Anonymous
08/14/2015 21:53
Subject: Re:How much percentage of AAP kids go to TJ and how much of non AAP?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The fact that AAP kids seem to get into TJ in greater numbers has nothing to do with AAP. These kids were already off-the-charts bright and if AAP went away tomorrow, most of them would still get in.
And AAP tracks to compacted math/ Algebra in 7th, which doesn't hurt on the entrance exams.
My Gen Ed kids took Honors Algebra in 7th, so what?
Coming out of lots of ESs that's not possible/ very difficult because you have to pass advanced 7th grade math. Gen Ed kids usually get 6th, although I'm sure there are exceptions.
Many ESs now offer compacted math to kids not in AAP. In those schools, the kids who successfully complete compacted math finish ES at the same math level as AAP kids. AAP kids and Gen Ed kids who have completed compacted math must still test at certain benchmarks to take Hn Algebra 1 in 7th grade.
Many??? Besides GE students who backfill in LLIV centers, what are some of these?
All ES are supposed to be offering adv math but some don't even now...some have only been offering it in 6th, and some offer it from 3rd grade on. I'm talking about non-center, non-level 4 ES.
Anonymous
08/14/2015 20:44
Subject: Re:How much percentage of AAP kids go to TJ and how much of non AAP?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The fact that AAP kids seem to get into TJ in greater numbers has nothing to do with AAP. These kids were already off-the-charts bright and if AAP went away tomorrow, most of them would still get in.
And AAP tracks to compacted math/ Algebra in 7th, which doesn't hurt on the entrance exams.
My Gen Ed kids took Honors Algebra in 7th, so what?
Coming out of lots of ESs that's not possible/ very difficult because you have to pass advanced 7th grade math. Gen Ed kids usually get 6th, although I'm sure there are exceptions.
Many ESs now offer compacted math to kids not in AAP. In those schools, the kids who successfully complete compacted math finish ES at the same math level as AAP kids. AAP kids and Gen Ed kids who have completed compacted math must still test at certain benchmarks to take Hn Algebra 1 in 7th grade.
Many??? Besides GE students who backfill in LLIV centers, what are some of these?
So much fiction. It's not that difficult to take Algebra in 7th grade coming out of Gen Ed. My kid and many of his friends took 6th grade math at our local school. All they needed to do to get into Honors Algebra was get above a certain score on then Iowa test and pass the 7th grade SOL. It was not difficult for kids who were reasonably intelligent and good at math. AAP does not offer some secret elixir that makes kids math whizzes. Plenty of AAP students in my kid's 7th grade Algebra class weren't doing that well. Some even repeated Algebra.
You have to get the school to give the 7th grade SOL-- which I would imagine they would hate doing, because it could pull down pass advanced numbers. So again-- schools??
Anonymous
08/14/2015 20:40
Subject: Re:How much percentage of AAP kids go to TJ and how much of non AAP?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The fact that AAP kids seem to get into TJ in greater numbers has nothing to do with AAP. These kids were already off-the-charts bright and if AAP went away tomorrow, most of them would still get in.
And AAP tracks to compacted math/ Algebra in 7th, which doesn't hurt on the entrance exams.
My Gen Ed kids took Honors Algebra in 7th, so what?
Coming out of lots of ESs that's not possible/ very difficult because you have to pass advanced 7th grade math. Gen Ed kids usually get 6th, although I'm sure there are exceptions.
Many ESs now offer compacted math to kids not in AAP. In those schools, the kids who successfully complete compacted math finish ES at the same math level as AAP kids. AAP kids and Gen Ed kids who have completed compacted math must still test at certain benchmarks to take Hn Algebra 1 in 7th grade.
Many??? Besides GE students who backfill in LLIV centers, what are some of these?
So much fiction. It's not that difficult to take Algebra in 7th grade coming out of Gen Ed. My kid and many of his friends took 6th grade math at our local school. All they needed to do to get into Honors Algebra was get above a certain score on then Iowa test and pass the 7th grade SOL. It was not difficult for kids who were reasonably intelligent and good at math. AAP does not offer some secret elixir that makes kids math whizzes. Plenty of AAP students in my kid's 7th grade Algebra class weren't doing that well. Some even repeated Algebra.
