and disappear. Demographics. So the battle will be between liberals and liberals who are a little less liberal. Bye, bye right wing nuts.
Anonymous
Post 10/21/2015 19:23     Subject: Re:What is the future of the Republican Party (serious question)?
So you're arguing that trump is the future of the republican party not bush and the neocons.

Perfect.

Anonymous
Post 10/21/2015 19:17     Subject: What is the future of the Republican Party (serious question)?
Anonymous wrote:[/b]But the social agenda is where the "useful idiots" come into play. These are the people who are motivated to come out and vote against their own economic interests.[b]

No one votes specifically because they Big Corporate Inc. or war. Those are GOP Establishment elite priorities. In fact, most GOP voters are against any future war with Iran (or even isolationist) and most believe that corporations already have too much influence at the expense of labor and small businesses.


So true.

I think we do see people starting to come out (for Trump mostly) against "big corp inc" in the GOP. Which is ironic, given their leader. I don't think Trump has made any comments about overturning Citizens United (that's too specific for him), but he has called other candidates "puppets" asking for money from corporate interests.
Anonymous
Post 10/21/2015 19:10     Subject: Re:What is the future of the Republican Party (serious question)?
The republican will be a regional party in flyover states.

Anonymous
Post 10/21/2015 16:22     Subject: What is the future of the Republican Party (serious question)?
But the social agenda is where the "useful idiots" come into play. These are the people who are motivated to come out and vote against their own economic interests.

No one votes specifically because they Big Corporate Inc. or war. Those are GOP Establishment elite priorities. In fact, most GOP voters are against any future war with Iran (or even isolationist) and most believe that corporations already have too much influence at the expense of labor and small businesses.
Anonymous
Post 10/21/2015 16:06     Subject: What is the future of the Republican Party (serious question)?
Anonymous wrote:The party has a war to win. The war is to jettison the social agenda and return to a party of limited government. The convenient overlap between social conservatism, limited government, and interventionist foreign policy has ended. Of the three, the social conservatism is the one which loses them the most long term voters.


So you are saying that the GOP has to come together to decide which one of those 3 prongs to jettison - social agenda is your pick. Good point. But given the current philosophical demographics of the part, how does that get done?