And what's at issue here is whether Ben R makes you disgusted with the team. It strikes me that people should be even more disgusted with him because he was able to buy his way out.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ben R was never convicted of anything was he? Maybe it was determined that there was no criminal wrong doing on his part?
I honestly have not followed that story - At All. But of course rape is never, ever acceptable and it is always a crime. Although an accusation is not the same thing as a conviction. People forget that.
The accusers agreed to a monetary settlement instead of pressing charges a'la Kobe Bryant.
Oh, you can pay money to get out of criminal charges? That is good to know!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ben R was never convicted of anything was he? Maybe it was determined that there was no criminal wrong doing on his part?
I honestly have not followed that story - At All. But of course rape is never, ever acceptable and it is always a crime. Although an accusation is not the same thing as a conviction. People forget that.
The accusers agreed to a monetary settlement instead of pressing charges a'la Kobe Bryant.
Oh, you can pay money to get out of criminal charges? That is good to know!
Okay, Ben was never convicted of anything but Vick was and Vick was punished. Ben, who apparently has behaved badly and, if some are right, broken the law but never been caught - he's okay?Anonymous wrote:Ben R was never convicted of anything was he? Maybe it was determined that there was no criminal wrong doing on his part?
I honestly have not followed that story - At All. But of course rape is never, ever acceptable and it is always a crime. Although an accusation is not the same thing as a conviction. People forget that.
Oh my god. The pitbull hater is back. Can't you find a different hobby?Anonymous wrote:There was outrage and now unfortunately the pitbull no euthanasia movement has affected the general public. Many are clueless and others have some degree of lion tamer complex.
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/article/Albuquerque-reforms-shelter-policy-for-dogs-6532902.php
http://www.gazettenet.com/news/townbytown/amherst/12773890-95/shutesbury-select-board-votes-unanimously-to-euthanize-dangerous-dog
http://www.vaildaily.com/news/18420514-113/breckenridge-police-respond-to-dog-attack-near-elementary
Not all of the rescued dogs from Vick's disgusting kennel became fine family pets.
Did anyone reading these boards ever see a dog attack on a person or animal? One comment has the term the "new normal" for dogs for basic expectations:
https://mountainx.com/opinion/letter-writer-pit-bulls-should-be-allowed-to-go-extinct/
Vick and his pitbull breed involvement have created another problem. New normal is leash aggression, perplexing attacks /deaths when instinct kicks in...
Pit people might not lie this but the link below details how nice shelter dogs are used as bait dogs in behavior assessment for the intakes:
http://www.animals24-7.org/2015/09/30/what-is-the-austin-animal-center-doing-to-dogs-in-the-name-of-play/
So they use a nice dog and it gets traumatized.
Yes, we should move on. He's paid his debt to society, as they say. Now it's time for us to move on.Anonymous wrote:Having grown up a hardcore Steelers fan, I now want to vomit every time I see that dog torturer. Not that Big Ben was a peach, but Vick was convicted. Just bc he served his time we should all move on?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh please.
I'm a Philadelphian and there was plenty outrage when Vick joined the Eagles. He did his time, more time than people do for committing crimes against human beings. I don't like the guy but I wasn't going to turn my back on my football team for giving him a second chance after serving his given time.
I say this as the proud human mom to an adorable Pit rescue. Move on.
I'm ok with putting my heart and morals before my football team.
Where are your heart and morals when known (even if they aren't convicted) rapist and abusers take the field? Right there with the rest of the fans I'm sure.
Wtf I'm upset about the dogs, leave me alone already. Jesus.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Adrian Peterson should have done time but apparently it is ok to abuse your kid but not a dog.
I don't think that is a fair comparison. Vick tortured animals. I didn't follow the Peterson case closely but wasn't it spanking with a switch, which wasn't illegal or something? I just remember a lot of people chiming into that debate and saying that's how they were raised too etc.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh please.
I'm a Philadelphian and there was plenty outrage when Vick joined the Eagles. He did his time, more time than people do for committing crimes against human beings. I don't like the guy but I wasn't going to turn my back on my football team for giving him a second chance after serving his given time.
I say this as the proud human mom to an adorable Pit rescue. Move on.
I'm ok with putting my heart and morals before my football team.
Where are your heart and morals when known (even if they aren't convicted) rapist and abusers take the field? Right there with the rest of the fans I'm sure.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh please.
I'm a Philadelphian and there was plenty outrage when Vick joined the Eagles. He did his time, more time than people do for committing crimes against human beings. I don't like the guy but I wasn't going to turn my back on my football team for giving him a second chance after serving his given time.
I say this as the proud human mom to an adorable Pit rescue. Move on.
I'm ok with putting my heart and morals before my football team.
Anonymous wrote:Adrian Peterson should have done time but apparently it is ok to abuse your kid but not a dog.
Anonymous wrote:Oh please.
I'm a Philadelphian and there was plenty outrage when Vick joined the Eagles. He did his time, more time than people do for committing crimes against human beings. I don't like the guy but I wasn't going to turn my back on my football team for giving him a second chance after serving his given time.
I say this as the proud human mom to an adorable Pit rescue. Move on.
Anonymous wrote:Oh please.
I'm a Philadelphian and there was plenty outrage when Vick joined the Eagles. He did his time, more time than people do for committing crimes against human beings. I don't like the guy but I wasn't going to turn my back on my football team for giving him a second chance after serving his given time.
I say this as the proud human mom to an adorable Pit rescue. Move on.