Anonymous wrote:Whoa! Over the top response. OP was under the impression that the hijab was worn to essentailly hide oneself. Thus, she is confused by an attention-getting one and is wondering if hijab is about something else.

Answer--it is about something else. It is about covering what the Quran refers to as "zeinat" or beautiful things. It is not really clear what this means, but some interpret it to mean your hair, body, arms and legs. Faces, hands, and feet are okay (but the more extreme versions in Islam would say those need to be covered too).

As long as you cover those things, your dress can be as sober or as garish as you wish, though, again, the more extreme forms of Islam would have every piece of clothing be black, or, as in Afghanistan, white or blue.

What the hijab is designed to cover can be compared to modesty codes in the West, but we are fine with more being uncovered. We also tend to have different standards for different venues--church and office are one thing, weekend wear another, and beach and resort yet another. Traditional Muslims, however, tend to employ the same modesty standards everywhere. That said, many Muslim women are perfectly fine with the Western modesty code.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not muslim however I believe it has to do with their hair, as it does in some Jewish sects.


I am catholic and I veil, it has everything to do with humility before the presence of God and nothing to do with modesty, so maybe it is a bit of that too, since the "big 3" religions are so intertwined.

Great question, I'll be interested in learning more!

Why? That went out with Vatican II

It did not go "out" it became a choice. I choose too, just like I choose daily mass and pre vii fasting rules.

Actually, veiling in the Catholic church has made a big comeback. Go google it. Three women were veiled at a recent Catholic funeral Mass I attended (not Opus Dei).

I am a practicing Catholic and I find this both super weird and super depressing. Just for reference sake, I come from a family where daily mass and rosary are common; priests in the family; close family friends who are nuns; Catholic educators (both CCD teachers and parochial school administrators) in the family. Even my grandmother that was born in the 19th century and prayed almost constantly was glad to ditch the hat/veil.
This is like the people that insist on Latin mass....it's going backward, not forward.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not muslim however I believe it has to do with their hair, as it does in some Jewish sects.


I am catholic and I veil, it has everything to do with humility before the presence of God and nothing to do with modesty, so maybe it is a bit of that too, since the "big 3" religions are so intertwined.

Great question, I'll be interested in learning more!

Why? That went out with Vatican II

It did not go "out" it became a choice. I choose too, just like I choose daily mass and pre vii fasting rules.

Actually, veiling in the Catholic church has made a big comeback. Go google it. Three women were veiled at a recent Catholic funeral Mass I attended (not Opus Dei).

I am a practicing Catholic and I find this both super weird and super depressing. Just for reference sake, I come from a family where daily mass and rosary are common; priests in the family; close family friends who are nuns; Catholic educators (both CCD teachers and parochial school administrators) in the family. Even my grandmother that was born in the 19th century and prayed almost constantly was glad to ditch the hat/veil.
This is like the people that insist on Latin mass....it's going backward, not forward.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not muslim however I believe it has to do with their hair, as it does in some Jewish sects.


I am catholic and I veil, it has everything to do with humility before the presence of God and nothing to do with modesty, so maybe it is a bit of that too, since the "big 3" religions are so intertwined.

Great question, I'll be interested in learning more!

Why? That went out with Vatican II

It did not go "out" it became a choice. I choose too, just like I choose daily mass and pre vii fasting rules.

Actually, veiling in the Catholic church has made a big comeback. Go google it. Three women were veiled at a recent Catholic funeral Mass I attended (not Opus Dei).

I am a practicing Catholic and I find this both super weird and super depressing. Just for reference sake, I come from a family where daily mass and rosary are common; priests in the family; close family friends who are nuns; Catholic educators (both CCD teachers and parochial school administrators) in the family. Even my grandmother that was born in the 19th century and prayed almost constantly was glad to ditch the hat/veil.
This is like the people that insist on Latin mass....it's going backward, not forward.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not muslim however I believe it has to do with their hair, as it does in some Jewish sects.


I am catholic and I veil, it has everything to do with humility before the presence of God and nothing to do with modesty, so maybe it is a bit of that too, since the "big 3" religions are so intertwined.

Great question, I'll be interested in learning more!

Why? That went out with Vatican II

It did not go "out" it became a choice. I choose too, just like I choose daily mass and pre vii fasting rules.

Actually, veiling in the Catholic church has made a big comeback. Go google it. Three women were veiled at a recent Catholic funeral Mass I attended (not Opus Dei).

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Anonymous wrote:Not OP but I do have a question in case anyone knows - in Saudi Arabia the women wear black and in Iran the women wear blue. Why don't women in Saudi Arabia wear blue? Wouldn't in be cooler? Is the color dictated by the government?