Anonymous
08/14/2015 20:09
Subject: Re:How much percentage of AAP kids go to TJ and how much of non AAP?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The fact that AAP kids seem to get into TJ in greater numbers has nothing to do with AAP. These kids were already off-the-charts bright and if AAP went away tomorrow, most of them would still get in.
And AAP tracks to compacted math/ Algebra in 7th, which doesn't hurt on the entrance exams.
My Gen Ed kids took Honors Algebra in 7th, so what?
Coming out of lots of ESs that's not possible/ very difficult because you have to pass advanced 7th grade math. Gen Ed kids usually get 6th, although I'm sure there are exceptions.
Many ESs now offer compacted math to kids not in AAP. In those schools, the kids who successfully complete compacted math finish ES at the same math level as AAP kids. AAP kids and Gen Ed kids who have completed compacted math must still test at certain benchmarks to take Hn Algebra 1 in 7th grade.
Many??? Besides GE students who backfill in LLIV centers, what are some of these?
Anonymous
08/14/2015 20:03
Subject: Re:How much percentage of AAP kids go to TJ and how much of non AAP?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The fact that AAP kids seem to get into TJ in greater numbers has nothing to do with AAP. These kids were already off-the-charts bright and if AAP went away tomorrow, most of them would still get in.
And AAP tracks to compacted math/ Algebra in 7th, which doesn't hurt on the entrance exams.
My Gen Ed kids took Honors Algebra in 7th, so what?
Coming out of lots of ESs that's not possible/ very difficult because you have to pass advanced 7th grade math. Gen Ed kids usually get 6th, although I'm sure there are exceptions.
Many ESs now offer compacted math to kids not in AAP. In those schools, the kids who successfully complete compacted math finish ES at the same math level as AAP kids. AAP kids and Gen Ed kids who have completed compacted math must still test at certain benchmarks to take Hn Algebra 1 in 7th grade.
Which base schools now offer compacted math?
Anonymous
08/14/2015 12:54
Subject: Re:How much percentage of AAP kids go to TJ and how much of non AAP?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The fact that AAP kids seem to get into TJ in greater numbers has nothing to do with AAP. These kids were already off-the-charts bright and if AAP went away tomorrow, most of them would still get in.
And AAP tracks to compacted math/ Algebra in 7th, which doesn't hurt on the entrance exams.
My Gen Ed kids took Honors Algebra in 7th, so what?
Coming out of lots of ESs that's not possible/ very difficult because you have to pass advanced 7th grade math. Gen Ed kids usually get 6th, although I'm sure there are exceptions.
Many ESs now offer compacted math to kids not in AAP. In those schools, the kids who successfully complete compacted math finish ES at the same math level as AAP kids. AAP kids and Gen Ed kids who have completed compacted math must still test at certain benchmarks to take Hn Algebra 1 in 7th grade.
Anonymous
08/14/2015 12:05
Subject: Re:How much percentage of AAP kids go to TJ and how much of non AAP?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The fact that AAP kids seem to get into TJ in greater numbers has nothing to do with AAP. These kids were already off-the-charts bright and if AAP went away tomorrow, most of them would still get in.
And AAP tracks to compacted math/ Algebra in 7th, which doesn't hurt on the entrance exams.
My Gen Ed kids took Honors Algebra in 7th, so what?
Coming out of lots of ESs that's not possible/ very difficult because you have to pass advanced 7th grade math. Gen Ed kids usually get 6th, although I'm sure there are exceptions.
Anonymous
08/14/2015 12:01
Subject: Re:How much percentage of AAP kids go to TJ and how much of non AAP?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The fact that AAP kids seem to get into TJ in greater numbers has nothing to do with AAP. These kids were already off-the-charts bright and if AAP went away tomorrow, most of them would still get in.
And AAP tracks to compacted math/ Algebra in 7th, which doesn't hurt on the entrance exams.
My Gen Ed kids took Honors Algebra in 7th, so what?
Anonymous
08/14/2015 11:16
Subject: Re:How much percentage of AAP kids go to TJ and how much of non AAP?
Anonymous wrote:The fact that AAP kids seem to get into TJ in greater numbers has nothing to do with AAP. These kids were already off-the-charts bright and if AAP went away tomorrow, most of them would still get in.
And AAP tracks to compacted math/ Algebra in 7th, which doesn't hurt on the entrance exams.
