Anonymous wrote:I'm really conflicted about this and similar stories. Obviously, this behavior is barbaric and abhorrent - but not really unexpected. I wish American humanitarian workers had a more realistic understanding of the dangers that they may face in the areas that they go to. If they still choose to go to these places, then they and we have to be prepared to deal with the consequences - which should not include putting other people's lives in danger to save them.

Didn't help that someone from the Obama Administration gave her name up on TV. She was killed a couple days after that.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well they exist now and are everybody's problem. There is no tolerating or coexisting with their savagery, and that is shown by their own unilateral mass murdering, torturing, enslaving terms. Mohammed destroyed the advanced civilizations he took over and these folks are working from his original recipe.

We've indulged ourselves critiquing western civ long enough. I'll take some civ over no civ any day.

Obama - the Teflon president. During election, there were Arab women in the Pakistani airport handing out fliers saying " A vote for Obama is a vote against the Great Satan".

Great, you let Pakistani women in an airport tell you what to think about your president.

Don't you find it interesting that he was so supported there?

I wish human beings would never become savages.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know one of the lawyers who directly worked so tirelessly to free the savage from Guantanamo.

You think she's still pleased with her "success"?

OR... maybe being locked away in Guantanamo is one of the factors that helped lead him to become the insane, evil radical he is?

This is a pattern I have read about other Islamic radicals- even if they are not so extreme when they enter prison, the conditions they endure solidifies their violent views.

The foundation for their rage is laid in childhood.

WTF? We CREATED this entire nightmare. We invaded Iraq, removed all the Baathists, left a power vacuum, supported Malicki who is a huge sectarian scumball, and basically everything we did laid the groundwork for ISIS. If Al Baghdadi had been dead or imprisoned, some other psycho would be doing all of this instead. Don't you know ISIS is recruiting all the time?

This is OUR fault, and not for letting people out of Guantanamo. Torturing people and putting people in Guantanamo was just shitting on our own values as Americans, which is basically the icing on the cake in this whole situation.

I wish we had never, ever gone into Iraq.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well they exist now and are everybody's problem. There is no tolerating or coexisting with their savagery, and that is shown by their own unilateral mass murdering, torturing, enslaving terms. Mohammed destroyed the advanced civilizations he took over and these folks are working from his original recipe.

We've indulged ourselves critiquing western civ long enough. I'll take some civ over no civ any day.

Obama - the Teflon president. During election, there were Arab women in the Pakistani airport handing out fliers saying " A vote for Obama is a vote against the Great Satan".

Great, you let Pakistani women in an airport tell you what to think about your president.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi is the animal who raped her - he spent time in Guantanamo. So much for that prison holding a bunch of sheepherders

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/14/isis-leader-see-you-in-new-york.html

http://abcnews.go.com/International/isis-leader-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-sexually-abused/story?id=33085923

Uh, hate to burst your bubble and the entire premise of your post, but he was not in Gitmo. He was detained in Iraq and released in 2004.

Forgive me. Obama shut down that camp in Iraq - he was not exactly a prisoner of another country - he was our prisoner of war.

In 2004?? Bush let this guy go, five years before Obama was inaugurated. What the hell kind of point are you making?

Date is in dispute my friend.

Oh, well then you'll have to tell the CIA. And also you will need to let me know who invented a time machine because Islamic State was discussed in the press years before 2009. My friend. For example: https://web.archive.org/web/20110524071632/http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article1782088.ece

And I guess you'll have to explain how Islamic State was not founded out of Al Qaeda in Iraq . Oh and the fact that they DECLARED THE CREATION OF ISI in 2006 http://www.ft.com/cms/s/e239159e-5c6a-11db-9e7e-0000779e2340.html

Gee here they are in 2007 announcing their cabinet https://web.archive.org/web/20070928061225/http://www.siteinstitute.org/bin/articles.cgi?ID=publications274907&Category=publications&Subcategory=0


But hey, I guess it's in dispute. And please find me that guy who used a time machine to plant these false stories in old newspapers.

I'm really conflicted about this and similar stories. Obviously, this behavior is barbaric and abhorrent - but not really unexpected. I wish American humanitarian workers had a more realistic understanding of the dangers that they may face in the areas that they go to. If they still choose to go to these places, then they and we have to be prepared to deal with the consequences - which should not include putting other people's lives in danger to save them.

Anonymous wrote:Well they exist now and are everybody's problem. There is no tolerating or coexisting with their savagery, and that is shown by their own unilateral mass murdering, torturing, enslaving terms. Mohammed destroyed the advanced civilizations he took over and these folks are working from his original recipe.

We've indulged ourselves critiquing western civ long enough. I'll take some civ over no civ any day.

Obama - the Teflon president. During election, there were Arab women in the Pakistani airport handing out fliers saying " A vote for Obama is a vote against the Great Satan".