Do you mean in Afghanistan?

In Saudi, Saudi women must wear black niquab (only eyes showing). Foreign women can wear any type of headscarf, but they also risk harassment if dressed a lot differently.

In Iran, women are required to wear headscarves, but not of a certain color. You often see much more hair peeking out in Iran, too.

In Afghanistan, women were required to wear a burqa under the Taliban, and they are generally blue. It wards off the evil eye. Now you will see women wearing regular head scarves, but many still wear the burqa for safety.

Is there any reason why a woman would wear the head to toe, face covered, heavy black fabric Saudi outfit here in the US during a hot humid summer day?

Do you think it is a religious thing at this point or a family/father/husband control thing?

I saw two separate young women out like this during the heat wave and it just made me want to cry for them.

I don't feel that way at all about the hajib, but the full coverage with only a tiny rectangle of eyes showing is so very different and repressive.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not muslim however I believe it has to do with their hair, as it does in some Jewish sects.


I am catholic and I veil, it has everything to do with humility before the presence of God and nothing to do with modesty, so maybe it is a bit of that too, since the "big 3" religions are so intertwined.

Great question, I'll be interested in learning more!

Why? That went out with Vatican II

It did not go "out" it became a choice. I choose too, just like I choose daily mass and pre vii fasting rules.

Are you Opus Dei?

Nope.

But you hate modern Catholics and Protestants. So really, no one cares what you do.

Not PP, but I'm a liberal Catholic and I have been considering veiling in church. I think it's a beautiful tradition.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not muslim however I believe it has to do with their hair, as it does in some Jewish sects.


I am catholic and I veil, it has everything to do with humility before the presence of God and nothing to do with modesty, so maybe it is a bit of that too, since the "big 3" religions are so intertwined.

Great question, I'll be interested in learning more!

Why? That went out with Vatican II

It did not go "out" it became a choice. I choose too, just like I choose daily mass and pre vii fasting rules.

Are you Opus Dei?

Nope.

But you hate modern Catholics and Protestants. So really, no one cares what you do.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not muslim however I believe it has to do with their hair, as it does in some Jewish sects.


I am catholic and I veil, it has everything to do with humility before the presence of God and nothing to do with modesty, so maybe it is a bit of that too, since the "big 3" religions are so intertwined.

Great question, I'll be interested in learning more!

Why? That went out with Vatican II

It did not go "out" it became a choice. I choose too, just like I choose daily mass and pre vii fasting rules.

Are you Opus Dei?

Nope.

But you hate modern Catholics and Protestants. So really, no one cares what you do.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not muslim however I believe it has to do with their hair, as it does in some Jewish sects.


I am catholic and I veil, it has everything to do with humility before the presence of God and nothing to do with modesty, so maybe it is a bit of that too, since the "big 3" religions are so intertwined.

Great question, I'll be interested in learning more!

Why? That went out with Vatican II

It did not go "out" it became a choice. I choose too, just like I choose daily mass and pre vii fasting rules.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not muslim however I believe it has to do with their hair, as it does in some Jewish sects.


I am catholic and I veil, it has everything to do with humility before the presence of God and nothing to do with modesty, so maybe it is a bit of that too, since the "big 3" religions are so intertwined.

Great question, I'll be interested in learning more!

Why? That went out with Vatican II

It did not go "out" it became a choice. I choose too, just like I choose daily mass and pre vii fasting rules.

Are you Opus Dei?

Nope.

But you hate modern Catholics and Protestants. So really, no one cares what you do.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not muslim however I believe it has to do with their hair, as it does in some Jewish sects.


I am catholic and I veil, it has everything to do with humility before the presence of God and nothing to do with modesty, so maybe it is a bit of that too, since the "big 3" religions are so intertwined.

Great question, I'll be interested in learning more!

Why? That went out with Vatican II

It did not go "out" it became a choice. I choose too, just like I choose daily mass and pre vii fasting rules.

Are you Opus Dei?

Nope.

But you hate modern Catholics and Protestants. So really, no one cares what you do.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not muslim however I believe it has to do with their hair, as it does in some Jewish sects.


I am catholic and I veil, it has everything to do with humility before the presence of God and nothing to do with modesty, so maybe it is a bit of that too, since the "big 3" religions are so intertwined.

Great question, I'll be interested in learning more!

Why? That went out with Vatican II

It did not go "out" it became a choice. I choose too, just like I choose daily mass and pre vii fasting rules.

Are you Opus Dei?

Nope.