Anonymous
08/14/2015 11:13
Subject: Re:How much percentage of AAP kids go to TJ and how much of non AAP?
The fact that AAP kids seem to get into TJ in greater numbers has nothing to do with AAP. These kids were already off-the-charts bright and if AAP went away tomorrow, most of them would still get in.
Anonymous
08/14/2015 09:48
Subject: Re:How much percentage of AAP kids go to TJ and how much of non AAP?
Anonymous wrote:My Son just got admission to TJ. We know lot of kids who are in TJ and who have finished TJ and working etc. Here is my take on it.
TJ is a fantastic school with lot of opportunities to do Research and technology which is not available in other schools. It has lot to offer. Student should be intelligent and very hard working in order to enjoy at TJ. They have lot of sports activities also. It is the No.1 STEM school in the Nation for a reason. But lot of parents wants kids to join the school and they don't want kids to work hard. You can't have both. You cannot join the best school without working hard. You should join TJ because of what facilities it offers to do research, courses it offers that is not available in other schools and the friends you make there. Once you learn all the things it offers you will be successful in life no matter what college you go and you will get a fantastic job. I have seen lot of kids out of TJ getting scholarships to colleges and doing really really well after college.
Tell that to the crazy girl who lied about getting accepted to Stanford and Harvard, the former model/TJ grad who went to Stanford and is now best known for bringing questionable sexual assault charges against a former boyfriend
http://www.stanforddaily.com/2015/01/28/palantir-co-founder-joe-lonsdale-04-accused-of-sexual-assaulting-then-stanford-student/ and the two kids I know who were suspended during their freshman year of college for honors violations.
No high school guarantees success. Life is a long and challenging journey wherever you go.
Anonymous
08/14/2015 08:47
Subject: Re:How much percentage of AAP kids go to TJ and how much of non AAP?
Anonymous wrote:
FCPS counts students taking all honors classes as Advanced Academics - Level IV, even though they are not in a Level IV AAP Center.
True.
There are also a few middle schools with "Local Level IV" services, so they are "Level IV-eligible" students who are not at an AAP center.
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Regarding an earlier question about why AAP students wouldn't apply to TJ, my best answer would be that TJ is not appropriate for everyone. TJ is a great school, but so are many of the students' base schools. If TJ is "right" for them, that's great, but if it isn't, that's fine, too!
Anonymous
08/14/2015 08:44
Subject: How much percentage of AAP kids go to TJ and how much of non AAP?
Wouldn't it make more sense to use the number of kids in 5th or 6th grade AAP Centers or Level 4 as the group of students who are "AAP?"
That way you are counting only those kids who actually received the AAP curriculum (whatever that is, as compared to the gen. ed curriculum).
That way you are counting only those kids who actually received the AAP curriculum (whatever that is, as compared to the gen. ed curriculum).
Anonymous
08/14/2015 08:36
Subject: Re:How much percentage of AAP kids go to TJ and how much of non AAP?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Op here-Actually I want statistics about how much percentage of AAP kids get into TJ not how much percentage of TJ students are from AAP
There are about 3,000 8th graders in the AAP program (FCPS). 70% of 480 = 336. About 336 AAP students from about 3,000 total AAP 8th graders go on to TJ.
Where are you seeing 3000 8th graders in AAP? FCPS dashboard lists 1963 students in AAP in 8th grade.
FCPS does not consistently account for Level IV AAP students.
If you look at the FCPS School Profile for a middle school without a Level IV AAP Center, for example, and select the Demographics tab, you will see enrollment numbers for General Education, Advanced Academics - Level IV, Middle Advanced Academics - Levels I,II,III, English Language Services, and Special Education Services.
FCPS counts students taking all honors classes as Advanced Academics - Level IV, even though they are not in a Level IV AAP Center.
Anonymous
08/13/2015 23:43
Subject: Re:How much percentage of AAP kids go to TJ and how much of non AAP?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Op here-Actually I want statistics about how much percentage of AAP kids get into TJ not how much percentage of TJ students are from AAP
There are about 3,000 8th graders in the AAP program (FCPS). 70% of 480 = 336. About 336 AAP students from about 3,000 total AAP 8th graders go on to TJ.
Where are you seeing 3000 8th graders in AAP? FCPS dashboard lists 1963 students in AAP in 8th grade.