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi is the animal who raped her - he spent time in Guantanamo. So much for that prison holding a bunch of sheepherders

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/14/isis-leader-see-you-in-new-york.html

http://abcnews.go.com/International/isis-leader-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-sexually-abused/story?id=33085923

Uh, hate to burst your bubble and the entire premise of your post, but he was not in Gitmo. He was detained in Iraq and released in 2004.

Forgive me. Obama shut down that camp in Iraq - he was not exactly a prisoner of another country - he was our prisoner of war.

In 2004?? Bush let this guy go, five years before Obama was inaugurated. What the hell kind of point are you making?

Date is in dispute my friend.

Well they exist now and are everybody's problem. There is no tolerating or coexisting with their savagery, and that is shown by their own unilateral mass murdering, torturing, enslaving terms. Mohammed destroyed the advanced civilizations he took over and these folks are working from his original recipe.

We've indulged ourselves critiquing western civ long enough. I'll take some civ over no civ any day.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know one of the lawyers who directly worked so tirelessly to free the savage from Guantanamo.

You think she's still pleased with her "success"?

OR... maybe being locked away in Guantanamo is one of the factors that helped lead him to become the insane, evil radical he is?

This is a pattern I have read about other Islamic radicals- even if they are not so extreme when they enter prison, the conditions they endure solidifies their violent views.

Of course. It's ALWAYS our fault

Isis did not exist before the Iraq war. It was invented becaus of the war.

And for the second time he was not locked up in gizmo. He was briefly detained by the army in Iraq and released in 2004.

There is dispute about the date. 2009 is more likely as boots on the ground place it there. Obama created ISIS by arming the 'moderate' Syrian rebels and thus putting weapons right in the hands of ISIS:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/05/19/new_documents_cia__state_dept_knew_weapons_were_moving_from_benghazi_libya_to_isis_in_syria_via_turkey.html

Haha, you are on the loony train. ISIS was initially created as Al Qaeda in Iraq. There is no dispute that this was years before Obama took office.

Let's not exaggerate and let's get the facts. The roots of ISI was set in October of 2006. That's ISI, not ISIS. After two of the leaders were killed at different times there were changes that occurred and ISIS was formed in 2010 in Syria. No doubt that al-Qaeda has been an integral part of both but this evolution with various groups as a part of it makes your declaration wrong.

Mr. Obama was just as wrong as Bush using terms like “on the run,” “decimated” and “on their heels” Well, they have been hit but they have returned to a strength that is rather frightening and have taken areas of Iraq and taken control of weapons from the Iraqi's...some of which were just handed to them. So, under Mr. Obama's watch they have gone from weakened to a serious threat to the whole region.

Anonymous wrote:Rapists or men trying to take away a woman's right to make decisions about her own body, are really much the same to me. The manifestation is different, but they're rooted similarly.

It's not about sex. It's not about "life." It's about power and control.

Did you really just compare pro life politicians to ISIS? Your Western privilege is showing, and it's embarrassing.

PS this isn't even an abortion thread. Obsessed much?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know one of the lawyers who directly worked so tirelessly to free the savage from Guantanamo.

You think she's still pleased with her "success"?

I'm all for charging alleged terrorists and giving them a trial, and if convicted, swiftly punishing them. That would be great.

But I find it deeply disturbing that you have such little understanding of why 'Guantanamo' exists in the first place. You can't have much respect for justice if you support such a concept. As an American, that precedent is pretty damn disturbing.

Prisoners of war. Different rules.

There are rules for prisoners of war. We're not following them. We should be, though.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know one of the lawyers who directly worked so tirelessly to free the savage from Guantanamo.

You think she's still pleased with her "success"?

OR... maybe being locked away in Guantanamo is one of the factors that helped lead him to become the insane, evil radical he is?

This is a pattern I have read about other Islamic radicals- even if they are not so extreme when they enter prison, the conditions they endure solidifies their violent views.

Of course. It's ALWAYS our fault

Isis did not exist before the Iraq war. It was invented becaus of the war.

And for the second time he was not locked up in gizmo. He was briefly detained by the army in Iraq and released in 2004.

There is dispute about the date. 2009 is more likely as boots on the ground place it there. Obama created ISIS by arming the 'moderate' Syrian rebels and thus putting weapons right in the hands of ISIS:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/05/19/new_documents_cia__state_dept_knew_weapons_were_moving_from_benghazi_libya_to_isis_in_syria_via_turkey.html

Haha, you are on the loony train. ISIS was initially created as Al Qaeda in Iraq. There is no dispute that this was years before Obama took office.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi is the animal who raped her - he spent time in Guantanamo. So much for that prison holding a bunch of sheepherders

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/14/isis-leader-see-you-in-new-york.html

http://abcnews.go.com/International/isis-leader-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-sexually-abused/story?id=33085923

Uh, hate to burst your bubble and the entire premise of your post, but he was not in Gitmo. He was detained in Iraq and released in 2004.

Forgive me. Obama shut down that camp in Iraq - he was not exactly a prisoner of another country - he was our prisoner of war.

In 2004?? Bush let this guy go, five years before Obama was inaugurated. What the hell kind of point are you making?